Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
May 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM Post #13,787 of 48,562
Well I have been listening to the AKG K702 Annies and the Schiit Magni for the past four to five hours. I have to say I am really impressed! These are a very well rounded sound, good bass and midrange and slightly recessed highs to my ears. With gaming they are very fun and still give you the details you need to sound whore. I am also very impressed with how they perform with music. I have to say they dig pretty deep and do it well. I don't know what you guys are going for with bass, but these sound right to me. I really wouldn't want more bass for anything, because they are putting it out close to how the recordings should sound. 
 
I really like these much more than the PC360s for gaming. I don't feel I am giving up much in details for the fuller sound I really wanted. I need an adapter to use the 360s with the Magni, and I do expect they will sound better amped. I will have to report back later with that. I will say that the Annies really need an amp. The difference with and without an amp is extremely noticeable. Doing the best I could to equalize the power from the mixamp and mixamp + Magni combined, the Annies really came alive with more power. 
 
Thank you so much to MLE. I started out with gaming headphones thanks to your thread on AVS. I was able to trust your opinion of the Annies based on your description of the Tritton 720s, then PC360s. It really wasn't hard to decipher that I would love the Annies after seeing how you talked about their sound. I got exactly what I wanted in a headphone. You are the man! Thanks to everyone else who helped me on my journey to this point. 
 
May 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM Post #13,789 of 48,562
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Ok, I haven't got an answer to my question :D
 
Which one of this trio?
 
Corsair Vengeance 1500 (165$)
Plantronics Gamescom 780 (102$)
SteelSeries Siberia V2  USB (170$)


None of the above?
Those all all mic'd sets. Mic'd headphones don't often have good sound.
 
There are many headphones you can buy less then that price that will have better quality sound, and then you can buy a mic mod to go with it.
 
May 24, 2013 at 11:13 PM Post #13,790 of 48,562
You should get the HD598 with a ModMic if you have a device with Dolby Headphone, it's an upgrade on the HD595/PC360.


I find the PC360 more balanced and less shouty than the 598s.

The 598 has more emphasis on mids, so it comes across more detailed, but they're very comparable in terms of gaming performance.
 
May 24, 2013 at 11:18 PM Post #13,791 of 48,562
Well I have been listening to the AKG K702 Annies and the Schiit Magni for the past four to five hours. I have to say I am really impressed! These are a very well rounded sound, good bass and midrange and slightly recessed highs to my ears. With gaming they are very fun and still give you the details you need to sound whore. I am also very impressed with how they perform with music. I have to say they dig pretty deep and do it well. I don't know what you guys are going for with bass, but these sound right to me. I really wouldn't want more bass for anything, because they are putting it out close to how the recordings should sound. 

I really like these much more than the PC360s for gaming. I don't feel I am giving up much in details for the fuller sound I really wanted. I need an adapter to use the 360s with the Magni, and I do expect they will sound better amped. I will have to report back later with that. I will say that the Annies really need an amp. The difference with and without an amp is extremely noticeable. Doing the best I could to equalize the power from the mixamp and mixamp + Magni combined, the Annies really came alive with more power. 

Thank you so much to MLE. I started out with gaming headphones thanks to your thread on AVS. I was able to trust your opinion of the Annies based on your description of the Tritton 720s, then PC360s. It really wasn't hard to decipher that I would love the Annies after seeing how you talked about their sound. I got exactly what I wanted in a headphone. You are the man! Thanks to everyone else who helped me on my journey to this point. 


I'm glad fo hear they're working out for you.

I agree on your description. The treble is slightly smoothened out for less treble fatigue, which makes them easy to listen to for many hours at a time.

I said it before, but they are like a more open and spacious HD650, which faster speed, and cleaner treble. I also feel it has better sub bass, though the 650 has stronger mid bass and the mids are a little more forward due to the more closed/intimate soundstage.
 
May 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM Post #13,792 of 48,562
Guess what happened to me while I was watching the game with my beloved Q701? I heard a slight rattle during a commercial. I immediately tested it with a bass heavy track. Then low and behold, a rattling noise...  
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May 25, 2013 at 2:29 AM Post #13,794 of 48,562
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Guess what happened to me while I was watching the game with my beloved Q701? I heard a slight rattle during a commercial. I immediately tested it with a bass heavy track. Then low and behold, a rattling noise...  
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Is it on just ONE driver or both?  If it's both, it could be a problem with the source distorting.
 
