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hifimanrookie said:

lolz....well...check a darkv 33..couch..couch...lafi 33..couch couch....ly..couch couch...decwa couch couch .... i cant say those names outloud here..or else i could be cruzified

or try the emotiva...yep..that name i can mention without being dismembered or something like that....

 

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Of course you're going to be cruzified! First you were promoting the 337 amps and now their couches as well!!!!!!! Shame on you mister.
 
 
P.S. Emotiva sofa sofa 

zoom25 said:

Of course you're going to be cruzified! First you were promoting the 337 amps and now their couches as well!!!!!!! Shame on you mister.


P.S. Emotiva sofa sofa 

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I meant cough cough..bad on u mr.. damn that english is tough..

Emotiva sofa sofa? Is that with massage function or without?

On a side note..i see ur residing in canada..ever had the pleasure to hear a blue circle audio product? As u know am waiting for an amp made by them..am just curious if u ever had tried one as ur also in canada..

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hifimanrookie said:

I meant cough cough..bad on u mr..

damn that english is tough..

Emotiva sofa sofa? Is that with massage function or without?

On a side note..i see ur residing in canada..ever had the pleasure to hear a blue circle audio product? As u know am waiting for an amp made by them..am just curious if u ever had tried one as ur also in canada..

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Hey just curious. What other amps have you compared the 337 to? Have you ever tried any speaker taps?
 
As for EF-6 being the ceiling for the Hifimans, it's not just 5 Watts, but 5 Watts of Class A power not AB and that's at 50R. Plus Fang himself was driving the HE-6 from 80 Watt Speaker taps when he first debuted the headphone to the world (or maybe 100 Watts? can't remember). So now that he has his own branded amp, he's obviously going to push it hard on the community. I'm not saying 1 Watt isn't enough, but it can certainly can sound better with a little more power like maybe like 12 Watts.... that's all, just little more power. LOL

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Hey just curious. What other amps have you compared the 337 to? Have you ever tried any speaker taps?
 

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Wow dude, that was a cold move.

Darn, I love the voice of the gal from Emotiva who just called me to confirm shipping address.
 
I am doing this out of curiosity just to see how much of an improvement the Mini-x will be in comparison to the little Fiio E9K.
I tried the HE500 on a pretty powerful audio-gd yesterday but wasn't impressed.  If the Mini-X turns out to be good, it will be a $200 saving from not gettin the Lyr.
Let's wait and see ...
 

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hifimanrookie said:

I meant cough cough..bad on u mr..

damn that english is tough..

Emotiva sofa sofa? Is that with massage function or without?

On a side note..i see ur residing in canada..ever had the pleasure to hear a blue circle audio product? As u know am waiting for an amp made by them..am just curious if u ever had tried one as ur also in canada..

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LOL English certainly is a confusing language. No biggie, as always, just teasing 
 
Emotiva does come with a massage function. It has a patented 20 Hz sub-chiropractic massager built into it
 
Regarding blue circle audio products, I haven't heard any of them. In fact, I don't ever remember seeing them yet in any stores.
 
Speaking of Canada, anyone here know where you can try out Resonnessence Labs products here. I see that the company is Canadian but can't find a local dealer. Is it website only or what? I'd love to try out the Concero myself, if possible.

m-13 said:

Hey just curious. What other amps have you compared the 337 to? Have you ever tried any speaker taps?

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Yes i did compared my 337 to other headphone amps.....decware,shiit, burson, matrix, violectric, wooaudio, bottlehead,musical fidelity

But never used any speaker amp on my he500 as i didnt find it nessesary...i drive my he500 at 21:00 o'clock max...and from around 23:00 thesound gets so loud its almost unbearable so high is the amount of dB's its pumps out then..and its totally clear and clean!!! No clipping whatsoever..just clean lows, perfectly mids and those velvetly highs..u just cant deny loving them..but as i said..i will try one of those socalled magicial emotiva's on the london meet in oktober..i am really curious if it stacks upto my 337... And i invite everyone to try it..as i believe deeply in the soundquality of my 337 in combo with the he500...and i said before..i am not only one who says it...EVERYONE..and some of them are guitar playing metallica musicians and one plays thepiano really well..and even them..being very difficult in their opinions and have DIFFERENT priorities concerning music loved the rig i have...

But asi said..i dont need to brag or attack anyone to proof this...i will show it personally on that meet...and i stand my opinion..power is not holy...

And i know my 337 is not the last word in amping..its a budget amp also..after all..sort of... I only find it sad that so many 'budget amps owning people feel attacked that other amps could be better then the so hyped up amps they own..am not saying they are bad...some of those budget amps do a remarkeable deed....i owned one in the past for 2 years..the matrix mstage..i still think its a killer in discuise for the money..

But i will ask u back...did u ever ever try a powerfull quality tube amp?..of the likes of decware taboo, darkvoice 337, bottlehead crack, lafigaro 339 or cavalli glass...for sure u cant honestly believe a decware or cavalli be worse then a emotiva on a he500?
Or ss amps of the like of violectric v200, musical fidelity, burson etc.

So pls...before u try to confront me with those kind of questions (by the way that question was asked me many times already in the past by certain o2 and lyr owners..so i am customed to it )
..pls do ur homework... I never listened to the emotiva,.thats why i am not saying its better or worse... But seeing how much u try to discredit me i will listen to one in oktober..and i never forget! I still believe..no matter how good the e100 can be..emotiva had to cut corners somewhere to sell itfor only 198...uknow it and i know it....


So i urge u to try one the the amps i mentioned first before trying to put me against the wall...if u believe the emotiva is the holy grail for the he500..so be it..but i think ur missing out..

I even wanna state that some vintage mcintosch and marantz speaker amps would sweep the floor with the emotiva..and thats a fact..no one has to proof that..

