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Jan 7, 2012 at 2:30 AM Post #2,507 of 3,746


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There is a common pattern here... treble bass treble bass treble bass treble bass
 



They can pair very nicely when you have the right source. Lots of treble an bass leads to the V sound. But if you have a source that accentuates the mid range its audio nirvana.
 
Jan 7, 2012 at 2:51 AM Post #2,509 of 3,746
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haha just thought of that scene in total recall... but i guess this means i like head exploding treble as well... oh dear


Speaking of Total Recall...
 

 
 
Jan 7, 2012 at 3:05 AM Post #2,510 of 3,746
The possible master plan for 2012 in IEM's
 
UE TriFi 10 (currently working on it)
Sony MDR EX 1000 (maybe, I might just decide to be happy with my 600's and call it a day)
Sony XBA 3/4 (not sure which one yet)
JVC Victor FX700 (I really am curious about these)
Westone 4R (if the price ever comes down)
 
On a side note I'll be getting a mobile amp/DAC in the very near future. I've decided on the Leckerton UHA-4 Slimline. For me it was a toss up between the Pico Slim and the UHA-4. The TTVJ Slim from what I gleamed from other owners they didn't think the DAC section was all that great and the Arrow 4G is plagued by huge wait times and very poor customer service so those two were thrown out as possibilities. The iBasso D0 not enough people seem to know enough about it so I decided to not go there. Pity the ultra small form factor would have been perfect.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jan 7, 2012 at 3:40 AM Post #2,511 of 3,746

 
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Haha James.
 
I will make sure I listen to the FI-BA-SS, that one is on my list and I have high hopes for it even if I've only heard one Final Audio so far and it was just so~so from my perspective (FI-BA-SB), I was quite enjoying it though and it actually sounded quite similiar to how I expected thanks to Shigzeo's review.
 
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From what I can see the AKG K3003 is using a dynamic bass driver and TWFK, it doesn't say "Made in Austria balanced-armature" like Sony's latest, or go into much technical depth, the prices, 1000 here and 1000 there, look random, I'd like to be corrected why it's so expensive but until then or until I hear it it just looks like the way AKG retailed the K701 in Japan to me.

 
Be sure to bring your own tips when you listen to the FI-BA-SS. Sony hybrids will do (preferably with half of the their stem cut off). The FADs stock tips don't do the FI-BA-SS justice.
 
As for the K3003, I 've posted this before (but it's hard to stay afloat in this thread), those BAs may look like TWFKs, but they don't sound like them. So far I've heard three TWFK based IEMs, the CK10, B2 and UE700 and they all had certain characteristics in common, especially in treble. The K3003's treble doesn't follow that pattern, but of course it's possible that they use some custom tuned TWFKs that just happen to sound different.
 
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I second james' opinion that the SS is by far the the best FAD out. The SB isn't nearly as impressive; I even found it a bit boomy and unrefined next to the SS. However, the SS, like the stasi it's (not quite) named after, is pretty ruthless with the music. I like that quality to my headphones, though, and you seem not to mind.

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Well, for the price, the SB isn't a bad choice, and it's actually the one FAD product that deviates significantly from their overall sound. All of their other IEMs share a common sound, and the SB is sort of the black gold sheep of the group. They sell the SB at the same price as the A1/SC here, and it's definitely better than them. The A1/SC feels like a wannabe SS to me. Actually, now that I think about it, I might be the only person here (besides maybe Takoyaki) that has listened to the entire FAD line (except their ridiculous $5000 headphones --- I had a chance to do so as well, since the founder of FAD brought the prototype with him during their launch in Taiwan, but missed it).

 
Great posts! The SS are definitely raw and ruthless and I cannot imagine having them as my only IEMs. They'd probably render 70% of my music collection obsolete because of subpar recording quality, lol. Something that's rarely mentioned is that they have extremely high sensitivity, meaning your source needs to be as black as possible, but their sensitivity not only allows them go very loud with quiet classical recordings, but they're also unparalleled in portraying those subtle shifts in volume (the gradual swelling of orchestra or chorus) that make classical music so exciting.
 
For those interested in what I'm talking about, please listen to the first 4 minutes of this piece (not the best quality, but sufficient to get the idea):
 

 
There's no other phone I've heard that renders this one as subtle and beautiful as the FI-BA-SS, the hushed voices at the beginning and the subsequent building up of excitement.
If I ever decide to go for a high-end fullsized headphone, I want the one that does this first 4 minutes best.
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As for the SB vs. A1/SC, I agree the latter are kinda like wannabe SS, but ultimately less colored than the SBs.
 
