New Audeze LCD3
Aug 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM Post #8,116 of 11,521
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Hell yeah. For example I prefer Infected Mushrooms with the SR007s. It doesn't beat the LCD-3s in overall bass quality or quantity, those still win the round, but it's damn close. Closer than any other headphone I've heard to the LCD-3s.  The bass signature is more towards the HD800s, but with stronger impact. Sort of how I wish the HD800s were to begin with, without that famous rolloff below 100hz. :)  It's the transparency, clarity and soundstage presentation that puts the SR007s above the LCD3-s. Whenever I switch back to the LCD-3s they feel a bit cramped in and muddy. This is with the exact same amp, cause my setup allows that, but it's fair ground for all, including speakers.
 
Mentioning speakers my horns are the soundstaging presentation checkpoint, nothing touches that, not even the HD800s. Unfortunately Audeze have big improvments to make here. LCD-4s wishlist anyone?

While I've gained a new respect for the SR-007MKI after hearing it finally on my (now sold) KGSS, the LCD-3s are still very competitive. Not sure if the Taboo is holding you back? Frank I owned both revisions of the Taboo (II and III) and hasn't been overly impressed with them an his LCD-2s? On a GS-X MKII, the LCD-3s really, really sound tight!
 
Also, I've had my SR-009s since last September and they are my favourite goto headphone. I think you'll love them! The LCD-3s are #2 goto headphone.
 
Aug 20, 2013 at 10:27 PM Post #8,117 of 11,521
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Got an RMA# today.  They must be really busy because this took 2 business days.
 
How did you pack yours up?  The form says not to use the wooden box.  So I am thinking of using my travel box.  Seems like the best way to ensure they aren't damaged during shipping. 

I took mine to my local UPS store and had them wrap it up....they are very good
 
Aug 20, 2013 at 10:27 PM Post #8,118 of 11,521
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Got an RMA# today.  They must be really busy because this took 2 business days.
 
How did you pack yours up?  The form says not to use the wooden box.  So I am thinking of using my travel box.  Seems like the best way to ensure they aren't damaged during shipping. 

I took mine to my local UPS store and had them wrap it up....they are very good
 
Aug 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM Post #8,120 of 11,521
I own a LCD3, and although I like the sound on some recordings, my preference is actually the HD800. So I've invested $2000 on a pair cans I rarely use. Anyone out there interested in buying these from me? They are in mint condition only several months old. I purchased them new and they are under the full factory warranty. Anyone seriously interested send me a private message. Serious buyers only.
 
Aug 20, 2013 at 10:49 PM Post #8,121 of 11,521
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I had recently tried the below combo at a show: 009+WES, HE6+EF6, LCD3+BHA1 and the difference is quite apparent - 009+WES win by a clear margin except bass, followed by LCD3+BHA1, which I like considerably more than HE6+EF6.

Not sure if I m biased towards the LCD3 as a owner, I do feel its performance is still limited by the BHA1 and should be very close to the 009+sr727 or 007 if the LCD3 is paired with say the HPA21. I was rather tempted to go with 009+007 combo before the show but decided maybe I can get the HPA21 to see how much further it can take the LCD3.

HE6+EF6 is also very nice especially for its price. Really transparent and with good timbre and I look forward to try their next iteration's flagship.

 
At this time I can probably get one (2 max) serious rig going. Probably best to leave the Stax out until everything else is good enough. Do you guys find stuff like NAD M51 to be enough for Stax or need to go higher. For example, with LCD-3's, I can't use certain DAC's otherwise it sounds bad or unnatural.
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 2:43 AM Post #8,122 of 11,521
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Yeah, I should have probably skipped the last meet. 
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 I was impressed by a few Stax headphones in really good rigs and I strived ( and still am) to get there. I am happy where I got to at the moment with more to come in the next months. That's also the bummer. :) (P.S.: The only other dynamic headphones that impressed me were the HE-6s. Maybe someday I will rig them up on a high-end speaker amp).
 
My last surviving dynamic headphones are the LCD-3s at the moment, so they have won the rounds for me. I ultimately found that you cant have a single dynamic configuration that is optimal with both the HD800s and the LCD-3s at the same time. It cannot happen.

 
Whoa - why you say that?  The GS-X mk2 + PWD mk2 is one rig that will fit both pretty damn well.  What rigs are you talking about that will not work well with both?
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 2:46 AM Post #8,123 of 11,521
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At this time I can probably get one (2 max) serious rig going. Probably best to leave the Stax out until everything else is good enough. Do you guys find stuff like NAD M51 to be enough for Stax or need to go higher. For example, with LCD-3's, I can't use certain DAC's otherwise it sounds bad or unnatural.