But no worries..i respect other person opinions..friends again?

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zoom25 said:

LOL English certainly is a confusing language. No biggie, as always, just teasing 

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Actually, it can be. Especially since the grammar and such is made solely upon the spoken language, and therefore the rules and exceptions can be kinda weird. Danish on the other hand is most likely not understandable guteral sounds from the view of a foreigner. And when you actually start to understand the language it probably just get worse.. There are so many weird expressions and words that can mean the same thing or just doesn't make any sense.

zoom25 said:

LOL English certainly is a confusing language. No biggie, as always, just teasing 

Emotiva does come with a massage function. It has a patented 20 Hz sub-chiropractic massager built into it

Regarding blue circle audio products, I haven't heard any of them. In fact, I don't ever remember seeing them yet in any stores.

Speaking of Canada, anyone here know where you can try out Resonnessence Labs products here. I see that the company is Canadian but can't find a local dealer. Is it website only or what? I'd love to try out the Concero myself, if possible.

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Its okay..As uknow english is not even my second language..lolz.. i know u were teasing, we share same passion..so teasing is normal...as long we respect each other...i do the same....hehehehe

Yeah i know..i by accident stumbled upon the brand here on headhi also.....as one of the most wellregarded headfi'er did a review on their standard headphone amp..and he was lyrical about it...and reading the reviews about their producst made me take the big expensive step..they are a peach to deal with...they answer promptly and correct on all my questions...andi have lots of them..lolz...its a very low profile company..but damn..their amps are super expensive..lolz..

Resonnessense? Never heard of them..i will google them..u made me curious.
Peace!

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Actually, it can be. Especially since the grammar and such is made solely upon the spoken language, and therefore the rules and exceptions can be kinda weird. Danish on the other hand is most likely not understandable guteral sounds from the view of a foreigner. And when you actually start to understand the language it probably just get worse.. There are so many weird expressions and words that can mean the same thing or just doesn't make any sense.

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Exactly as dutch..the amount of exeptions in gramar are just mindblowing big..i pity foreigners who want to learn my native language... but hey..german is same thing...and i. Speak that too among portuguese.

Do I see a group hug coming?
 
@hifimanrookie,  I am in the US and have been curious about the emotiva so I just ordered one to see.  I've been down this road before using high end pro-audio amps for home theater but I am willing to give this a try, especially $189 shipped, no tax.  Heck, it costs me more than that just taking the wife and my boys out to dinner these days.
But yes, I am intrigued by the price point too but sometimes, very rarely sometimes, we might be lucky enough to get a miracle matching.  This potential, while being skeptical, I won't dismiss just yet.  I'll find out in 1 week. 

koiloco said:

Do I see a group hug coming?

@hifimanrookie,  I am in the US and have been curious about the emotiva so I just ordered one to see.  I've been down this road before using high end pro-audio amps for home theater but I am willing to give this a try, especially $189 shipped, no tax.  Heck, it costs me more than that just taking the wife and my boys out to dinner these days.
But yes, I am intrigued by the price point too but sometimes, very rarely sometimes, we might be lucky enough to get a miracle matching.  This potential, while being skeptical, I won't dismiss just yet.  I'll find out in 1 week. 

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Iagree with u... Thats why i am going to listen to one in oktober..and if its as good as they say..i will for sure buy one the next day for my second rig.... its indeed that affordable..having a trip to antwerp with my family and the outrageous high gas prices (ron98 or 100 for my car) here in europe would be even more expensive... Even with postage...

Grouphug? I am in

Hey hifimanrookie,
 
Wow you gave super long answer to my question, but didn't get into specifics about why you found the 337 superior to Burson/Schiit, etc...
 
The Cavalli Liquid Glass puts out 6 Watts into 50R, so that's almost as powerful as the Emotiva. The Liquid Gold puts out 9W so that's definitley in Emotvia territory.
 
My only Tube experience is with the hybrid Lyr (Owned it for over a year and really got into some tube rolling). This is why I feel comfortable trashing it, but I can never say the Emotiva is better than (Cavalli, 337, or any other amp that I haven't tried)
 
As for genius guitar players, musicians, etc... honestly they wouldn't know whether a HE-500 was being driven properly or not. Evaluating headphones is not the same as evaluating music. I know it sounds weird, but they're not really related. Emotiva isn't magic, I'm sure it sucks compared to a lot of other quality speaker amps, including a lot of vintage amps. What it does is it gives you the minimum power requirement to enjoy the HE-500 while having pretty good transparency and a neutral tonality. The transparency could be better obviously and you won't find any lushness you find with tubes. It'll be that precise cold solid-state sound, but it's not really colored in anyway as long as your DAC isn't colored either.
 
I think going to the London meet to prove yourself right will only result in one thing: you'll prove yourself right. It's called expectation bias, and those meets are loud.
I'm sure you know somebody a friend/cousin/uncle that has a speaker amp/receiver in their home. Go plug in your HE-500 to the speaker taps and take some time to evaulate it in a quiet enviornment fairly.
 
Anyway, let me know if you want to do an amp swap. I can alway ship you my Emotiva for your 337. (I promise to ship it back )

OMG, this thread! is tempting me to get my hands on emotiva. The discounted price is tempting also.

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koiloco said:

Darn, I love the voice of the gal from Emotiva who just called me to confirm shipping address.

 
I am doing this out of curiosity just to see how much of an improvement the Mini-x will be in comparison to the little Fiio E9K.
I tried the HE500 on a pretty powerful audio-gd yesterday but wasn't impressed.  If the Mini-X turns out to be good, it will be a $200 saving from not gettin the Lyr.
Let's wait and see ...
 

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So you bought a E9K?
 
How do you like the improvements over the E17 alone? Can you hear a difference with Moar power?