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post #31 of 6726

On the subject of neutrality - I always thought that the HD650 was more neutral than the LCD2s.  To expand further, in that more random tracks sound tonally correct on the HD650 than LCD2 to me.  But I suspected in the past that its hard to gauge without a visual reference to know the physical distance and intention.

 

I was watching movies again late at night, which I don't normally do, or even use headphones for movies in general, but was able due to a recent back injury that has put me out of work temporarily.  I came to the absolute conclusion that my R1 LCD2s are actually overall more neutral to me than all my other cans for watching movies.  I love movies - good ones and hold the highest rentals by far in my DVD store.

 

I find the human dialogue with visual distance cues makes pointing flaws in tonal balance so much and easier than music without visual reference as I don't always know what the intended effect is.  I explored this in a thread I started in my early days of headfi here, in which I criticised the K701 and eventually settled on the HD650 because it was much better to me.

 

So continuing from there I use the HD650, but quickly realise that the male voices were too chesty even when the characters were portrayed at distance - intimate when it shouldn't be, a bump at approx mid bass.  It started to annoy me - and I thought I needed something between HD650 and K701, and the HD600 came to mind.  So I will purchase a HD600 for movie watching.

 

Just for giggles I tried the LCD2s - because they are too heavy for movies for me.  But WOW.  I have the R1s and I don't think they are perfectly neutral, but they come closer than anything else I have ever tried.  The HD650 midbass boost in male voice were corrected - still not perfect, but more able to sustain an illusion of making me feel like I am in the movie.  If I had to EQ - something along the lines of Ham Sandwiches posts previous would suffice, just a touch more in the upper ranges, but it wasn't absolutely necessary.

 

The only problem is, I can't buy a HD600, even if they are more tonally perfect for movies, because if driver speed does such wonders for instrument definition, so that I can't really go back - the affect for movie audio is no less profound and at least equally as astonishing!

 

So many times when sub bass kicks in - I freak the hell out that a subwoofer has been left on - except I sold my subwoofer ages ago, and they were never that good!  Yes trucks actually sound like trucks, industrial equipment sound exactly as such - like I have never heard them recreated so accurately.  They never cease to amaze me these LCD2s, and I only have the R1, I need these R2s whenever my finances recoup.

 

 

post #32 of 6726
Yes the LCD-2 is awesome with movies ! The sound is "full" and realist though I miss the feeling of being very close to dialogues and action like K271 or the colored sound of D2000 that sound like a good home theater setup, BTW I wait until mine is being repaired to watch movies again.
Edited by Omega17TheTrue - 10/12/11 at 4:17am
post #33 of 6726
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Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich View Post

I've been playing with EQ, in part to boost the treble.  I'm pretty certain I haven't turned my LCD-2 rev2 into an HE500.  biggrin.gif

 

I've only had my LCD-2 for less than two weeks.  I'm still very much in exploratory mode.  Playing around trying to learn what makes it do music for me.  I've discovered that a little bump at around 3 kHz really helps.  My LCD-2 sounds a little dull there and a little bump at 3 kHz is just what is needed.  Ah, violins and classical music sounds better now.  Then I decided to experiment with adding some treble to that.  So I did a shelf EQ that would cover the 3 kHz boost along with the treble.  This is what I've got right now:

 

 

1cae5dd6_LCD-2_eq.jpeg

 

Ah, much better.  3 kHz boost and treble.  An LCD-2 with midrange presence and treble that I like.  :)

 

I am using an Asgard amp for now.  I know it's not doing the best job for the LCD-2.  I've compared the LCD-2 in other amps at meets and noticed the Asgard is one that more often than not leaves me with a feeling of "where'd the treble go?".  While some better amps for the LCD-2 don't make me feel the treble is missing so much. When I tried a Liquid Fire amp the treble was pretty darn there and soundstage was bigger and better as well.  So when I get a better amp my EQ preference might change.  I still see myself using a 3 kHz boost though even if I do dial down the treble later.