 
The NAD M51 is a 2K DAC.  What other DACs are you talking about that you can't use with the LCD-3?  
 
Once you get in the plus 2K DAC range they all will be very competitive.  Yes the NAD M51 is a pretty good DAC.
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 3:24 AM Post #8,124 of 11,521
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The NAD M51 is a 2K DAC.  What other DACs are you talking about that you can't use with the LCD-3?  
 
Once you get in the plus 2K DAC range they all will be very competitive.  Yes the NAD M51 is a pretty good DAC.

 
Stuff like those Fiio dacs. With HE-500 and even LCD-2, it was okay when I had to depending on movability. Although with LCD-3, the E10 is just crap.
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 4:30 AM Post #8,126 of 11,521
Got an RMA# today.  They must be really busy because this took 2 business days.

How did you pack yours up?  The form says not to use the wooden box.  So I am thinking of using my travel box.  Seems like the best way to ensure they aren't damaged during shipping. 



I sent mine across the pond in the plastic travel case plus a bit of bubble wrap inside to stop them from moving around, no cables just the phones. Packed it in a small box.
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 5:39 AM Post #8,127 of 11,521
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Anyone out there interested in buying these from me? They are in mint condition only several months old. I purchased them new and they are under the full factory warranty. Anyone seriously interested send me a private message. Serious buyers only.

 
Post in the for sale forum.  Expect to get about $1600 shipped after bartering.
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 5:45 AM Post #8,128 of 11,521
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While I've gained a new respect for the SR-007MKI after hearing it finally on my (now sold) KGSS, the LCD-3s are still very competitive. Not sure if the Taboo is holding you back? Frank I owned both revisions of the Taboo (II and III) and hasn't been overly impressed with them an his LCD-2s? On a GS-X MKII, the LCD-3s really, really sound tight!
 
Also, I've had my SR-009s since last September and they are my favourite goto headphone. I think you'll love them! The LCD-3s are #2 goto headphone.

 
This is only in comparison with the SR007s. The LCD-3s on the Taboo I felt reached their potential compared with the Burson Conductor, and I felt the LCD-3s scaled a lot, especially balanced cabled. It's a fantastic amp, also considering the price, fast, detailed, transparent and with impact and I have some of the best tubes for it ever made, so I know it's well tuned. However that is not the point and I am sure there are also better amps than the Taboo in the high-end. What this is, is a fantastic equal ground to compare dynamics, electrostats and speakers with the same amplifier source and cables. And in the same way the SR007s are probably much better on dedicated electrostats like the BHSE etc etc. 
 
My choice has been made and  I am selling the LCD-3s. They are still the best dynamic headphones to my preference (not technically) edging out the HD800s. Ultimately I don't feel like investing any further into a dynamic rig, because starting with the GS-X MK2s and above that is electrostats price territory. I know many folks have multiple rigs, but for me once I have found something "better" all the rest starts gathering dust. And while it is fully expected the SR009s are better, what I was not expecting was for the SR007s MKI to slot in ahead of the LCD-3s. But that's how it is for me.
 
 
Whoa - why you say that?  The GS-X mk2 + PWD mk2 is one rig that will fit both pretty damn well.  What rigs are you talking about that will not work well with both?
 


 
When I said optimal, I didn't mean pretty damn well. With that I agree. I meant optimal as in where I feel that one system is optimised as good as it can be for synergy with one pair of headphones. Which can't happen with both the LCD-3s and HD800s at the same time because they are too diferent sounding from each other. Irregardless of the actual components. You can reach a damn fine middle ground, but that's what it is.
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 6:57 AM Post #8,129 of 11,521
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When I said optimal, I didn't mean pretty damn well. With that I agree. I meant optimal as in where I feel that one system is optimised as good as it can be for synergy with one pair of headphones. Which can't happen with both the LCD-3s and HD800s at the same time because they are too diferent sounding from each other. Irregardless of the actual components. You can reach a damn fine middle ground, but that's what it is.

 
With this is still disagree.  A system or audio chain that we're talking about in this case is the DAC and the amp.  Let me know if I'm correct here.  You're telling me there's no way a great DAC and a great amp (SS or Tube) can't be paird together and this same pairing will not be good for both the LCD-3 and the HD-800?  If I understand this correctly I say that's Hog wash.  
 
Aug 21, 2013 at 7:00 AM Post #8,130 of 11,521
No that is not what I am saying.
 

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