Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Jun 10, 2014 at 3:25 PM Post #24,046 of 48,562
  Bah... I get this odd sensation that my last port was just ignored...

Not a lot of people have experience with that specific combination of products and there's not a lot written about the HD280 in regards to gaming aside from MLEs review. I've seen numerous reviews of people complaining about the HD280s clamp though, so that's enough to write them off entirely in my book. 
 
Also, with all things in this hobby, YMMV. Additionally, this needs to be said too many times.
 
I NEED TO STRESS THIS. DO NOT COMPARE SCORES FROM ONE REVIEW TO ANOTHER. EACH SCORE IS REFLECTING A HEADPHONE'S OWN MERITS, AND NOT COMPARED TO ANOTHER UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY STATE SO.

 
Jun 10, 2014 at 3:25 PM Post #24,047 of 48,562
You were making a statement, not asking questions. Didn't know you were expecting a reply. Please forgive us, master...

Bah... I get this odd sensation that my last port was just ignored...


Hey.... at least this one wasn't ignored! Don't getcha' panties all in a bunch... :wink: happens all the time...


Not a lot of people have experience with that specific combination of products and there's not a lot written about the HD280 in regards to gaming aside from MLEs review. I've seen numerous reviews of people complaining about the HD280s clamp though, so that's enough to write them off entirely in my book. 

Also, with all things in this hobby, YMMV. Additionally, this needs to be said too many times.


^what he said
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 4:10 PM Post #24,048 of 48,562
  Not a lot of people have experience with that specific combination of products and there's not a lot written about the HD280 in regards to gaming aside from MLEs review. I've seen numerous reviews of people complaining about the HD280s clamp though, so that's enough to write them off entirely in my book. 
 
Also, with all things in this hobby, YMMV. Additionally, this needs to be said too many times.
 

Clamp as in squeezing your head too tight? I only had that for 2 weeks, but when I took them off, I placed a wide box between the drives and that spread them wide enough not to break. Now they are very comfy, cause no pressure around my ears, and sound terrific. Hand-band was a slight issue but only because I didn't take my time to properly put it together and once I did, it completely stopped falling off.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/588710/the-notorious-sennheiser-hd280-pro-review is a great review I just found! These headphones may not be as good as top-end Sennheiser headphones, but rating them BELOW Astro A40's and on the level of A50's is just wrong as both A40's and A50's don't even come close to HD-280's in regards to the sound quality.. Considering their cost, they are probably the best sounding sub-$100 headphones out there! Now they are like $80 and they outperform Astro A40's and Astro A50's that are 3x as expensive!
 
Is that the MLE review you were talking about? If not, could you, please, point me to it? 
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 4:19 PM Post #24,049 of 48,562
Clamp as in squeezing your head too tight? I only had that for 2 weeks, but when I took them off, I placed a wide box between the drives and that spread them wide enough not to break. Now they are very comfy, cause no pressure around my ears, and sound terrific. Hand-band was a slight issue but only because I didn't take my time to properly put it together and once I did, it completely stopped falling off.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/588710/the-notorious-sennheiser-hd280-pro-review is a great review I just found! These headphones may not be as good as top-end Sennheiser headphones, but rating them BELOW Astro A40's and on the level of A50's is just wrong as both A40's and A50's don't even come close to HD-280's in regards to the sound quality.. Considering their cost, they are probably the best sounding sub-$100 headphones out there! Now they are like $80 and they outperform Astro A40's and Astro A50's that are 3x as expensive!

Is that the MLE review you were talking about? If not, could you, please, point me to it? 


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Jun 10, 2014 at 5:33 PM Post #24,054 of 48,562
  Thanks for the great thread, I have read through tons of pages.
I have some logitech headphones now that I have had for a few years, they are falling apart so I need some new ones.
 
What would you guys recommend based on the following:
1. PC Desktop use - 80% gaming 20% music.
2. Mix of PC games not just FPS.  I don't play competitive matches anymore not enough time, but I like to get into a serious rumble now and then on public servers.
3. Powered off of Soundblaster Z
4. Wife gets bugged by a lot of sound, so they need to be closed or not leak sound real bad. I typically listen at lower volumes anyhow so maybe even with open she won't get bugged?  My current headphones if I take them off and set them on the desk I can't hear anything out of them while music is playing.
5. Does not need to have a mic I can add one later.
6. Budget? Would like to be under $200 for the headphones.

