Open headphones with good sub bass?
Apr 22, 2013 at 3:43 AM Post #31 of 61
I will second the HD280 pro for exceptional tight sub bass. I also believe having good mids help to create the detail in bass. Eg a bass guitar may have a low deep note but sounds unnatural without some "twang" or fret buzz. Bass and mids hold hands. I would prefer good sub bass and mids with a sacrifice to mid bass. Mid bass to me unless done very well and balanced properly can be quite obnoxious and fatiguing.
My burnt in HD280s kill my ATH-M50s in the bass department. the M50s are flabby and boomy.
 
Apr 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM Post #32 of 61
Surprised HE-400 wasn't mentioned here. While I don't have it, I have heard it has good bass. Some claim it to be even better than HE-500. I find my HE-500 and also as previously mentioned, the LCD-2, to have wonderful overall bass. Decent mid and sub bass on both, with LCD-2 having more punch.
 
Apr 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM Post #33 of 61
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zoom25 said:
Surprised HE-400 wasn't mentioned here. While I don't have it, I have heard it has good bass. Some claim it to be even better than HE-500. I find my HE-500 and also as previously mentioned, the LCD-2, to have wonderful overall bass. Decent mid and sub bass on both, with LCD-2 having more punch.
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If you could afford to modify the earpads, you could achieve close to LCD2 sub-bass extension (and consequently sub-bass coherence and rumble) on the HE400 and HE500 via a mod I described in my earpad modding guide; with HE400 having more tightness and HE500 having more rumble by nature.
 
(LCD2's sub-bass extensionis achieved by a combination of its driver tuning and earpad mounting method)
 
Apr 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM Post #35 of 61
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jerg said:
If you could afford to modify the earpads, you could achieve close to LCD2 sub-bass extension (and consequently sub-bass coherence and rumble) on the HE400 and HE500 via a mod I described in my earpad modding guide; with HE400 having more tightness and HE500 having more rumble by nature.
 
(LCD2's sub-bass extensionis achieved by a combination of its driver tuning and earpad mounting method)
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Ya I have an extra pair of pleathers lying around. Probably will do it some time in summer. I don't mind the sub bass of HE-500. I would be more interested in perhaps having more of a kick in the mid bass region like LCD-2 has. Although a little bit of extension couldn't hurt :)
 
Apr 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM Post #36 of 61
i find that with proper tube rolling on my WA6-SE, the midbass on the HE-500 can hit really hard, and the sub-bass can go just a little deeper, though it could still use more extension and presence (my T1 for example has less midbass, but better sub-bass)
 
Apr 24, 2013 at 9:48 AM Post #37 of 61
I have to agree that the HE-400 have brilliant bass (and sub-bass) for an open headphone. While my beyerdynamic Custom One Pro seem to generate more pressure, the bass itself is by far more textured, detailed and tighter on the HE-400. Also, the Custom One Pro are closed-can.
 
If you can afford them, go for the HE-400.
 
Obviously, if you can afford the HE-500 or LCD2... 
 
Apr 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM Post #38 of 61
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dubstep girl said:
i find that with proper tube rolling on my WA6-SE, the midbass on the HE-500 can hit really hard, and the sub-bass can go just a little deeper, though it could still use more extension and presence (my T1 for example has less midbass, but better sub-bass)
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The issue (only in relative terms) with HE500's bass is not that it doesn't hit hard, but rather compared to magneplanar headphones with the tightest bass (LCD2 or HE400), HE500's bass sounds a bit more wooly in comparison, like a palm-strike rather than a fisted punch. Of course it is still very tight tactile bass relative to a bazillion other headphones, but that doesn't matter.
 
Apr 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM Post #40 of 61
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Most people can't hear  much below 40hz anyway, unless it is at a very high volume. Human ears are very insensitive to low frequency sound. While most people can just barely hear 1,000 hz at 0 db, they can just barely hear 40 hz at around 50db,  30 hz at around 60 db, and  20hz at around 70 db. To sound as loud as 40db at 1,000 hz, it needs to be around 70 db at 40hz, 90 db at 30 hz, or around 100 db at 20hz.
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher%E2%80%93Munson_curves
 
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Well, is not about people can't hear below 40Hz, or above 20KHz... is about sound resolution! The more you have a bigger sound spectrum you'll have more details and more dynamic to the same sound. This is why some hps companies can get a good drivers resolution, they go up to around 40KHz.
 
Apr 24, 2013 at 2:04 PM Post #41 of 61
Definitely consider the HE-400.  They're ruler flat down to about 20hz and very detailed and textured.
 
Apr 25, 2013 at 4:51 AM Post #43 of 61
I own dt990 pro  and HD650. In my opinion the best job in sub-bass area is made by the 990. The fat and full HD650 bass can give a listening pleasure that 990 cannot achive, but it's not as precise as Beyer's one.
 
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