Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Oct 30, 2011 at 9:58 PM Post #2,296 of 48,566
Yeah, I'm aware that I don't need to spend this kind of money for casual PC gaming, but I've got money to blow and I haven't bought enough shiny new toys lately 
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Well, I've gamed non-competitively on my 880 for about a year now and I haven't found the "blind spot" to be a bother--in fact I don't notice it, which is probably why I'll never be able to go pro, haha! There's enough bass in the 880, and if anything, you could always run it through a cheap DJ mixer (like I do, with my Xbox) if you want to fiddle with EQ knobs. I did for a bit. Now I just can't be bothered and leave it flat.
 
In the end, though, if you're just playing for fun--whether online or offline--I don't think you need to splurge a whole lot on amazing headphones. Was just at a LAN shop yesterday playing MW2, and their cheap Logitech headset (looked like this one) was just fine for locating people running nearby. If you do spend, the reviews here and elsewhere on the 'Net would suggest a good decoder is more important, such as the Ear Force DSS or Astro MixAmp.



By "advance audio processing" do you mean Dolby Headphone? I thought the RCA outs were analog, and you'd only bypass the card if you used the digital out. Apparently I don't know as much as I thought I did.


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If you hook up an external amplifier (HiFiMan EF5) to the RCA outputs of the Essence STX, you will bypass advance audio processing of the Essence STX and you will only get a really nice sounding stereo 2.0 sound.
Better to upgrade the 3 op-amps of the Essence STX and use it's built in amplifier.
 
 
 



 
 
Oct 30, 2011 at 11:36 PM Post #2,297 of 48,566
 
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Sound Card
I'm looking for a high quality sound card with a headphone amp I can use to power my headphones. I'll probably add a headphone amp like the suggested e9-10 at some point in the future. The best options at the moment seem to be between the ASUS Xonar Essence STX, and Auzentech X-Fi Hometheater HD. The ASUS card was build for stereo sound, is made with quality components with good isolation, and has Dolby Headphone. Its also powered by the power supply, and not the motherboard. The Auzentech doesn't come with Dolby Headphone, but generally has better overall features, especially for listen to movies. Its a hard choice to make, so it would be great to hear some opinions.
 
Headworn Microphone 
I'm also looking for high quality headworn microphone I can use to podcast and game with. It should have a 3.5mm mic input for the PC, and be able to fit under my headphones. My budget is between $100-200. Microphones seem to be the hardest to research on, since there is so little documentation.


Regarding that underlined bit, it's because X-Fi cards have CMSS-3D Headphone instead, which is functionally similar to Dolby Headphone. Whether you prefer it to Dolby Headphone or not is another matter; since you have a Mixamp and the Auzentech X-Fi cards have Dolby Digital Live for their S/PDIF outputs, you can use whichever one suits your tastes better for gaming. (I'm not going to say which is better just because I haven't had the chance to test Dolby Headphone in a gaming environment due to lack of Mixamp or similar device.)
 
As for the microphone question, this mic seems promising. One of the HTF600 users seems to like it. I don't actually have one, but it does seem like a nice way to turn any competent stereo headphone into a headset, and it's detachable to boot!
 
For headphones and amps, I can't properly advise you because I haven't really experienced much and don't quite have a clear grasp on your budget, though if you're considering the Beyerdynamic Tesla T1, that's one expensive piece of kit, firmly in electrostatic (Stax, Koss ESP/950) price territory.
 
Oct 30, 2011 at 11:51 PM Post #2,298 of 48,566


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By "advance audio processing" do you mean Dolby Headphone? I thought the RCA outs were analog, and you'd only bypass the card if you used the digital out. Apparently I don't know as much as I thought I did.

With a source using Dolby Digital 5.1, the 6 channel of sound needs no further processing, just converted to analog (with DACs) and then amplified.
 
I'm not an expert on these things (but I do a lot of reading on it) so feel free to double check anything I say,
With Optical Digital out, you do bypass advance audio processing, but you still send thru a "raw" Dolby Digital 5.1 signal (or just Dolby Digital 2.0).
Then whatever the digital 5.1 signal is sent to uses a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) to make it an analog signal
 
The RCA analog output is only two channels (right/left), Dolby Headphone 5.1 (or games that support 5.1 sound) is 6 channels.
 
