Audio-GD NFB-12
Jan 12, 2011 at 12:49 PM Post #211 of 2,278


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Thanks for sharing! If I hadn't bought the NFB-12, I was planning on getting the HUD-mx1 instead, so it's interesting to hear that comparison. Do you think the sound will change a bit with time?
 

I think i read that Audio-gd gives the units some 40 odd hours of burn-in time after they're assembled. Im pretty sure the sound will change throughout the evening anyway as the unit warms up, it was a bit chilled due cold weather. Also my HD650's are a recent purchase, so between the two i'm confident i will hear some subtle changes due to burn-in, but i guess time will tell :)
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM Post #212 of 2,278


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This is the second review of the NFB-11/12 and neither has given me very much confidence. The NFB-11 DAC was compared to a Sony Blu-ray player and now the 12 sounding less favorable than a medicore Audinst. Oh my....
 


I think thats more on me than it's the NFB-12 sounding bad; i'm just not a very good reviewer :wink: I actually meant to give the NFB-12 a favorable impression compared to the Audinst.
 
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Now that the unit has had a little time to properly warm up and play for a while i think i'll add to my initial out-of-the-box impression that its safe to say that its a different beast than the Audinst. I initially listened with gain set to I, but ACSS is only active on II so i flipped over to that setting instead. I hear more soundstage, and the bass has improved loads. Its really fun to listen to, i think i'll be happy with this unit. Looking forward to hearing the impressions of others as the pre-ordered nfb-12's arrive. 
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 5:59 PM Post #214 of 2,278
I'm very interested about further comparison with Audinst mx1 because I'm going to buy the better of the two as a dac, I'll be using separate amp so the SQ of the built in amps are not of my concern.
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 6:14 PM Post #215 of 2,278
Keep in mind, the Audinst is USB input only. In case that matters.
 
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I'm very interested about further comparison with Audinst mx1 because I'm going to buy the better of the two as a dac, I'll be using separate amp so the SQ of the built in amps are not of my concern.



 
Jan 12, 2011 at 8:40 PM Post #217 of 2,278

 
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This is the second review of the NFB-11/12 and neither has given me very much confidence. The NFB-11 DAC was compared to a Sony Blu-ray player and now the 12 sounding less favorable than a medicore Audinst. Oh my....
  


 



It sounds like you misread the post comparing it to the Audinst (there's a missing "to" I think, as I think the poster was stating that compared "to" the Audinst, the NFB-11 ("it") sounds more airy and open....etc.
 
And I was the one who compared it to the Sony BR player. And my statement was the NFB-11 was slighly better than the (outstanding) Sony BR, which was slightly better than the great audiophile bargain, the Oppo DV-980. Let us not forget the NFB-11/12s are <$300 items, and include a DAC, preamp and headphone amp. And I would put the NFB-11/12 up against separate DAC or preamp or headphone amp in twice that price range. So, in my opinion, it is probably one of the best bargains I've seen in a long time.
 
 
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 8:58 PM Post #218 of 2,278
I reread his post and it does look like he left out that key word. Whew! As for the Sony, I guess we are at a point where consumer grade components have caught up to hi-fi. I overreacted because I paid $230 for a DAC that sounds like a $100 Blu-ray player and I am frustrated with Audio-GD's lack of communication since they told me mine would ship on two earlier dates, which it obviously didn't. I'll relax until my unit arrives. Thanks
 
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This is the second review of the NFB-11/12 and neither has given me very much confidence. The NFB-11 DAC was compared to a Sony Blu-ray player and now the 12 sounding less favorable than a medicore Audinst. Oh my....
  


 



It sounds like you misread the post comparing it to the Audinst (there's a missing "to" I think, as I think the poster was stating that compared "to" the Audinst, the NFB-11 ("it") sounds more airy and open....etc.
 
And I was the one who compared it to the Sony BR player. And my statement was the NFB-11 was slighly better than the (outstanding) Sony BR, which was slightly better than the great audiophile bargain, the Oppo DV-980. Let us not forget the NFB-11/12s are <$300 items, and include a DAC, preamp and headphone amp. And I would put the NFB-11/12 up against separate DAC or preamp or headphone amp in twice that price range. So, in my opinion, it is probably one of the best bargains I've seen in a long time.
 
 



 
Jan 12, 2011 at 9:06 PM Post #219 of 2,278
Shipping update:
 
 
We had arranging your NFB-12 now,and we will shipping out it within 3 workdays
Edwin
 
This is the 3rd date given, so I'll cross my fingers.
 
Jan 13, 2011 at 12:58 AM Post #221 of 2,278


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I reread his post and it does look like he left out that key word. Whew! As for the Sony, I guess we are at a point where consumer grade components have caught up to hi-fi. I overreacted because I paid $230 for a DAC that sounds like a $100 Blu-ray player and I am frustrated with Audio-GD's lack of communication since they told me mine would ship on two earlier dates, which it obviously didn't. I'll relax until my unit arrives. Thanks
 

 
I understand. I think that generation of Sony BD players (BD-370,470,570) will go down as one of those occassional products that sounds much better than it has a right to.
 
Jan 13, 2011 at 8:18 AM Post #222 of 2,278
So now i have had my unit for a couple hours, here is a picture of it:

 
 
First impression is, that there is no fatigue as before, i can hear a better soundstage and the base has improved a bit. I have only compared this to a Nuforce Icon or a standard macbook pro.
The Ultrasone pro 900 are a bit better and the sound close to when listing to my friends S.A.T CDfix and Vincent KHV-111 MK. So i think they do not need any better equipment.
 
Thats what strike me, is how good the Ultrasone sounds un-amped….(from a macbook pro) But with the NFB-12 even lesser quality mp3 sounds better then un-amped…
 
Overall I am positive, especially at this price range. 
So now i can save up my money for a new winter/ski jacket…. instead of more hi-fi stuff!
 
Jan 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM Post #223 of 2,278
How does the NFB-12 compare to Creative X-Fi? Right now I have X-Fi music and I would like to know how big improvement the NFB is.
 
Jan 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM Post #224 of 2,278


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How does the NFB-12 compare to Creative X-Fi? Right now I have X-Fi music and I would like to know how big improvement the NFB is.


I Will try to compare them when i home today or next week. 
 

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