joseph69 said:

 

bbophead said:

  Thanks for the mini-review.  I hadn't heard much good about the Fosgate anyway.
 
BTW, I'm not sure why you seem to be so concerned about where the volume control lies when listening.  Lots of volume controls are designed differently.  It has little to do with power.  In fact, the more rotation of the VC I have, the better I like it.  It gives me a wider range of settings rather than just 6 o'clock to 10 o'clock.  

Click to expand...

Your welcome for my thought on the Fosgate.
The reason I say this about the volume output is because from about 11:00-1:00 o'clock, there is not much increase in volume at all…but beyond 1:00-2 o'clock it increases again, but at this point I'm feeling I'm pushing the amp too much to get a sufficient listening level from the PS1K's for them too really shine, (every Grado has a sweet spot volume wise IMO/IME).o From what I've understood ANY amplifiers output pretty much peaks at about 12-1:00…and then starts too degrade/distort/clip, beyond 1-2 o'clock, and I dn't want too be so close to doing this, I would like to achieve a nice listening level at about 11:00 o'clock with plenty more volume output control too spare. Please, correct me if I'm wrong about this…but this is what I was told about amps my whole life in reference to the position of the volume control, and have also experienced this for myself on my stereo systems in the past. So I just want that little bit more output control with the volume. The Fosgate had sufficient output volume at 11:00 o'clock which continued to climb as I increased it, way before 1:00 o'clock. 

Click to expand...

bbophead said:

  I've never read that anywhere.  Back in the day, it was common for Japanese receivers to have volume controls that had very little range.  This was so the consumer would think that the receiver had a tremendous amount of power, as in, wow, I only cranked it up to 9 o'clock and it's freaking loud when the truth was, at ten o'clock, the amp was clipping the wave form.  One should not make any generalized statement about volume controls and power.  Each manufacturer has their own philosophy regarding this. Obviously Fosgate has a different philosophy than Woo regarding volume controls (among a lot of other things).  This might help:  http://www.avforums.com/threads/how-does-a-volume-control-work.1180595/
 
Perhaps someone else could chime in on this question.   

Click to expand...

joseph69 said:

Yes, like Jay said, it s supposed to effect the dynamics/sound-stage/height/faster/tighter/cleaner sounding.

Click to expand...

ch23 said:

Could the same be achieved with the regular WA6, if you use an external filter?

Click to expand...

ch23 said:

Could the same be achieved with the regular WA6, if you use an external filter?

Click to expand...

jaywillin said:

now that i do not know

Click to expand...

joseph69 said:

I don't know this myself, but there is a comparison between the (6 MAXXED) 6-S/E on the forum where this is mentioned.

Click to expand...

hpiper said:

  I guess now we know why you don't see a lot of people bragging about owning a Fosgate Amp, makes me wonder how much they paid that guy at Grado to say what he did.

Click to expand...

joseph69 said:

  Your welcome for my thought on the Fosgate.
The reason I say this about the volume output is because from about 11:00-1:00 o'clock, there is not much increase in volume at all…but beyond 1:00-2 o'clock it increases again, but at this point I'm feeling I'm pushing the amp too much to get a sufficient listening level from the PS1K's for them too really shine, (every Grado has a sweet spot volume wise IMO/IME). From what I've understood ANY amplifiers output pretty much peaks at about 12-1:00…and then starts too degrade/distort/clip, beyond 1-2 o'clock, and I don't want too be so close to doing this, I would like to achieve a nice listening level at about 11:00 o'clock with plenty more volume output control too spare. Please, correct me if I'm wrong about this…but this is what I was told about amps my whole life in reference to the position of the volume control, and have also experienced this for myself on my stereo systems in the past. So I just want that little bit more output control with the volume. The Fosgate had sufficient output volume at 11:00 o'clock which continued to climb as I increased it, way before 1:00 o'clock. 

Click to expand...

whirlwind said:

 
Hmmmm....maybe this is true...I have never heard that before however.....no matter where I have the volume pod set on my mad ear....I hear no clipping or distortion.
 
I am prolly just misunderstanding something 

 
 
The amp looks nice in its permanent home, Joseph.

Click to expand...

whirlwind said:

 
Hmmmm....maybe this is true...I have never heard that before however.....no matter where I have the volume pod set on my mad ear....I hear no clipping or distortion.
 
I am prolly just misunderstanding something 

 
 
The amp looks nice in its permanent home, Joseph.

Click to expand...

joseph69 said:

I've never heard any clipping/distortion either but just that I may be pushing the amp too its max before this occures.

Click to expand...

joseph69 said:

   From what I've understood ANY amplifiers output pretty much peaks at about 12-1:00…and then starts too degrade/distort/clip, beyond 1-2 o'clock, and I don't want too be so close to doing this, I would like to achieve a nice listening level at about 11:00 o'clock with plenty more volume output control too spare. Please, correct me if I'm wrong about this…but this is what I was told about amps my whole life in reference to the position of the volume control, and have also experienced this for myself on my stereo systems in the past. So I just want that little bit more output control with the volume. The Fosgate had sufficient output volume at 11:00 o'clock which continued to climb as I increased it, way before 1:00 o'clock. 

Click to expand...