With computer games, game sound engines like EAX, OpenAL, etc do processing before the digital signal is sent to the DACs.
Only sound cards can do this processing job, not external amplifiers.
 
With the Essence STX you can install the latest op-amps.
 
Tube amplifiers are nice, tubes add "warm" and "soul" to the sound.
 
 
 
 
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 12:11 AM Post #2,299 of 48,566


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With a source using Dolby Digital 5.1, the 6 channel of sound needs no further processing, just converted to analog (with DACs) and then amplified.
 


 
You're assuming a physical 5.1 speaker setup, right? Because if OP wants to use Dolby 5.1 with headphones there has to be a mix-down occurring somewhere, to make the 5.1 channels of sound usable on stereo headphones.
 
 
 
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The RCA analog output is only two channels (right/left), Dolby Headphone 5.1 (or games that support 5.1 sound) is 6 channels.

 
Does the soundcard simulate 5.1 on 2.0 if OP uses the RCA out?
 
 
 
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With computer games, game sound engines like EAX, OpenAL, etc do processing before the digital signal is sent to the DACs.
Only sound cards can do this processing job, not external amplifiers.
 

 
Or the Astro MixAmp, Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS, or JVC SU-DH1.
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 12:31 AM Post #2,300 of 48,566


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Hey,
I got a new PC a few months ago, and I'm ready to upgrade my sound system. My PC specs are below. I got the A40 Mixamp+headset a while ago, but I'm ready for an upgrade. I'm basically looking for a setup that works best for gaming, movies, and music. Gaming sound being the most important out of the 3. I'm starting to podcast, so I'd really like some input on some good microphones. I'll list what I'm looking for below.
Sound Card
I'm looking for a high quality sound card with a headphone amp I can use to power my headphones. I'll probably add a headphone amp like the suggested e9-10 at some point in the future. The best options at the moment seem to be between the ASUS Xonar Essence STX, and Auzentech X-Fi Hometheater HD. The ASUS card was build for stereo sound, is made with quality components with good isolation, and has Dolby Headphone. Its also powered by the power supply, and not the motherboard. The Auzentech doesn't come with Dolby Headphone, but generally has better overall features, especially for listen to movies. Its a hard choice to make, so it would be great to hear some opinions.
Headworn Microphone 
I'm also looking for high quality headworn microphone I can use to podcast and game with. It should have a 3.5mm mic input for the PC, and be able to fit under my headphones. My budget is between $100-200. Microphones seem to be the hardest to research on, since there is so little documentation.
Headphones 
I plan to get balanced headphones like the Beyerdynamics DT990 600ohm, since the score here seems to be the best out of all the options. I'm also interested if anyone could give feedback on the Beyerdynamic T1, and comment on if its better balanced than the DT990. Hopefully its 10/10 fun, and 9/10 competitive. I'd be willing to buy a used set if that were the case. 
headphone Amp
For headphone amps I'm looking at the Fiio E9-E10, as a lot of people have suggested. Unless someone has a different opinion these seem to be good enough for what I need. Maybe Auzentech Cappuccino Ex that's coming out this winter would be a good option.
Its been awhile I haven't posted here. I was one of the first individuals in North America to own a Philips SBC ATH1000 wired Dolby Headphone unit back in the day. I wonder if my old topic post is still on this forum. Wow posted in 2004:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/90618/dolby-headphone-solution-for-non-wireless-headphones
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With the Asus Xonar Essence STX, the built in headphone amplifier should do the job just fine.
Can't see any reason to get a separate external headphone amplifier (I'm not trying to knock the Fiio)
Nice thing with the Essence STX, you can spent $14 to $35 upgrading the 3 op-amps (operational amplifiers).
An external amplifier can get away with using only $6 worth of op-amps.
You can hook up analog  5.1 speakers to the Essence STX, as long as the speakers have a digital input.
 
 
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 1:07 AM Post #2,301 of 48,566


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You're assuming a physical 5.1 speaker setup, right? Because if OP wants to use Dolby 5.1 with headphones there has to be a mix-down occurring somewhere, to make the 5.1 channels of sound usable on stereo headphones.
 
Does the soundcard simulate 5.1 on 2.0 if OP uses the RCA out?
 
Or the Astro MixAmp, Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS, or JVC SU-DH1.

