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post #31 of 235
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Well, I don't intend to make this into a review thread so general discussion is more than welcome.

 

I've just taken a nap in the RE-ZEROs with some of my favorite vocal albums (Vienna Teng, Regina Spektor, etc) and I am far more impressed with improvements in soundstaging and positioning than the low end (I expected the opposite). The ZEROs do a great job of portraying intimacy but they can also simulate distances fairly well. Not as well as the Phiaton PS200 and Senn IE8 that I've been using lately, but definitely better than the average mid/high-end earphone (which I couldn't say about the RE0). Still great clarity and detail for the money and absolutely no harshness to my ears (<10 hours on them still).

post #32 of 235

 

Wow. You get a well balanced RE0 and i-don't-know-what for only 20$ more than the regular RE0.

Since you can't find i-don't-know-whats anywhere these days, this is a great deal!

post #33 of 235
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Well, I don't intend to make this into a review thread so general discussion is more than welcome.


post #34 of 235

For me it is difficult to understand the decision to offer the Re Zero with balanced cableing. The very few balanced amps are pricy and owners may look at more ambitious earphones than the RE-Zero anyway. Still they have to make an adapter, because there is no standard. Or is there any amp or player that could drive the RE-Zero directly?

 

Even the envisaged "soft" adapter for the production version adds bulk, weight and tension. I mean it is all about portability and undisturbing cableing.

 

post #35 of 235

A good 3.5 jack to solder and there we go ; ) Not that difficult anyway.

However, it's true that the decision to balance this phone is quite strange :s

post #36 of 235
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Originally Posted by zappp View Post

For me it is difficult to understand the decision to offer the Re Zero with balanced cableing. The very few balanced amps are pricy and owners may look at more ambitious earphones than the RE-Zero anyway. Still they have to make an adapter, because there is no standard. Or is there any amp or player that could drive the RE-Zero directly?

 

Even the envisaged "soft" adapter for the production version adds bulk, weight and tension. I mean it is all about portability and undisturbing cableing.

 



before we go any further about why,why not. should and shouldn't ~~ i think we should 1st sort out the "SOUND" 1st ~~ once that sort out all the why and why not , should and shouldnt will left behind us

post #37 of 235

Because It will need that adapter, a straight plug would've been much better for these imo.

post #38 of 235

It's like the TF10 all over again..or their earlier production. right angle plug to an extension cord.

post #39 of 235

hmm the adapter i got is rather different looking

 

x2_1a976ff

post #40 of 235
Thread Starter 

Ok well now I'm really confused. That adapter certainly looks polished enough to be part of the final version of the product but of course it's not the soft adapter shown on the previous page. Any static with that one when rotated?

post #41 of 235

I'd like to see a comparison between the RE Zero and the SE535. Being balanced terminated with that ridiculous adapter just has me scratching my head...

post #42 of 235

ok... im really confused. Why is the adapter needed?

post #43 of 235

still dont know what head-direct is thinking.

post #44 of 235
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by iemmustiane View Post

ok... im really confused. Why is the adapter needed?


Because the RE-ZERO is wired in a balanced configuration, meaning that each channel (Left and RIght) has its own ground. On a normal TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) stereo plug, the tip is the Left channel, the ring is the right channel, and the sleeve (the part closest to the strain relief) is the common ground.

 

Makeshift illustration:

 

RE-ZERO Plug.png

 

The RE-ZERO is wired in a TRRS configuration, where the tip is still the left channel and the first ring is the right channel. The second ring, however, is left ground and the sleeve is right ground. As you can imagine, this creates a problem when you plug the RE-ZERO into a source designed for a (Left, Right, Ground) configuration since now you're not getting the negative pole for the right channel to make contact.

 

Hence the need for the adapter.

 

Edit: Fixed illustration. Big thanks to ClieOS and rawrster for the corrections


Edited by ljokerl - 6/18/10 at 11:07pm
post #45 of 235

Actually I think the TRRS is Left+, Right+, Left-, Right-., which mean an TRRS to TRS adapter should be Left+, Right+, Ground, Ground, which confirms to common standard.

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