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Yea, probably. Bassheads will be satisfied with the TH-600/900, but not the LCD-3. There is also the Ultrasone Signature DJ and Edition 8. Preferences will do the rest, as far as ranking goes. 

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The edition 8? Really? I've (briefly) audtioned it, but found the sound to be on par with the dt770 pro. But then with a smaller soundstage and just a nasty box-like sound if that makes sense. No, there is no doubt that the LCD3 sounds way, way more natural than that particular model of the ultrasone.
Note that I wrote, 'the most sophisticated basshead can', therefor it also is the best basshead can imo. I've never heard any higher fostex models, but I'm sure those are incredible too.
 
I bet Tyll agrees with me on ultrasone headphones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ (different ultrasone model)

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The edition 8? Really? I've (briefly) audtioned it, but found the sound to be on par with the dt770 pro. But then with a smaller soundstage and just a nasty box-like sound if that makes sense. No, there is no doubt that the LCD3 sounds way, way more natural than that particular model of the ultrasone.
Note that I wrote, 'the most sophisticated basshead can', therefor it also is the best basshead can imo. I've never heard any higher fostex models, but I'm sure those are incredible too.
 
I bet Tyll agrees with me on ultrasone headphones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ (different ultrasone model)

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Wait so you think bassheads enjoy natural sounding headphones? I get it now. 

Oh come on Greed lol. Doesn't the LCD3 have some bass emphasis? People use to neutral sounding (plain-Jane-flat ) headphones may construe the LCD2 and 3 as bass head headphones. I would at least think they are categorized as bass-heavy. Some also do find a warmer presentation (due to bass) to be natural sounding. So it depends on how you perceive sound & the terms one uses to describe what they hear..
 

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Oh come on Greed lol. Doesn't the LCD3 have some bass emphasis? People use to neutral sounding heaphones may construe the LCD2 and 3 as bass head headphones. I would at least think they are categorized as bass-heavy. Some also do find a warmer presentation (due to bass) to be natural sounding. So it depends on how you perceive sound.
 

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I can't honestly say the LCD-3 is a basshead headphone. The LCD-2 could be I suppose, but not the 3. Also, he said natural not neutral, which I find to be somewhat different. I would say the LCD-3 is natural sounding yes, the most natural sounding to my ears. Bassheads don't go for natural sounding headphones, they go for headphones with extreme bass emphasis. The most classic example is the Denon AH-DXXXX series. They all have huge bass emphasis. A natural sound doesn't have much bass accentuation, if any. The Audeze house sound is warm, but not bassy, IMO. Maybe in comparison to something like the HD800, but not in the grand scale of things. 
 
I would sayt the best basshead headphone is the TH-900. Hands down. 

But aren't the LCD2 and LCD3 not neutral regarding their bass? They both have emphasis right? That can be construed and natural sounding (having a slight emphasis on bass). Doesn't mean it has to be hardcore bass-head levels. But generally I term an IEM that sounds natural with some form of bass emphasis and warmth due to it. For those use to a dead-neutral sounding headphone or IEMs I wouldn't be surprised if they found both the LCD2 and 3 to be bass-heavy or bassy. It just depends on what you are use to and what you prefer. For example someone coming from etys would most likely feel this way .

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But aren't the LCD2 and LCD3 not neutral regarding their bass? They both have emphasis right? That can be construed and natural sounding (having a slight emphasis on bass). Doesn't mean it has to be hardcore bass-head levels. But generally I terms an IEM that sounds natural with some form of bass emphasis and warmth due to it.

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Yes, this I can agree on. They do have some bass emphasis, I'm talking maybe 2-3 db levels, nothing major. And yes, a small bass emphasis can be construed as natural sounding. The LCD-2 has more bass emphasis than the LCD-3. In comparison the LCD-3 has more linear and balanced bass response. 
 
But what bob said is "basshead", which IMO they are not, at least the 3. The LCD-2 is arguably a basshead headphone, although my personal opinion would also be no. 

It's all good but he did say some other things which I can agree with him on so clarifying my thoughts. As well as the fact that some will consider such headphones bass-heavy coming from bass-light gear .
 

Did anyone mention Spiral Ears in the past 2 pages?  Oh wait, I just did.

Listening to my SE5 after a few months......
 