Analog (physical) 5.1 speaker setup, speakers that come with a optical or coaxial digital input, that have built in Dolby decoding.
I'm not a Dolby expert, I would assume the Dolby people figured out how to change/modify Dolby Digital 5.1 into Dolby "Virtual" headphone 5.1,
which I'm assuming tricks the human ear into thinking is getting 5.1 sound from a 2.0 stereo signal.
 
There appear to be on my Essence STX's control panel, a setting for Dolby Virtual Speaker for when the STX is set to "2 Speaker".
 
The 3 external amplifiers (Astro MixAmp, TBS EarForce DSS, and JVCSU-D1) come with Dolby Digital 5.1.
If a game's Audio Processing Engine was designed to work with Dolby Digital 5.1. those 3 amps would do the job.
I've heard that setting a game's audio setting to "Home Theater" works best for Dolby Digital 5.1.
 
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 1:18 AM Post #2,302 of 48,566


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There appear to be on my Essence STX's control panel, a setting for Dolby Virtual Speaker 5.1 for when the STX is set to "2 Speaker".
 


And this setting can be in effect even when using the RCA outs? That would contradict your earlier statement that using the RCA output would bypass any "advance audio processing", since achieving virtual 5.1 out of an actual 2.0 setup must mean the sound is being processed.
 
 
 
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The 3 external amplifiers (Astro MixAmp, TBS EarForce DSS, and JVCSU-D1) come with Dobly Digital 5.1.
If a game's Audio Processing Engine was designed to work with Dolby Digital 5.1. those 3 amps would do the job.
I've heard the setting a game's audio setting to "Home Theater" works best for Dolby Digital 5.1.
 

 
It oversimplifies things to call the MixAmp, DSS and SU-DH1 "external amplifiers". As discussed many times in this thread alone, they do more than amplify, and as amps they fall short if handling headphones that are as high impedance as lorek is considering.
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 2:34 AM Post #2,303 of 48,566


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And this setting can be in effect even when using the RCA outs? That would contradict your earlier statement that using the RCA output would bypass any "advance audio processing", since achieving virtual 5.1 out of an actual 2.0 setup must mean the sound is being processed.
It oversimplifies things to call the MixAmp, DSS and SU-DH1 "external amplifiers". As discussed many times in this thread alone, they do more than amplify, and as amps they fall short if handling headphones that are as high impedance as lorek is considering.

I Think i might have been trying to say when you have the a headphone hooked up to the external amplifier and the amplifier RCAs, to the RCAs on the sound card, when the sound card's control panel is set to "speaker", which enables the RCAs jack, you do not have any setting for "Dolby Headphone" just "Dolby Virtual Speaker", which may be only a Dolby codeing for desktop speakers, not headphones.
I could be that Asus thought they had put a good enough headphone amplifier on the STX, that most buyers would not feel the need to use an external headphone amplifier.
 
I've had my Essence STX for several months, using headphones, It's was only two days ago I got some analog 2.1 speakers hooked you to it. So I never really played with any analog speakers setting before. I had never even seen the "Virtual Speaker" setting before.
I did say if a previous post, "I'm not an expert, feel free to double check everything I say".
 
I believe I did talk about the 3 "external amplifiers" having Dolby Digital 5.1 features and the best setting for using them for gaming.
I really did not want to go into details on the 3 "external amps", because I would rather push for a sound card with the built in headphone amp. instead.
 
 
 
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 3:06 AM Post #2,304 of 48,566
Ah, that makes sense. So just to confirm, you can only use Dolby Headphone if you're using the headphone out on the sound card?
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I Think i might have been trying to say when you have the a headphone hooked up to the external amplifier and the amplifier RCAs, to the RCAs on the sound card, when the sound card's control panel is set to "speaker", which enables the RCAs jack, you do not have any setting for "Dolby Headphone" just "Dolby Virtual Speaker", which may be only a Dolby codeing for desktop speakers, not headphones.
I could be that Asus thought they had put a good enough headphone amplifier on the STX, that most buyers would not feel the need to use an external headphone amplifier.
 
I've had my Essence STX for several months, using headphones, It's was only two days ago I got some analog 2.1 speakers hooked you to it. So I never really played with any analog speakers setting before. I had never even seen the "Virtual Speaker" setting before.
I did say if a previous post, "I'm not an expert, feel free to double check everything I say".
 
