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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

 

I believe that DT880 and HD650 sound better unamped than HE-500 does, because they have much higher sensitivities - 96db for DT880 and 102 db for HD650 vs. just 89 db for HE-500. If I am not mistaken, sensitivity matters more than impedance in determining how hard a headphone is to drive. Also, I read that higher impedance is actually easier load for many amps. From personal experience, I find HD650 and DT880/600 more focused, spacious and dynamic sounding than HE-500 out of weak, consumer grade portable sources. Out of something decent like an E11 or HM-601, HE-500 improves greatly and begins to compete with the other two cans in technicalities. Out of something like STX, HE-500 starts surpassing HD650 and DT880 overall IMO.

Thx!  I agree about sensitivity rating on HPs.  Just like speakers, higher sensitivity will get more dB.  

In my case, the HE500 sounds better out of portables than my Q701.

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Thx!  I agree about sensitivity rating on HPs.  Just like speakers, higher sensitivity will get more dB.  

In my case, the HE500 sounds better out of portables than my Q701.

 

I tried Q701s and they were strangely hard to drive despite their pretty low impedance and high sensitivity. I tried them out of my Sony NWZ-A816 (slightly better than Clip, but still weak) and they sounded very thin and harsh with almost no bass. Then I added some $400 amp into the mix and suddenly they came to life with quite a full and accurate sound with zero harshness and a very nice bass response. HE-500 also improves dramatically much like Q701. DT880 and HD650 don't improve quite as much with better sources from my experience, maybe due to their much higher impedances that are easier load for amps.

post #6243 of 18090

If you have 2 headphones like the dt770 32 and 600 ohm, the 32 ohm would be easier for an amp to drive to a specific spl, compared to the 600 ohm version. Just saying... Or am I wrong?

post #6244 of 18090

Thanks for the suggestions! I didn't think Fiio can even make HE500 play (lol) but I certainly can look to something more than that. I would certainly consider all your suggestions. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by countolaf View Post

Thanks for the suggestions! I didn't think Fiio can even make HE500 play (lol) but I certainly can look to something more than that. I would certainly consider all your suggestions. Thanks!
That's certainly was my impression too. Then i personally exchanged PMs with some members who happen to be as deaf ears as i am. biggrin.gif i decided to get the e17 to drive my q701. It was quite good and far from being "crap" like implied here by many. Even with the he500, the e17 can drive it on high gain with volume @ 50. Though not as optimally as stronger better amps, it's far from unlistenable or enjoyable as some people here make it out to be. Try it out for yourself. Don't spend more money than needed unless you have $ to burn. I myself prefer to start from the bottom and work up while verifying each upgrade.
Good lluck.
post #6246 of 18090

Hehe. I already  have some Fiio's here so trying them out with it is already given. I kinda like the point of working from bottom to top but I really won't expect too much from my portable amps. Again the plan is to get it at the earliest 4 months from now, so there's plenty time to think and save some $. :D

post #6247 of 18090
Why spend $700 on headphones if sound quality is not important. Listening to bad recordings you can do with some cheap earbuds
IMO if you get great phones you need good equipment around them otherwise why get them
post #6248 of 18090
The headphone is the best investment when growing into a better rig. Then save for each piece.
post #6249 of 18090
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Even with the he500, the e17 can drive it on high gain with volume @ 50.
I am certain that is VERY loud with most music. Are we talking +12dB gain, driven from USB?
post #6250 of 18090
Yes, +12 gain, volume @ 50% (30/60). That's my setting when using e17 on the go.
post #6251 of 18090
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Yes, +12 gain, volume @ 50% (30/60). That's my setting when using e17 on the go.

Ohh, okay. that sounds reasonable, thought you meant 50/60 eek.gif

post #6252 of 18090
Hey guys sorry if this was already asked, but do you think the hifiman 500 can be drived well by the magni/modi? I would be upgrading from the akg k240 mkii. I plan to get a better amp/dac, but not for at least another year. I want a better headphone first! So what do you guys think?
post #6253 of 18090
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Hey guys sorry if this was already asked, but do you think the hifiman 500 can be drived well by the magni/modi? I would be upgrading from the akg k240 mkii. I plan to get a better amp/dac, but not for at least another year. I want a better headphone first! So what do you guys think?

I'd say it would be sufficient for the time being, it's a great little beginners stack cool.gif

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I'd say it would be sufficient for the time being, it's a great little beginners stack cool.gif


+1

 

If my little Fiio E9K can drive the HE500 sufficient, then M/M stack should be able also.  From what I've gathered here, many HE500 owners run the Lyr which is of course much more powerful but M/M should be great starting out.  I went from E9K to Emotiva.  While Emotiva has so much more power and indeed resulted in improvements, the E9K is quite capable.

post #6255 of 18090
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Originally Posted by slayerming2 View Post

Hey guys sorry if this was already asked, but do you think the hifiman 500 can be drived well by the magni/modi? I would be upgrading from the akg k240 mkii. I plan to get a better amp/dac, but not for at least another year. I want a better headphone first! So what do you guys think?

 

I used the Magni for a while when I first got my HE-500 and I enjoyed it very much. It will work just fine until you decide to upgrade. Lyr is certainly another step up from the Magni, as expected.

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