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FAD was here for a meet/greet and Q&A session at the official retailer here, X-Wind (now part of Jaben). Final Audio Taiwan has pictures on their Facebook page. There used to be video, but I don't know where it went. I think they were getting ready for the Tokyo headphone festival at the same time, so they took their just finished headphone along to show off.


Oh, I'd love to meet these FAD people sometime and ask them certain questions, for instance why they devaluate their $1000+ SS flagship with subpar stock tips. But I've been told such behaviour is regarded as rude and those folks aren't very open to suggestions.
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Really? Coming from DSLRs, I think the entire NEX line is terrible...


X2, even not coming from DSLRs.
 
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FX500 is much more aggressive on the treble, so I'd be careful if I were you on that one. FX700 is more refined with a bit more mid bass added for a more fun sound. FX500 has more sub bass. Also FX700 can go to higher volumes without distorting while the FX500 drivers can't handle it and distort. I know you like to do crazy **** like that Kiteki :wink:.


Spot-on, my friend.
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Jan 7, 2012 at 4:04 AM Post #2,512 of 3,746
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Great posts! The SS are definitely raw and ruthless and I cannot imagine having them as my only IEMs. They'd probably render 70% of my music collection obsolete because of subpar recording quality, lol. Something that's rarely mentioned is that they have extremely high sensitivity, meaning your source needs to be as black as possible, but their sensitivity not only allows them go very loud with quiet classical recordings, but they're also unparalleled in portraying those subtle shifts in volume (the gradual swelling of orchestra or chorus) that make classical music so exciting.

 
..thus making them the only universal IEM I still want to try. You are not making the task of holding on to my wallet easy
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PS: And catching up on this thread requires more than half the time I spend on head-fi....
 
Jan 7, 2012 at 4:24 AM Post #2,513 of 3,746
haha... the price (AKG K3003 aside, don't want to get into that one before I've heard it; seems to make peoples' tempers flare around here) is pretty ridiculous, though.
 
Even though i love it, i can't ever imagine buying it (for the time being). it's a good thing i can spend ten minutes on the subway and listen to it whenever i want hehe
 
LOL this isn't a thread anymore... it's like a group chat.
 
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..thus making them the only universal IEM I still want to try. You are not making the task of holding on to my wallet easy
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PS: And catching up on this thread requires more than half the time I spend on head-fi....

 
I will try that next time... might as well bring my entire tips case along!
 
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Be sure to bring your own tips when you listen to the FI-BA-SS. Sony hybrids will do (preferably with half of the their stem cut off). The FADs stock tips don't do the FI-BA-SS justice.

 
How's the dynamic-to-BA crossover? The people I've talked to said that it's sort of obvious... I don't think it's an issue if it's tastefully done, just hope that it's not disjointed.
 
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As for the K3003, I 've posted this before (but it's hard to stay afloat in this thread), those BAs may look like TWFKs, but they don't sound like them. So far I've heard three TWFK based IEMs, the CK10, B2 and UE700 and they all had certain characteristics in common, especially in treble. The K3003's treble doesn't follow that pattern, but of course it's possible that they use some custom tuned TWFKs that just happen to sound different.

 
I saw the video of the Q&A session; he wasn't very clear about a lot of the questions asked; but then again, maybe there was something lost in translation, as they had an interpreter do the mandarin.
 
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Oh, I'd love to meet these FAD people sometime and ask them certain questions, for instance why they devaluate their $1000+ SS flagship with subpar stock tips. But I've been told such behaviour is regarded as rude and those folks aren't very open to suggestions.
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Jan 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM Post #2,514 of 3,746
I'd really love to get a home planetarium from Segatoys:
 
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?cPath=160_165&products_id=2667
 
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?cPath=160_165&products_id=2535
 
It's got shooting stars and rotates in real-time and everything.
 
Jan 7, 2012 at 8:39 AM Post #2,520 of 3,746
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haha... the price (AKG K3003 aside, don't want to get into that one before I've heard it; seems to make peoples' tempers flare around here) is pretty ridiculous, though.
 
Even though i love it, i can't ever imagine buying it (for the time being). it's a good thing i can spend ten minutes on the subway and listen to it whenever i want hehe

 
Based on whatever I've read, FI-BA-SS seems unique with that raw, revealing, naked sound. But I agree that at that price, this would give some tough competition
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