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I'm getting the Annie headband for $20 more because it will give my Q701 that all black look after I dye the stitching.

I'll call it my very own Q712 Pro

 

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Post some pics of your Q712s when you get them done!
 

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Post some pics of your Q712s when you get them done!
 

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It won't look all that nice because my only camera is my phone...
 
But I will still do my best to share a good view of those babies when they're done. I will be ordering the headband this week and send them out to get switched as soon as it gets here. I have to send in the headphone and headband together to avoid confusion. I'm thinking maybe 30 days without my babies...

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It won't look all that nice because my only camera is my phone...

 
But I will still do my best to share a good view of those babies when they're done. I will be ordering the headband this week and send them out to get switched as soon as it gets here. I have to send in the headphone and headband together to avoid confusion. I'm thinking maybe 30 days without my babies...

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I think I'd have a heart attack from that.

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I'm thinking maybe 30 days without my babies...

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I know EXACTLY how that feels.
 

Hello. Ive been looking around some more, and now i cant decide whether to get the Q701s still or to get the DT880 pros now... I dont actually play competitive games, just for fun, but i also write music so i need something neutral, i also listen to electronic and orchestral... Choices like this are so hard...

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Hello. Ive been looking around some more, and now i cant decide whether to get the Q701s still or to get the DT880 pros now... I dont actually play competitive games, just for fun, but i also write music so i need something neutral, i also listen to electronic and orchestral... Choices like this are so hard...

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Seems like you've been looking for a while. Just make a decision and go with it. You've picked out two very high quality mid-fi cans. You wont be upset with either purchase. My opinion is the Q701 is the better can overall and is such an extreme bargain for the sound they produce.

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Seems like you've been looking for a while. Just make a decision and go with it. You've picked out two very high quality mid-fi cans. You wont be upset with either purchase. My opinion is the Q701 is the better can overall and is such an extreme bargain for the sound they produce.

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Not sure about that.. I know a fair number of people that would be unhappy with the sound either the Q701 or DT 880 produce. Some will call the former unnatural and/or hollow, and some will call the latter strident and/or cold.
 
And as a counterpoint, I feel the DT 880 is the more capable headphone. I think it would be hard to argue against the DT 880's versatility (if you're comfortable with the sound signature) due to the Q701's relative bass deficiency. They are both priced about the same AFAIK, though the Q701s are cheaper second-hand.

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Seems like you've been looking for a while. Just make a decision and go with it. You've picked out two very high quality mid-fi cans. You wont be upset with either purchase. My opinion is the Q701 is the better can overall and is such an extreme bargain for the sound they produce.

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I still have 3 weeks until I get whatever I'm going to get, so I have time to still annoy everyone with my constant questioning. 

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Not sure about that.. I know a fair number of people that would be unhappy with the sound either the Q701 or DT 880 produce. Some will call the former unnatural and/or hollow, and some will call the latter strident and/or cold.
 
And as a counterpoint, I feel the DT 880 is the more capable headphone. I think it would be hard to argue against the DT 880's versatility (if you're comfortable with the sound signature) due to the Q701's relative bass deficiency. They are both priced about the same AFAIK, though the Q701s are cheaper second-hand.

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My point is someone who hasn't stepped into that $300 open-can range needs to start somewhere and either of those aren't a bad place for that. Need to start identifying your preferences somewhere. As for the DT 880 vs Q701, I'm overtly more of a treble kinda guy, so of course, I lean towards the Q701. That's just my preference.

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Not sure about that.. I know a fair number of people that would be unhappy with the sound either the Q701 or DT 880 produce. Some will call the former unnatural and/or hollow, and some will call the latter strident and/or cold.

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I have a hard time figuring out what it means to be cold... Some say the 280s are some of the most cold headphones out there, but I still hear tons of emotion in them...

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I have a hard time figuring out what it means to be cold... Some say the 280s are some of the most cold headphones out there, but I still hear tons of emotion in them...

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http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary

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My point is someone who hasn't stepped into that $300 open-can range needs to start somewhere and either of those aren't a bad place for that. Need to start identifying your preferences somewhere.

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It's good to research and research some more to narrow down which headphone you think will be the best fit for you, but eventually you've got to just try them yourself though. 
 
There's no substitute for actually wearing a headphone and using it for a while.  That's why the FS forum here is always bustling and full of headphones for sale.  People just have to try them out, and if they don't like them they just sell them to move on to another headphone.  That's how Head-fi works, and it's completely normal.

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Its missing a lot of words I'd expect to be in there...
What I really don't get is how a highly detailed sound is not musical.... People saying that a headphone being analytical makes it bad... I don't get that. And I really don't understand how the DT880s are supposed to sound other then neutral. They don't have anywhere near as many reviews as I'd expect, and its hard to get a picture of its sound signature in my mind compared to the Q701s. Of course expectations will be off from what it is, but I don't want to go into these on a blind purchase...

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Its missing a lot of words I'd expect to be in there...
What I really don't get is how a highly detailed sound is not musical.... People saying that a headphone being analytical makes it bad... I don't get that. And I really don't understand how the DT880s are supposed to sound other then neutral. They don't have anywhere near as many reviews as I'd expect, and its hard to get a picture of its sound signature in my mind compared to the Q701s. Of course expectations will be off from what it is, but I don't want to go into these on a blind purchase...

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Well, I haven't heard the DT880 myself, FWIH it's not MORE bassy, just it has less low-bass roll off (almost none). I want to try them too, and a month or so back a local head-fi'er contacted me and wanted to share auditions, but he ended up being busy on the set day, and then he ended up not free the next week, then... he discovered anti-gravity and fell off the face of the earth? I'd still like to hear (and feel the comfort of) them some day.

Regarding why analytical USUALLY is anti-musical, the thinking is a lot like when people caution against gear obsession and lose sight of music and audio. If you're picking apart all the technical details and separating all the instruments, then most would lose sight of the effect of the whole ensemble, how they compliment eachother; and frankly sometimes when it's too tight and controlled, then it feels like something is being held back from ROCKING OUT!, and it's just not as exciting. My AD700 had it's moments where it had me really involved and could make some things sound startlingly realistic and present for a moment, BUT some music sounded flat-out boring, like the Arcade Fire's "Suburbs" album which mostly sounds AWESOME and gets my feet twitching when I listen with the Q701, and the HD202 I first heard it on. True story: I first heard the album on borrowed HD202s (cheap Sennheiser) while washing dishes at Panera, I listened straight through with the album on repeat well past the point the headphones started hurting my ears (they went numb eventually), but when I got home and listened with the fairly analytical AD700 (from the same iPod source), I got bored. That album never sounded very exciting on those AD700.

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like the Arcade Fire's "Suburbs" album which mostly sounds AWESOME and gets my feet twitching when I listen with the Q701.

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I love that album. My Annies make it that much better.