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post #10471 of 14585
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

As someone who works with and has set up professional amplifiers at major amphitheaters for years, builds speakers, and measures speakers for fun,  I know Rookie is getting screwed a good $15,000+ on that $20,000 amp. I have two speakers pushing 400w each (overkill) + two 18" subwoofers bridged at 1800W all off the same amplifier, which cost me $450. Frequency response and distortion figures showed minimal (if any) differences compared to the Emotiva XPA-5 and Krell Evolution 402e ($12,000). The biggest measured changes actually came from switching to Trinnov EQ/Remap modes via my receiver per each amp, not the amps in general. It also took close to 115db to see any differences... which if you haven't sat in a small room at 115db for long, is intolerable.

If you truly believe you can't get that performance or design from an amp built for $15,000 less, than go right ahead and purchase it. Who am I to tell anyone how to spend their money?
lolz..i hear u..but my amp is not costing 20,000usd... It will cost 1/4 of that..my amp is just based on that speakeramp..a light version of the NSL.
But honestly..i have a few friends having multi 10.000 worth of speaker rigs..and they do sound far far far far far far far far far better then my humble onkyo rig with humble quality tannoy speakers...

So i say..if u have the money and that expensive rig gives u a good feeling..buy it..no matter how stupid that investment will be..if we always would look at what value ur stuff would give u..every high end brand..no matter in what market..cars, bikes, weapons, watches, audio, instruments, fashion etc. Would go bankrupt and our lives would be less colorfull..

When i visit those friends i enjoy listening to their rigs..eventhough i do know its completely over the top having ur speakers being bi-amped by its own seperated monoblocks..connected by rca cables worth of a small second hand car..with lp player that looks like its alienmade and weights a ton..lolz....but i close my eyes and hear bliss..ofcourse i will never have the money to buy that stuff having a very expensive daughter of 11 and a fashion addict as a wife .

so unless my next job will be into 6 figures salary i wont be buying that...so realistic am i..so this is my dream amp... Even my watch is not that expensive biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/1/14 at 12:54pm
post #10472 of 14585
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

I saw your post!!!  wink.gif

Haven't tried the HD 650 pads, as I'm not convinced I'm keeping mine, but I did just modify my super cheap headband pad (wow! price went way up) to be shorter (trimmed off the two snaps on the ends) and substituted thinner foam (not the spongy kind that's in there).  Haven't had much head time with it yet, but I've got a little more room on the sliding parts, and the fit seems better.  It's a compromise between the stock headband, which gives me the best fit, and having a little extra padding, but not too much.  Looking for the Goldilocks Zone, but then, aren't we all darthsmile.gif

Carry on with Summit Fi.  It's fun to read about stuff I'll never own.

I bought that same cushion (and yes, it was way cheaper!) but like you I'm not completely satisfied with its stock form.
I just have to find the Sennheiser pad on eBay, since I don't live in the USA.

Would you mind posting photos of your mod when you can? And of course some impressions after you spend some more time with it. :-)
post #10473 of 14585
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

Regarding headphones and headphone amps, DACs: We'd think that a high end, call that expensive, product is all profit, These sell at low quantities compared to the more moderately priced similar products. The cost of engineering and production setup has to be spread across far less sales, so the prices gets inflated relative to products that sell in larger volume. Fancy enclosures for amps and DACs are not cheap to setup for or manufacture, the molding of plastic components or forming of metal components for headphones might even be more expensive to get done. Now it's up to you to ask yourself is that product worth the price and how does it factor into the law of diminishing returns. Make your value judgement.
This is so well said!!! Agree completely.. tongue.gif
post #10474 of 14585
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


This is so well said!!! Agree completely.. tongue.gif

At 1/4th the price, that's much more reasonable and in line with what i listed (almost to the tee). Should be incredible, and we would definitely want some impressions.

 

I have my jergpads on the way, and a Geek Pulse X to power the HE-500 in the future. 

post #10475 of 14585
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Regarding headphones and headphone amps, DACs: We'd think that a high end, call that expensive, product is all profit, These sell at low quantities compared to the more moderately priced similar products. The cost of engineering and production setup has to be spread across far less sales, so the prices gets inflated relative to products that sell in larger volume. Fancy enclosures for amps and DACs are not cheap to setup for or manufacture, the molding of plastic components or forming of metal components for headphones might even be more expensive to get done. Now it's up to you to ask yourself is that product worth the price and how does it factor into the law of diminishing returns. Make your value judgement.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


This is so well said!!! Agree completely.. tongue.gif

Sometimes I make sense. :bigsmile_face:

post #10476 of 14585
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

At 1/4th the price, that's much more reasonable and in line with what i listed (almost to the tee). Should be incredible, and we would definitely want some impressions.