Here's what I used to diagnose mine:
http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
 
Go to the "Quality" test, aka the the "Bass Shaker" and play it at normal listening level and listen for obvious rattle in one side or the other.
 
Poorly built or extensively worn headphones may start to rattle whenever loud or deep bass content is played. The next file scans bass frequencies and will literally shake your drivers when turning the level up. Adjust the volume in your headphone so that the test is made at a high level: the sweeping tone should remain pure and clear at all frequencies, without any parasitic buzz or rattle appearing in one earpiece or the other.

 
May 25, 2013 at 2:51 AM Post #13,795 of 48,562
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Better call AKG.

 
I was going to but my gut told me contact Amazon, first. They are sending me a replacement right away (even 4 months after the return window).
 
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Is it on just ONE driver or both?  If it's both, it could be a problem with the source distorting.
 
Here's what I used to diagnose mine:
http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
 
Go to the "Quality" test, aka the the "Bass Shaker" and play it at normal listening level and listen for obvious rattle in one side or the other.
 

 
Thanks for the link. Definitely both earcups... with the left being overwhelming. It happened in the beginning and end every time.  I'm using an HRT MSII and E12 on my laptop. I tested all me other 'phones and they were fine (thank goodness)... so it wasn't my sources (again thank goodness).
 
May 25, 2013 at 3:45 AM Post #13,796 of 48,562
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Thanks for the link. Definitely both earcups... with the left being overwhelming. It happened in the beginning and end every time.  I'm using an HRT MSII and E12 on my laptop. I tested all me other 'phones and they were fine (thank goodness)... so it wasn't my sources (again thank goodness).

 
One my pair it happened and kept going all the way up to the mid-bass and back down again - only on the right side.
 
Hmm...I don't suppose there are any other Q701s nearby you can compare too?
 
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I was going to but my gut told me contact Amazon, first. They are sending me a replacement right away (even 4 months after the return window).

 
That's impressive....
Who'd you buy it from (seller)?
 
May 25, 2013 at 4:13 AM Post #13,797 of 48,562
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That's impressive....
Who'd you buy it from (seller)?

 
I bought it straight through Amazon, brand new (no seller).
 
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One my pair it happened and kept going all the way up to the mid-bass and back down again - only on the right side.
 
Hmm...I don't suppose there are any other Q701s nearby you can compare too?

 
I will be comparing it to the new one when it gets here on Wednesday.
 
Edit: As you can see I have been up all night looking for alternatives (should this happen again). Can I get some comparisons between the HE4 and Q701(w/ memory pads)? I know there is a difference in soundstage, but how much? A bass comparison will be appreciated. Any other suggestions (w/ a detachable cable) will be appreciated, also. I'm finally going to bed... thanks...
 
May 25, 2013 at 4:24 AM Post #13,798 of 48,562
The HE4... dont bother unless you have at least a Lyr. Seriously, don't. That is the most amp reliant headphone I have ever heard, and it needs more than 2 watts at it's impedance to sven sound halfway proper.

The HE4 is on the brighter, and more dry than the Memory foam'd Q701. Its thicker sounding than the Q701 with stock pads though. The Annie padded Q701 will have more bass presence

Its seriously like a refined DT880. Very slight mid recession, and emphasized treble (but not harsh).

Soundstage and positional cues don't touch the AKGs.
 
May 25, 2013 at 4:26 AM Post #13,799 of 48,562
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The HE4... dont bother unless you have at least a Lyr. Seriously, don't.

The HE4 is on the brighter, and more dry than the Memory foam'd Q701. Its thicker sounding than the Q701 with stock pads though. The Annie padded Q701 will have more bass presence

Its seriously like a refined DT880. Very slight mid recession, and emphasized treble (but not harsh).

Soundstage and positional cues don't touch the AKGs.

 
M-Stage powerful enough?
 
I'm guessing you're suggesting to just stick with what I have and hope for the best? I mean I do love my babies...
 
May 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM Post #13,800 of 48,562
Hey guys, in comparison between the Beyerdynamics DT 770/880/990 Pros and Sennheiser's HD558/598/600/650, which of them actually have higher clamping pressure?
 
I know that all Sennheiser headphones comes with their-now signature clamp pressure, but what about Beyers? Their Premium series don't clamp too much, but is it true that their Pro series really do put way too much pressure for many people?
 

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