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post #5506 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Iamnothim View Post

Think of all the cash you get to spend.

 

Tube extenders

Tube dampeners

A nice A/C power conditioner.

Amprex 65' Orange Globes

Amprex USN-CEP

Lorenz E188CC

Siemans/Haske 3 mica

Mullard CV2493's

Telefunken CCa's

58' Pinched Waist "D" getters.

 

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The Amperex '65s OGs. How different would the 67's be? I only asked becuase I've got a couple pairs on their way.

post #5507 of 8735
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post

The Amperex '65s OGs. How different would the 67's be? I only asked becuase I've got a couple pairs on their way.

I own a bunch of Philips valves.

USN-CEP's are 1965 (6922)

I have 2 sets of OG's

69' dimple getters

67' small "O" getters (yours)

I also have 1960 "D" getters and 

My1965 La Radiotechniques.  Are Big "O" getter, gold pin E188CC's and were made in the Philips plant in Heerlen Holland, not France.

Another set of E188CC gold pins are on the way.  They are "RTC" labeled but made by Mullard in the UK.

 

The 67's are very good.  But I also enjoy the 69's

You will be pleased.

 

There are a couple build differences over the years.

Later in the sixties the design went to  "Dimple" getters.  (A disc with bumps) and an "A" frame rather than a single post.

But there are exceptions.  My 67' and 69' are a single post.

 

If you'd like to learn more about valves here is a link to a Dropbox with some good documents.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/moq4g2gjnfeysps/rI_SEEqiG2

 

EDIT:  I have some valves not made by Philips from the 70's   Something changed they just don't have the musicality of late 50's to mid 60's

Hence, I stick with the 60's


Edited by Iamnothim - 2/25/13 at 12:23pm
post #5508 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Iamnothim View Post

I own a bunch of Philips valves.

USN-CEP's are 1965 (6922)

I have 2 sets of OG's

69' dimple getters

67' small "O" getters (yours)

I also have 1960 "D" getters and 

My1965 La Radiotechniques.  Are Big "O" getter, gold pin E188CC's and were made in the Philips plant in Heerlen Holland, not France.

Another set of E188CC gold pins are on the way.  They are "RTC" labeled but made by Mullard in the UK.

 

The 67's are very good.  But I also enjoy the 69's

You will be pleased.

 

There are a couple build differences over the years.

Later in the sixties the design went to  "Dimple" getters.  (A disc with bumps) and an "A" frame rather than a single post.

But there are exceptions.  My 67' and 69' are a single post.

 

If you'd like to learn more about valves here is a link to a Dropbox with some good documents.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/moq4g2gjnfeysps/rI_SEEqiG2

 

EDIT:  I have some valves not made by Philips from the 70's   Something changed they just don't have the musicality of late 50's to mid 60's

Hence, I stick with the 60's

Can you let me borrow that La Radio tube?

 

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post #5509 of 8735
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Originally Posted by gmahler2u View Post

Can you let me borrow that La Radio tube?

 

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They are presently on tour...  I miss them.

post #5510 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Iamnothim View Post

They are presently on tour...  I miss them.


WOW,,,everybody piece of that la Radio tube?  cool....

question, If i get the socket saver, Do I need to get one or two for my lyr?

 

Thanks

post #5511 of 8735
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Originally Posted by gmahler2u View Post


WOW,,,everybody piece of that la Radio tube?  cool....

question, If i get the socket saver, Do I need to get one or two for my lyr?

 

Thanks

a duce

post #5512 of 8735

Anyone know any UK sites that sell lots of tubes? ebay looks a bit sparce apart from foreign sellers.

 

Seems like all the good old british Mullard tubes have grown legs and walked abroad, can't seem to find any in this country confused.gif

post #5513 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

Anyone know any UK sites that sell lots of tubes? ebay looks a bit sparce apart from foreign sellers.

 

Seems like all the good old british Mullard tubes have grown legs and walked abroad, can't seem to find any in this country confused.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310353960765?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

STORE:  http://stores.ebay.com/LANGREX?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

post #5514 of 8735

 

Many thanks beerchug.gif

 

Does it matter that they're not matched? I've been looking for matched pairs but no idea if it's absolutely necessary.

post #5515 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

 

Many thanks beerchug.gif

 

Does it matter that they're not matched? I've been looking for matched pairs but no idea if it's absolutely necessary.

Retraction:

The information in this post is inaccurate as the listing on eBay was incorrect.  The tubes/valves in the eBay listing are from the 70's / 80's.   The eBay vendor has been notified  I believe I made a post with similar information.  I hope that this has not had any adverse effects..

 

Matched is a very good idea....

I took it on faith as they have a large quantity of these valves and they are a regular valve seller.

They should know to match.

One of the other members posted that they were a reputable seller.

 

They goods look perfect.

 

The E188CC is a very good valve.  I have a set made in Heerlen Holland that I love so much, I wanted a backup pair.

I think these are a fair price for 1960 vintage.

 

The ad states a "R0D1"

R = Mitcham UK plant, "0" is 1960 "D" is April "1" is the first week

 

VR1 is the valve type.  E188CC

 

 

BTW.  You don't need "balanced" with a Lyr.


Edited by Iamnothim - 2/26/13 at 1:18pm
post #5516 of 8735

The question is frequently asked here "How long do tubes last?"

 

In reading tube/valve specifications for the Telefunken E88CC / 6922 / CCa

it specifically states:  "We guarantee 10,000 hours of operation, averaged over 100 tubes.

 

At the bottom of the sheet it specifies compliance with USN MIL Spec  This valve type is known for reliability and tight tolerances.

So there it is, straight from Telefunken.

It's a multipage doc.  I only attached page 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

TeleFunken E88CC.pdf 165k .pdf file
Edited by Iamnothim - 2/25/13 at 4:50pm
post #5517 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

 

Many thanks beerchug.gif

 

Does it matter that they're not matched? I've been looking for matched pairs but no idea if it's absolutely necessary.

If you are just starting out, these might be a nice little deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCC88-PHILIPS-NOS-/260746635558?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Valves_Vacuum_Tubes&hash=item3cb5b5e926

post #5518 of 8735

How do you install socket saver?  sorry for the noobie questions...deadhorse.gif

post #5519 of 8735
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

Since you have them too, what's your take vs. the other tubes in you library? I like these about as much as I like my two sets of JAN Amperex ('65 JAN-CEP 6922 and '66 JAN-CEP 7308) but the sound stage and treble isn't as good as my Telefunken ECC88s (then again, the bass is a little better on these). Haven't had time to compare against the Brimars though.

 

Ok, so admittedly with only a few hours of listening, I have some thoughts.  These Lorenz SEL's are pretty sweet. I think the bass is more controlled, slightly deeper (I think?) and consistant across the range than with the Matsu****a's. The mids seem a bit more present. Instrument separation seems better with more body and sense of space to each instrument. There seems to be a tad more sparkle (I was going to say sizzle, but I dont want to give the wrong impression) to the top end for good and bad.  Seems to add a clarity to the sound. Soundstage seems about the same, though the music seems a bit more open and airy.  

I think they are keepers darthsmile.gif  Thanks to whoever first pointed these out the other week.... Sorry I can't remember at this point. Hopefully you know who you are.

 

Maybe I'll give an update after a few weeks....

post #5520 of 8735
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How do you install socket saver?  sorry for the noobie questions...deadhorse.gif

 

They just plug in like a tube, then the tube plugs into it. They just go in between the tube and the socket on the amps motherboard.

 

A pic from http://www.tubemonger.com/

 

 

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