I have my jergpads on the way, and a Geek Pulse X to power the HE-500 in the future. 
Lolz..thanks.. I work very hard for my money... No rich wife or girlfriend here..or old money biggrin.gif

I ofcourse will do a small review of my new rig..and visit as much audio meets as possible... wink.gif

And u will love the modulor (jerg)pads..i had those on my he500 and they transformed the phone...try also to do the opengrill mod..together with the modulor pads ur he500 kicks ass... With pain in my heart i sold my he500 to make room for my maybe..just maybe endgame phone...

This period is hell for me..sold both my amp and my phone..which i both loved deeply for something i didnt even listened yet..so u can imagine am on the edge of my chair wink.gif

But i have deep faith in both builders.. And in their good name. tongue.gif
post #10477 of 14585
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Originally Posted by themad View Post

I bought that same cushion (and yes, it was way cheaper!) but like you I'm not completely satisfied with its stock form.
I just have to find the Sennheiser pad on eBay, since I don't live in the USA.

Would you mind posting photos of your mod when you can? And of course some impressions after you spend some more time with it. :-)

 

Here are a couple photos.  Hopefully you get an idea of the thickness and type of foam I used.  You'll also see where I trimmed, but that's to taste.  Finally, in the cross-section photo, you can see thin gray foam inside the side/wrap-around/snap flaps.  The same foam is in the middle part, from which I removed the thicker foam.  It sits on the skull side of the pad.  That foam seems pretty well attached, and I didn't bother trying to remove it.  The white-ish foam I inserted is shorter than the space into which it goes.  I did this because bending the modded pad to fit around the headband caused it to poke out the ends.  I trimmed maybe an eighth of an inch on either end.  Maybe it could be made neater, but I don't see it on my head ;)

 

HTH.

 

 

post #10478 of 14585
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

I saw your post!!!  ;)

 

Haven't tried the HD 650 pads, as I'm not convinced I'm keeping mine, but I did just modify my super cheap headband pad (wow! price went way up) to be shorter (trimmed off the two snaps on the ends) and substituted thinner foam (not the spongy kind that's in there).  Haven't had much head time with it yet, but I've got a little more room on the sliding parts, and the fit seems better.  It's a compromise between the stock headband, which gives me the best fit, and having a little extra padding, but not too much.  Looking for the Goldilocks Zone, but then, aren't we all :darthsmile:

 

Carry on with Summit Fi.  It's fun to read about stuff I'll never own.


That's the one I used also. I was able to use it in its stock form, no mods needed for me.

post #10479 of 14585
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post
 


That's the one I used also. I was able to use it in its stock form, no mods needed for me.

 

Somebody handed me a pair of scissors while I was wearing the HE-500s... dangerous move ;)

I wore it for a while but the fit was just off.  So I removed it and liked the fit, but not the lack of padding.  At first I just trimmed, and that made a difference, but my big head wanted more play in the sliding adjustors.  Since it was open, I yanked out the foam.  Also, modding is fun :darthsmile: 

post #10480 of 14585
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Somebody handed me a pair of scissors while I was wearing the HE-500s... dangerous move ;)

I wore it for a while but the fit was just off.  So I removed it and liked the fit, but not the lack of padding.  At first I just trimmed, and that made a difference, but my big head wanted more play in the sliding adjustors.  Since it was open, I yanked out the foam.  Also, modding is fun :darthsmile: 

Just don't get too carried away and start messing with the drivers. :eek:

post #10481 of 14585
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Somebody handed me a pair of scissors while I was wearing the HE-500s... dangerous move ;)

I wore it for a while but the fit was just off.  So I removed it and liked the fit, but not the lack of padding.  At first I just trimmed, and that made a difference, but my big head wanted more play in the sliding adjustors.  Since it was open, I yanked out the foam.  Also, modding is fun :darthsmile: 

Yeah, I have a big head too, had to reshape the band and then with this pad on the slides are all the way out, which is just right, thankfully.

post #10482 of 14585
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Just don't get too carried away and start messing with the drivers. :eek:

 

You'd like that, wouldn't you.  I know you've got a devious streak ;)

post #10483 of 14585
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Just don't get too carried away and start messing with the drivers. :eek:

 

 

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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

You'd like that, wouldn't you.  I know you've got a devious streak ;)

Me? Devious? Never. Buahahaha......

post #10484 of 14585
You guys, I asked Jude, and he said the HE-500 was and always is Summit-Fi. Shall I ask him to move this thread to there?
post #10485 of 14585
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post

You guys, I asked Jude, and he said the HE-500 was and always is Summit-Fi. Shall I ask him to move this thread to there?

 

Wouldn't be opposed to that!

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