I believe I did talk about the 3 "external amplifiers" having Dolby Digital 5.1 features and the best setting for using them for gaming.
I really did not want to go into details on the 3 "external amps", because I would rather push for a sound card with the built in headphone amp. instead.
 
 
 



 
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 3:44 AM Post #2,305 of 48,566


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Ah, that makes sense. So just to confirm, you can only use Dolby Headphone if you're using the headphone out on the sound card?

I would say more you can't use the "RCAs for Dolby Headphone 5.1"
 
Because you still have the option of Optical Digital output to send Dolby Digital 5.1 to something like the Mix-Amp, which does Dolby Headphone 5.1.
(Just to make sure I'm not leaving details out).
 

 
 
 
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 3:26 PM Post #2,306 of 48,566
PX5 update:
 
After continued use I am going to return these headphones and don't think I am going to get the XP500s.  The hiss in the headphones has become more of a noticeable issue to me recently than before.  Maybe it is because I have been subconsciously lowering the audio volume of the headphones, or that I have also played more quieter games, but I can definitely hear hiss in quiet parts of games.
 
 
Another big problem I noticed was that there must be something loose in the right earcup of this headset, since I hear a rattle on that side, which seems to come and go with the sound content.  It happens even at low headphone volume levels, and didn't seem to be reliant on bass-heavy sounds either.  Originally I thought it was the battery cover vibrating, but I removed that and still heard the rattle.  I also thought it was the loose buttons rattling from the sound (see my previous post) but even if I put my hand over the buttons to stop them from moving I get the rattle.  It seemed to be improved or went away if I held the right earcup tighter against my head with my hand or put my head against a pillow, in order to dampen any vibration, but obviously not an ideal setup for usage.  I can only conclude that it is a minor manufacturing defect in the headphones since the left earcup is fine.
 
I also believe I initially mistook this rattle for distortion in my initial tests of Bioshock 2, hence my descriptions of "severe distortion" in my initial comments.  Further testing with that game, however, determined that there still was some distortion in the sound not caused by the rattle, and that IMHO this game easily pushes the capability of headphones.  Ultimately I concluded that Bioshock 2 is a particularly challenging game for sound, as it seems there is a lot of bass-midbass range frequencies in the explosions and action that most headphones might have trouble with.  I'd be curious if anyone else out there had BS2 and could test their headphones on it, for the game seems like a good "stress test".  It has some very good ambient/surround sounds (in quality, variety, and directionality), as well as very challenging sound during combat.  FWIW I used the final level of the game "Inner Persephone" for testing.
 
I played some Halo Reach and the sound was a lot better.  I did not notice any significant distortion.
 
Wireless connectivity seemed to be fine for the areas in which I used the headphones, both sitting at my PC (in another room from the transmitting base) and on my couch.
 
One other problem I discovered is that when using bluetooth mode I could hear some extra "digital noise" in the right earcup (where the BT electronics are).  It was pretty faint but added to the already audible hiss from the transmitter.  Presumably, this would be audible if you were to use the BT radio to handle game chat.
 
Battery life was okay in my opinion.  During the 6 days that I have used the headphones, I have gone through 2 sets of batteries.  However, since I was doing a lot of listening in order to test the headphones, I probably put a lot of hours on them during those 6 days.  Both times, they were Eneloop AA cells (2000 mAh), however they were not freshly charged, so a little decay was present.  However since they are LSD cells I would estimate they were at least 85% full at the time of usage.  This is assuming that in general Eneloops drain down to 85% capacity after a month on the shelf, and then slowly down to about 75% after a year or more.  One thing I didn't like though was that there was no warning when the headphones died.  I was literally in the middle of a cutscene in Halo Reach when they just turned off.  No warning beforehand, and no notification that you have run out of battery either.  You have to try to turn them on again in order to get the message that the batteries are low.  It would be nice to get a low battery life warning so you can at least pick a better opportunity to switch batteries.
 