 

Right now I really like it with the shelf EQ.  Classical symphonies sound much better.  With no EQ the classical was a bit dull.  With the EQ the classical is "ah! very nice".  Rock music also benefits with the shelf EQ.  It's all good.  I like.  :)



Asgard is definitely a warm-sounding amp but nevertheless, your EQ setting is intriguing. What DAC you're using BTW? 

 

I will see if I can replicate this for testing tonight. 

post #34 of 6726

They've had my headphones almost two days here after 6 days shipping on their dime.  No confirmation like "we received your headphones and will be working to resolve your issue" etc.  Nada.

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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

 Music Direct sent me the wrong Shunyata power cord.  I called them and they sent a new one out immediately 2 day delivery plus emailed me the return pre-paid shipping slip.

 


Music Direct sent me the wrong Shunyata cord also.  I called them and it was 5 days for the cable to get back to them, they wouldn't send out a new one until they got the wrong one back, and another 4 days for the new one to arrive.  All in all 3 weeks between the 2 cables.  I was not happy. Plus I had to go way out of my way to return the cable because my printer was not working and the workers at 2 Fedex outlets had no clue how to access the Fedex site if you can believe that. I couldn't.  One worker wanted me to drive 12 miles to my home and email him the email Music Direct sent me with the Fedex label and then drive another 12 miles back with the cable because he said I couldn't leave the cable with them. Finally I got a supervisor to access the site.

 


Edited by WarriorAnt - 10/13/11 at 8:51am
post #36 of 6726

I've ordered and received two from Music Direct.  Thanks to WA for the heads up and so I always write " C13: Standard IEC type connector, also called 15Amp".  No issues.
 

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Originally Posted by WarriorAnt View Post

Music Direct sent me the wrong Shunyata cord also.  I called them and it was 5 days for the cable to get back to them, they wouldn't send out a new one until they got the wrong one back, and another 4 days for the new one to arrive.  All in all 3 weeks between the 2 cables.  I was not happy. Plus I has to go way out of my way to return the cable because my printer was not working and the workers at 2 FeEx outlets had no clue how to access the Fedex site if you can believe that. I couldn't.  One worker wanted me to drive 12 miles to my home and email him the email Music Direct sent me with the Fedex label and then drive another 12 miles back with the cable because he said I couldn't leave the cable with them. Finally I got a supervisor to access the site.

post #37 of 6726

Glad to see another LCD-2 thread pop up.  I stopped following the other thread a while ago because for various reasons.  

Sad to see rev2 drivers going out.  

Will be interesting to see the speakers coming from Audeze.

 

post #38 of 6726
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They've had my headphones almost two days here after 6 days shipping on their dime.  No confirmation like "we received your headphones and will be working to resolve your issue" etc.  Nada.


Funny because its the exact same for me ! I send it the 5 and they receiveid it the 11 ! They must be busy with Canjam,new speakers,mic and headphone...
post #39 of 6726

That's what I'm afraid of.  It could be another week until they even look at yours and my headphones.  What happened to yours?  Failed driver?

 

Plus they're introducing a new headphone at CanJam and Speakers at RMAF.  I thought their whole operation was in Nevada with the office.  They must manufacture or just repair in California?

post #40 of 6726

Just spoke w/Audeze.  My headphones will be looked at on Monday.

 

I did ask about the new Audeze phones coming out.  He said the press release should be out now or within the half hour.  They will be more expensive than the LCD2's and different.  Oooooooooooo..................

post #41 of 6726
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That's what I'm afraid of.  It could be another week until they even look at yours and my headphones.  What happened to yours?  Failed driver?>


Yes, failed right driver on Rev 1 after exactly 6 months of good use, I now use my K601 as a replacement, such a bad weird sound in comparison...
post #42 of 6726

LCD-3 is going to be at the can jam.  I'm not sure how reliable this link is but here goes.

 

http://www.shootonline.com/go/index.php?name=Release&op=view&id=rs-web3-5508152-1318526366-2

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post #44 of 6726

hot diggity dam.  I'm going to guess 1600 dollars.  redface.gif

post #45 of 6726
WOW LCD-3 ! very exiting ! I know what I want for Christmas. o2smile.gif
Edited by Omega17TheTrue - 10/13/11 at 12:59pm
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