 
Sound leakage is a pretty minor thing, even on my Q701's.  I mean, my wife can hear that there's sound coming out, but at sane volumes, it's just a little background noise.  It's not even close to the same as, for example, listening through speakers set as low as possible (while still being able to hear it).  I wouldn't worry about it unless you plan on e.g. listening in bed at night.  For desktop gaming, shouldn't be an issue.
 
SBZ has a decent DAC and Amp built-in, so you'll get adequate volume from any of the "needs an amp" headphones.  Something like the Q701 sounds even better with an amp, but you won't need it simply for volume levels, like you would with a Mixamp.
 
SBZ also comes with a pretty decent desktop mic, so I wouldn't worry about boompro compatibility or anything like that.
 
So yeah, there are plenty of options under $200 that will sound great for your purposes.  I agree with Change that the SoundMAGIC ones might work for you (I recommend grabbing a cheap refurb off AWD).  HD598, Fidelio X1 (used), K612, Q701, etc etc.  Seriously, pretty much anything that looks good in the guide will probably work for you.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM Post #24,055 of 48,562
  Have you heard the Mad dog pro? I haven't been able to find much info on it :/

 
People who have heard it say it sounds pretty much halfway between the MD and the AD.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 5:47 PM Post #24,056 of 48,562
I asked MLE if Dan was going to send those in for review, eventually. Still on that hiatus, homie?

I've read it has a soundstage size in between the AD and MD, with the most bass presence of the three.
 
Jun 10, 2014 at 11:35 PM Post #24,057 of 48,562
   
I have the Xonar DG and it has an option for dolby surround sound, it has a built in amp for headphones up to say 100ohms.  

 
Sonny just before ordering saw that DG is a PCI card, dont have a PCI slot, have only PCIe. So the DGX which I read is equivalent to DG will really be the same? Should I go ahead and order the DGX?

 
Sonny, thanks for all your replies, I am now either buying 558 or may pick a used 598 from a friend who is thinking of selling them. It will cost the same to me, used 598 = new 558. I guess thats ok deal?
 
Jun 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM Post #24,058 of 48,562
   
Sound leakage is a pretty minor thing, even on my Q701's.  I mean, my wife can hear that there's sound coming out, but at sane volumes, it's just a little background noise.  It's not even close to the same as, for example, listening through speakers set as low as possible (while still being able to hear it).  I wouldn't worry about it unless you plan on e.g. listening in bed at night.  For desktop gaming, shouldn't be an issue.
 
SBZ has a decent DAC and Amp built-in, so you'll get adequate volume from any of the "needs an amp" headphones.  Something like the Q701 sounds even better with an amp, but you won't need it simply for volume levels, like you would with a Mixamp.
 
SBZ also comes with a pretty decent desktop mic, so I wouldn't worry about boompro compatibility or anything like that.
 
So yeah, there are plenty of options under $200 that will sound great for your purposes.  I agree with Change that the SoundMAGIC ones might work for you (I recommend grabbing a cheap refurb off AWD).  HD598, Fidelio X1 (used), K612, Q701, etc etc.  Seriously, pretty much anything that looks good in the guide will probably work for you.



Crossed my fingers and bought some Fidelio X1 headphones, wish me luck!  (it was on amazon listed as "like new")
 
Jun 11, 2014 at 12:22 PM Post #24,059 of 48,562
Crossed my fingers and bought some Fidelio X1 headphones, wish me luck!  (it was on amazon listed as "like new")
Sweet, can't go wrong with the X1 IMO. They're a great all-arounder and really fun. If you find the bass to be too loose, an amp helps.
 
Jun 11, 2014 at 2:25 PM Post #24,060 of 48,562
Question for you guys related to the XBOX One ... In the PS3/PS4 you can watch blu-ray movies with Dolby Headphone by switching to "bitstream mix" is there a similar option on the XBOX One that enables the same thing? 
 
Insight appreciated on the matter as Im trying to decide which system to get and this might just be the deciding factor as I watch a lot of late night movies hooked up to headphones... 
 

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