In general I would say that these headphones are pretty light on the bass.  Most of the time I used the headphones using the "main" preset, which has dolby headphone processing but no EQ.  I am not a basshead but was definitely left wanting for more "impact" in the bass using "main" mode.  Switching the presets to #2 or #4 (bass boost and bass+treble boost, respectively- both with DH processing) improved the impact of the bass to a level I was more satisfied with, albiet with slightly increased distortion.  I did not go through the effort to download and install the PC software where you could make your own presets, but I guess I could have created a custom preset that added a little bass without going overboard.  Listening to the headphones in their "neutral" state though, they seemed to lack bass.
 
Ultimately I don't think these headphones are worth the money, given the various issues I have since discovered since using them.  I still think they're the ultimate in convenience and versatility, but perhaps too many compromises are made in the build and sound quality in exchange for that.  It's really too bad since I love the usage of the headphones, just can't justify the cost for the quality.
 
So I guess I'm now stuck at looking at a mixamp 5.8 + headset route, and all the cables...  What options might there be as far as headsets with removable cables that you can switch for a shorter set?  After my half-week of usage with the PX5s, although they are conveniently wire-free I think that having an extra dongle wouldn't be a disaster, so long as the cable between the headset and the dongle is of an appropriately short length.
 
Oct 31, 2011 at 11:28 PM Post #2,307 of 48,566
EDIT: Decision made. I will give the Samson SR850 a go. Now i need to enable 3D surround sound (using Dolby or any other technology) on these headphones by buying a 3rd party USB sound card or mixamp. I dont think my on-board stereo sound card will suffice. I dont have any experience or knowledge about Dolby or mixamps so i would appreciate your help.
Which USB sound card or amp can i plug into my laptop and connect the Samson SR850 headphone to it and enable a true Surround sound experience (3D pinpointing of sounds in FPS games).
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Hi Guys. I would really appreciate narrowing down my choices after doing a long dedicated research with too many options in my hand.
 
I am looking for a Gaming headset to be used for FPS gaming and listening to some electronic music.
 
I mostly play: Battlefield 3 and Bad Company 2 -  Call of Duty Series - and other modern shooters.
 
My platform:
 
HP Pavilion DV6-6096 Laptop
Soundcard: On-board IDT High definition with BEATS Audio Technology.
Sound input: Three 3.5mm jacks and USB 3.0 inputs.
 
Requirements listed according to priority:
 
1) Positioning of in-game enemies in terms of DIRECTION(as close as 360 degrees and not just left and right)+DISTANCE. Distinguishing footsteps. (Similar to the AD700 experience)
2) Immersion in terms of sound clarity and detail level, richness of explosions and bullet sounds, and hearing sounds i couldn't hear before.
3) Plug and play: The Headset should be full functional when plugged to my built in sound card on my laptop. I dont mind buying a USB sound card that supports Dolby Surround if you name me one. (Do i need it?)
 
So I'm looking for a compromise between excellent in-game positioning (and 3D audio mapping) and a high quality bass rich sound in one headset.
 
Budget: Between 40 and 80 dollars max including shipping. I live in France. Dont worry about that, i just need the name of the One headset.
 
Narrowed down list: People on this forum suggested to similar users to get the:
 
1) Samson SR850: 50mm drivers. up to 30KHz response. Users on Head-fi claim it to have an excellent soundstage and detail level almost similar to the AD700 AND it offers better bass. But it lacks long term comfort. I am not sure about how well it performs in positioning the enemy (direction+distance); if this happens to be also covered decently by the SR850 then i am going for it. 49 Euros
 
2)JVC HA-RX700 (plus modding?): a good bang for the buck! Anyone can give more insight on its performance in FPS games?comes with 50mm drivers. 41 Euros
 
3) Shure SRH440: 40mm drivers, up to 22KHz response.Recommended by a forum member. More Expensive: 75 Euros.
 
A general rule of thumb was that I should get a Headset that has a good neutral bass which i can lower down for better in-game positioning rather than a headset with little or no bass which provides synthetic quality audio if I am to manually increase its bass. (like the AD700).
 
My list of candidates before coming to this forum:
 
4) Corsair HS1 USB: also offers 5.1 Surround, can perceive sounds from the sides but Not quite well from front and rear. It beats the Creative tactic3D sigma Headset (Stereo) in gaming due to its surround features. 76.9 Euros
 
5) Creative Draco HS-850 Gaming Headset: 0-20KHz ,  40mm. It has a 40% discount and claims to offer great directional positioning. Not high end. On sale @24 Euros down from 49.
 
