Audeze LCD-2 Impressions Thread
Oct 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM Post #4,246 of 13,134
   
IMO, the Audeze’s cables are one of the best stock cables in the market and replacing the stock cable isn't necessary. Q-Cable French Silk was my choice and I'm happy with them. 

 
Haha, I actually bought a random custom I found on eBay, and I only did that because the connectors on this one are REALLY stressed. I honestly don't feel like getting into the cable rabbit hole.
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 8:24 PM Post #4,247 of 13,134
I know it is a dicey subject, but I would appreciate a number of honest responses before I throw down $300+ for cables and buy the wrong ones.
 
I need to get a balance 4-pin termination, so yea, buying the $80 Audeze one with a 4pin termination is an option as well.  It's just the stock Audeze cable is kind of long, tangles, and is kind of awkward.
 
So I am keeping my options open, and including a version of the stock cable. 
 
Thanks again everyone for your opinions!!!!
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 8:27 PM Post #4,248 of 13,134
I can't speak from 1st hand experience, so if that means ignoring me from here on out I'm 100% cool with that.
 
IN MY OPINION, based on aggregating everything I've read, the main difference is material, not any other jargon. If you want a silver cable, a copper cable, or a silver-plated copper cable that's the main thing to take into consideration, and once you've done that just snag one from a reputable dealer. Those $750 Cardas cables talking about... whatever it is they yap about? That's just marketing, or paying for the extra amount of hand-crafting they do. As long as it's good material (and look at what they say it's made out of), I truly believe a $200 pure silver cable is as good as an $800 one. 
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM Post #4,249 of 13,134
I know it is a dicey subject, but I would appreciate a number of honest responses before I throw down $300+ for cables and buy the wrong ones.

I need to get a balance 4-pin termination, so yea, buying the $80 Audeze one with a 4pin termination is an option as well.  It's just the stock Audeze cable is kind of long, tangles, and is kind of awkward.

So I am keeping my options open, and including a version of the stock cable. 

Thanks again everyone for your opinions!!!!


I'd say find a cable you find aesthetically pleasing and order it, but don't expect a miraculous change in sound.
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 9:57 PM Post #4,250 of 13,134
  Gang, I want to get some new cables to replace the stock Audeze ones.  Based on this Freq Response curve of my LCD2s with Fazors, do you think I should go with Copper, Silver, or Silver plated over copper wire.  I want to open the sound stage but not lose the low end bass.  I listen to Jazz, Blues, Rock, and Classical, all on Apple Loseless format through a Centrance HiFi M8..
 
THANKS in advance!!!
 
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/jjkuz/IMG_0947_zpsb884cb6b.jpg

 
Recognizing the potential danger of this post, my experiences have shown the following:
  1. A pure, high quality copper cable keeps the same signature as stock copper cables (which I believe the stock Audeze cable is) while sometimes providing slightly better resolution
  2. A silver-plated copper cable adds brightness, but is generally detrimental to the smoothness of the sound in my experience
  3. A pure silver cable brings slightly better extension / treble clarity and more speed / faster decay to the sound which may be perceived as reducing the bass quantity slightly so it's all a matter of taste, preferences and subtle changes
 
Ted Allen from Headphone Lounge makes really affordable cables without all the snake oil claims so it's worth chatting to him if you're not wanting to spend too much, but want plenty of options.
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 10:07 PM Post #4,251 of 13,134
Yellow Canare. :)
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 9:08 AM Post #4,253 of 13,134
  Yikes that sounds rough, and definitely not what I'm experiencing with mine. I can't say the fazors won't make them better, but I will say that the bass on the pair on my head has some serious oomph.
 
You know what I really wonder? This is not at all an insult to Audeze, but I'm starting to wonder if there isn't a good bit of variation from unit to unit. I mean they all clearly have the Audeze signature, but I'm not sure I believe that we're all hearing the exact same sound but describing it in such vastly different ways. I mean they do come with a response curve chart, and they DO change. Maybe the pair you had did have those problems.
 