One of the most noticeable things is how similar the portrayal of vocals is to the FitEar C435 and FAD PF- IX...there is this very special ease of presentation and clarity. The SE5 is actually more narrow sounding than I remembered, but has great depth...this obviously contributes to the extremely dense sounding presentation. Funnily, it is not sounding as dark as I had remembered it.
 
Going listen over the weekend.....enjoying them a lot

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Yes, this I can agree on. They do have some bass emphasis, I'm talking maybe 2-3 db levels, nothing major. And yes, a small bass emphasis can be construed as natural sounding. The LCD-2 has more bass emphasis than the LCD-3. In comparison the LCD-3 has more linear and balanced bass response. 
 
But what bob said is "basshead", which IMO they are not, at least the 3. The LCD-2 is arguably a basshead headphone, although my personal opinion would also be no. 

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I have to say, that looking at the FR of the LCD2 and LCD3 I'm kinda surpised. When I listened to them they did sound more bassy than that. However, I auditioned them with the norse audio cable, and on a tube amp. The seller of this headphone said that the norse audio cable should also change the frequency response of the headphone, because the cable had extra resistance or something. Although I'm not sure if this immediately result in more bass.

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Listening to my SE5 after a few months......
 
One of the most noticeable things is how similar the portrayal of vocals is to the FitEar C435 and FAD PF- IX...there is this very special ease of presentation and clarity. The SE5 is actually more narrow sounding than I remembered, but has great depth...this obviously contributes to the extremely dense sounding presentation. Funnily, it is not sounding as dark as I had remembered it.
 
Going listen over the weekend.....enjoying them a lot

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lol a few months vacation .

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Did anyone mention Spiral Ears in the past 2 pages?  Oh wait, I just did.

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Sorry for derailing!

Just a quick note about how I drive them for the moment how they are easy to drive.
 
Connected to my MSI GT60 gaming laptop, I keep the volume between 4-15 depending on the song. I mean they are really not hard to drive. Now the volume is set 8 and it is already more than enough.
 
Also they perform really nice at low volumes too. You don't need to crank up to volume too high to get the best bass out of it or something.

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That's crazy! 
 
I once listened to the LCD2 and LCD3, but found them way too warm sounding. Very good, but also far, far from neutral due to the bass boost. However, I think you can safely say, that the lcd3 is by far the most sophisticated and overal best basshead can out there

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IMO, LCD 2 is 15% warmer from neutral. LCD 3 is 5% warmer from neutral. To my ears, LCD 3 is one of the most natural and involving sounding headphone. The bass is the best I have ever heard (just like what Jude said). It doesn't have any boosted bass at all (even less bass presence than LCD 2). But it's extremely super extended and controlled. On top system, LCD 3 can be arguably one of the best dynamic headphones ever. My se5 is about 3-5% warmer than my LCD3 depending on songs, but it doesn't lose any transparency or detail at all which is the magic part. SE5 changes more with songs than LCD 3 that is why I said some songs it sounds even better than LCD 3.
 
Some phones can be bright but still lack of transparency and air (eg. JH16, JH13)
Some phones can be dark but still deliver the resolution, transparency and detail (eg.SM3, EM6, LCD 2 rev.1)
 
I don't classify either LCD 3 or SE5 to the category above. They are still within the range of neutral and natural in terms of sound signature. The resolution, air, detail, transparency are top class.

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IMO, LCD 2 is 15% warmer from neutral. LCD 3 is 5% warmer from neutral. To my ears, LCD 3 is one of the most natural and involving sounding headphone. The bass is the best I have ever heard (just like what Jude said). It doesn't have any boosted bass at all (even less bass presence than LCD 2). But it's extremely super extended and controlled. On top system, LCD 3 can be arguably one of the best dynamic headphones ever. My se5 is about 3-5% warmer than my LCD3 depending on songs, but it doesn't lose any transparency or detail at all which is the magic part. SE5 changes more with songs than LCD 3 that is why I said some songs it sounds even better than LCD 3.
 
Some phones can be bright but still lack of transparency and air (eg. JH16, JH13)
Some phones can be dark but still deliver the resolution, transparency and detail (eg.SM3, EM6, LCD 2 rev.1)
 
I don't classify either LCD 3 or SE5 to the category above. They are still within the range of neutral and natural in terms of sound signature. The resolution, air, detail, transparency are top class.

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I have to agree with you about SE5way. I wouldn't call them dark either. They are seriously neutral and their technical capabilities are just incredible. Resolution and detail are so good that I can't believe what I am hearing some times. Def. top class as you said.