6) Atari Live Gaming headset: low impedance, microphone freq response up to 16KHz, looks cool :p but no reviews. On sale @ 23 Euros down from 40
 
Based on your experience with any of those in the list, please help me choose one of those to match my requirements listed above. I am not sure if i need a true 5.1 Surround Headset for better positioning, feedback on this forum related to this subject got me confused.
 
Thank you.
 
Please send me your suggestions to my inbox to keep this thread clean.
 
Much appreciated.
 
 
Nov 2, 2011 at 11:56 PM Post #2,309 of 48,566
An enhanced version of the Superlux 668B is the Samson SR850. This is what you need.
 
It provides an excellent soundstage with pinpoint directional accuracy *users compare it to the 3D mapping of the AD700), AND not at the cost of a lowered bass. it has a better bass than the AD700 which makes it an all rounder for gaming. Ironically it is designed as a studio Monitor headphone for Djs and gamers discovered it by chance==>it is highly underrated.
 
Plus it only costs 40 to 50 dollars.
 
Read all the reviews on it on this forum and else where and you'll know what i mean.
 
(couple it with a decent X-Fi sound card with CSSM3D option or a Dolby headphone option for optimal gaming experience).
 
By the way, what do you think of the new Gamecom 777 USB 7.1 ?
 
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Ok I have done alot of researching and learned alot (or I am pretty sure I have) since I joined this forum to find a headphone. I am a competitive gamer, but I also listen to music like classic rock, and dubstep, rarely movies, and like to be immersed with
gaming(CS 1.6/CZ(don't make fun of me) ) as well as music. I would like to hear footsteps and wallspams in cs, and I also would like to have the best soundstage and imaging(directional pinpointing) available.
 
I have only had 20 dollar Wal-Mart headphones and a Gamecom 777 headset. I like closed headphones cause I don't want to hear the fan blowing, ect.
 
I have about $200 - $300 to spend on a headphone.
 
I have looked at alot of headphones, at first I thought I liked the AD700, I was about to buy it, then I saw the AD900, I was so excited i was about to buy that, but then I learned about how bass light it was and about how people were returning it because of that, which got me seriously researching because I don't want to buy one and be unsatisfied or buy multiple headphones (because I don't have money to throw around really).
 
I looked at:
AD700 - Read it was real good for positioning, had good soundstage, but was too basslight for immersion to really get into gaming and music.
AD900 - A little better than the AD700, but just the same about being basslight.
A 700/900 - Closed, good, but also heard the positioning and soundstage was reduced and the bass was better than the A700/900 but just wasn't good enough.
DT770 Pro 80Ohms - I then found this closed headphone, it was the headphone to get for gaming a few years ago (from what I've read) but some say it was just too bass heavy and the bass overpowered the rest of the sounds to get good positional accuracy and the sound stage (I know I have read that bass isn't good for that but people say it was WAY too overpowering for what it was)
DT880(forgot the ohm) - I found this and thought since it is semi-open/semi-closed, it would be really good, but then I read about people saying it leaks noise alot and how it isn't completely accurate in positional accuracy from behind or something, and that the bass is too light for the "immersion" like detail.
Superlux HD-668B - I havn't done much research on this, but what I have read is, people say this is a headphone up in the levels of the DT770 or something i think, and when I first posted in the other forum "post here to find a headphone" or something, Tacoboy recommended this to me. He said this is the one I should get.
 
After researching, I told myself I didn't want the AD700/900 or the A700/900, and i heard that the DT880 was semi-open so I wondered about how the sound leaked and that it was bad at pinpointing back directional sounds, then I looked at and researched alot more headphones and I think I am going to buy a DT770, i am just not sure about which Ohm I should pick, I will buy a Asus Xonar STX or a sound card and a dedicated amp (because I read that a STX cannot successfully power a headphone for maximum quality.) I didnt really think the Superlux HD-668B could be as good as a DT770 because of the price differences, so I couldn't really say anything much about that.
 
So I would like to know, am I making the right decision in picking the DT770? If I am right, which OHM should I choose and why? If I am wrong, please suggest a headphone and/or amp I should probably get instead of the DT770, and leave a reason why.
 
Thanks to all who gave me some suggestions in my first post, and thanks to everyone that will give me some good advice/suggestions in this post.
 
             Thanks so much for reading.
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