Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Aug 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM Post #15,886 of 48,562
What would you guys suggest for closed bass head headphones? (for a fan of the K702 Annie and X1's)

Any closed headphones that still do pretty well for games (positional cues, etc)? I know they wouldn't be as good as open headphones for that purpose, but any that still do it pretty well?


@Ero-Sennin :wink:

Not to be the guy but the M-100's are pretty much it in the portable realm with out spending a lot on the edition 8's. Fun sounding but still very accurate. Soundstage is massive! Highs and mids are super smooth and you can use them straight out if a player and get great sound. Amp them and they scale up quite well. Very impressive all around. They took over my MMX-300's as my gaming pair so that was a huge surprise.

Thanks,

:evil:

Edit:

Sorry not just for portable but for the money they are a steal. For under a grand closed bass heavy but perfect cans I would say TH600's Hands down. Only flaw is isolation isn't great but everything else is dang near flawless
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 1:08 AM Post #15,887 of 48,562
Just a note guys: Group buys and group-buy sites, including discussion of them is not permitted on Head-Fi. There have been major problems in the past with group buys in the past, hence the rule. 
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 1:46 AM Post #15,888 of 48,562
I thought I had escaped the Head-Fi/eBay trap at long last.
 
Well, now I'm $405 deeper in the hole, but given that it's something that usually goes for $500+, I figured that I had to try and take a shot at it.
 
If this works out...this could lead to a future MLE review, if he can cover the shipping costs that come with this sort of thing. You'll all know once it arrives...
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 2:23 AM Post #15,889 of 48,562
Interested in finding out what it is...

I assume it's the HE-500. Unless it's another 'stat. :eek:

I just sold my TV, so I'm not gonna be as in the red as before. I might return the E12 though, as I'm sort of happy with the X1 just off the E17. Not sure on what I'm gonna do with the MA-900 has I have yet to hear it for gaming. That too sounds swell off the E17 as well, but it's a situational headphone. I would prefer the HD650/Annie as my alternatives to the X1... though I wouldn't buy them again. I'd have to get another full sized amp again...

So i fixed a few errors on my CAL/HP800/E12 reviews on the front page.

If you guys haven't noticed, the CAL review is COMPLETELY new, despite having a CAL review up for ages.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 2:34 AM Post #15,890 of 48,562
Quote:
Interested in finding out what it is...

I assume it's the HE-500.
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Sorry, not the HE-500 (as if I could get one of those at near-HE-400 prices)...or any headphone in this case, though it will come with a headphone. Maybe two. That depends on how this next potential deal goes.
 
Regardless, the headphones would be as good as useless to you without it, especially since your Marantz SR5002's failure just eliminated the cheaper alternative. That should tell you what I'm talking about right there.
 
And speaking of TVs...after a decade of service, the living room Hitachi 43FWX20B is totally crapping out convergence-wise. I have a very good idea as to why...but fixing it is going to entail replacing a couple of ICs (soldering necessary) and making sure they don't overheat and cook themselves.
 
Too bad, since my family isn't in an overall position to buy a new living room HDTV, especially not in the 42-50" range. (And especially not with my demand for the lowest input lag and highest image quality possible.)
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 3:03 AM Post #15,892 of 48,562
Everyone's coming up with all these surprises, I see. I might just have to come up with one, myself...
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Edit: Who am I kidding... too broke right now...
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Aug 18, 2013 at 3:12 AM Post #15,893 of 48,562
I'm half tempted to get the Pro 900 again, and running it off the E17 with a massive treble reduction.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 3:37 AM Post #15,894 of 48,562
I've got something up my sleeve that not many people know about. I just have to find it from somewhere for a more  reasonable price because all I'm finding atm is higher than retail.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 4:18 AM Post #15,895 of 48,562
I'm getting the X1 + Astro MixAmp for gaming, would throwing an amplifier like the E12 between them make noticeable difference ? would the overall experience get boosted by 15%-25% ? more or less ?

 
I've been happy with the X1 and Astro Mixamp 2011. I do not have to crank up the volume to hear an excellent soundstage in Halo 4.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 4:39 AM Post #15,896 of 48,562
What I said on the X1 review. Again, people don't seem to ever look at the guide itself. :frowning2:

The X1 is quite sensitive, and I feel that for console gaming, the Mixamp alone is enough.


And boosting SQ percentages is impossible. No amp is going to magically boost SQ by a dramatic amount. It's more about providing clean, efficient power, for when going off weak sources is detrimental to sound quality. It's not about boosting anything. Don't believe that sort of hype. The only time that is true is when a headphone is very hard to drive. The X1 is very efficient. You can believe the hyperbole, but it simply is not a hard headphone to drive.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 4:42 AM Post #15,897 of 48,562
Come to think of it I'm actually really happy with what I have. I don't see myself getting rid of either the MDs or AEs anytime soon... even with the Alphas that were just announced.
 
Anything else I end up buying will be out of pure curiosity rather than an upgrade.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 5:18 AM Post #15,898 of 48,562
Hi guys, I'm here for a little help :D
 
I explain what I have and what I need:
 
My current gear is this:
 
- Mixamp 2011 version 5.1
- Audio technica AD700 + boom mic mod
 
 
I'm searching for a good Headphone for single player games and for non competitive multiplayer, which has good soundstage and basses.
 
I had a year ago the beyerdynamic DT770 pro 80 ohm (which the wixamp could drive good), but they had a little too much basses for my taste. 
 
My budget is 250 € and I wanted to buy the beyerdynamic DT990 
 
Now, my question is this:
 
Can the mixamp drive good the DT990 - 32ohm ?
 
Or is it better for me to buy the DT990 pro edition 250 ohm and pair them with mixamp + fii e11
 
Also:
1) Can the fiio E11 drive them?
2) Mixing it with the mixamp would get some noise or buzz?
 
The prices here are these:
 
DT990 - 32 ohm: 230 €
DT990 pro - 250 ohm: 130 €
Fiio E11 - 60 €
 
 
I really don't know what to do. In theory I would like to buy the dt990 - 32ohm but ONLY if you can tell me that the mixamp and portable devices can drive them without problems.
 
 
Thank you guys, I appreciate your help :D
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 5:23 AM Post #15,899 of 48,562
Get the Fidelio X1 instead. That WILL be driven nicely by the Mixamp alone, or by portable amps when not gaming. Even sounds great just off my Galaxy Note II.

The 32ohm 990 is harder to drive properly than the 250ohm. The 32ohm is louder off normal devices, but sounds weak as hell until you put some power behind them. the 250ohm is lower in volume but sounds more refined. This is why the 32ohm is a waste.

The X1 has a nice soundstage and good bass. it also sounds better than all the 990s, IMHO.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 5:34 AM Post #15,900 of 48,562
Get the Fidelio X1 instead. That WILL be driven nicely by the Mixamp alone, or by portable amps when not gaming. Even sounds great just off my Galaxy Note II.

The 32ohm 990 is harder to drive properly than the 250ohm. The 32ohm is louder off normal devices, but sounds weak as hell until you put some power behind them. the 250ohm is lower in volume but sounds more refined. This is why the 32ohm is a waste.

The X1 has a nice soundstage and good bass. it also sounds better than all the 990s, IMHO.

 
Thanks! I checked and the Fidelio X1/00 (hope this is the model) costs me 199 € Should I get also a Fiio E11, (it is in my budget) or I don't need it? (I own a Fiio E5, if is enough) Thank you again :D
 

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