I do know that the pair I got does not sound, to my ears, at all like the pair I auditioned before. I mean I have a bunch of posts on the matter back there, and I was wildly unimpressed with the pair I had tried. These, on the other hand, are lush and velvety. All I know is these are Rosewood, rev2 and pre-fazor, and the other is bamboo (no idea beyond that). I don't think my ears have changed drastically between then and now, I'm still listening to the same music and my gear is still of the same style.  
 
Then again, I'm also listening to these through different amps and DAC's, so that could certainly have a rather profound impact as well. Burson Conductor vs Schiit Lyr. TOO MANY VARIABLES!!


I have a feeling it has something to do with the ones made in that month, since that other poster who had a pair made in the same month said he has the impressions as myself. I mean considering Audeze has pretty much revised the LCD 2 once a year at this point roughly, I wouldn't be too surprised if this was the case. Because I just compared and hd800 and he-560 to the lcd 2, and I dont think it's correct to come out of that comparison thinking those two have better, harder hitting, more textured, better sounding, but just ever so slightly less deep, bass than the lcd 2. just seems off. Not to mention a headphone this expensive should at least be able to reproduce music to some degree of quality, meaning a kick drum is heard and a thump is felt/heard in the mix (like those other two headphones, and any other ive heard), just how you hear the mids and treble elements in their respective places. Honestly I wont know if my theory is right or wrong until actually listening to another lcd 2, esp a fazor model. so I'll update on this story when that happens :)
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 9:29 AM Post #4,254 of 13,134
  Come on now, everyone has a viewpoint here, anything up to 104 hrs so please explain how.
thanks.

OKAY, now that I replaced my keyboard with one that works, I can respond to this, haha.
 
I was trying to figure out what the heck your initial question was asking but I'm honestly not sure. Maybe rephrase it a bit?
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM Post #4,255 of 13,134
I have spent what seems like an eternity diagnosing and listening to mechanical sounds.

My lcd2 hits the spot like no other. They also hit the spot with my younger years rehearsing in a sound treated music room...they hit the spot better here too. Over all other headphones or speakers I have ever heard.
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 4:50 PM Post #4,256 of 13,134
I have spent what seems like an eternity diagnosing and listening to mechanical sounds.

My lcd2 hits the spot like no other. They also hit the spot with my younger years rehearsing in a sound treated music room...they hit the spot better here too. Over all other headphones or speakers I have ever heard.

 
Which revision do you have?
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 6:35 PM Post #4,258 of 13,134
  OKAY, now that I replaced my keyboard with one that works, I can respond to this, haha.
 
I was trying to figure out what the heck your initial question was asking but I'm honestly not sure. Maybe rephrase it a bit?

Simple really, 
What  is the actual reason that makes this type of headphone "open up" after around 100hrs, even conventional speaker manufacturers like B&W state that around 3 hrs is ample to free up a mechanical device, so ,  does anyone understand the why behind the affirmation of fact?
Anna
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 7:23 PM Post #4,259 of 13,134
  Simple really, 
What  is the actual reason that makes this type of headphone "open up" after around 100hrs, even conventional speaker manufacturers like B&W state that around 3 hrs is ample to free up a mechanical device, so ,  does anyone understand the why behind the affirmation of fact?
Anna

 
That's the burn-in question. I do not believe in it at all, HOWEVER...
 
http://www.audeze.com/update
 
Assembled headphones are being measured with Neumann KU 100 Artificial Head for Frequency Response and Distortion.  Before Shipping we have now added a long burn in test on every headphone with Pink Noise at average level of 95 dB. 
 
What this means is, whether or not burn-in is real, by the time any Audeze headphone lands in anyone's hands they're as "burned in" as they can get. Thus, anyone claiming that theirs suddenly "opened up" X amount of hours after they got them is absolutely incorrect. 
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 7:45 PM Post #4,260 of 13,134
Man, I have the worst luck with my LCD-2's, I love the crap out of them but this is looking to be the second time I'll have to send them in for repairs (dear god please still be on warranty). For some reason got home from work, tossed them on my head only to find out the left side has decided it doesn't want to play audio anymore. Tried resetting my Amp/Dac/swapping the cables but nothing.
 
I don't feel like I'm super rough on them, but they do see a freaking tonne of use. Super bummed I now have to use my old, roughed up M-Audio pair till I can figure out what I can do with them. What a crappy feeling :frowning2:
 

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