Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Aug 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM Post #14,221 of 16,931
Updated the IEM Buyer's Guide with current prices, and added the dual-driver NarMoo S1 in the Basshead / sub-$50 section.
 
   
Thanks. I'll go for the Flux and see if I like them. Should be a good choice based on your review and my experiences with Siberia v2.

 
I think one of the reasons the Flux is not more popular is that the sensitivity is pretty low, but in practical terms it makes no difference except that you might have to raise your source volume a couple of notches compared to other IEMs. 
 
Aug 5, 2014 at 11:57 PM Post #14,222 of 16,931
Two questions: How durable are the Altone? I don't expect Dunu or RHA durability, but I'd like IEM's that won't literally fall to pieces *glares at VSD1(s)*. Secondly, I know this is off topic, but is there a way to convert my ALAC iTunes collection to FLAC or mp3 and put it on my Android device(Nvidia Shield handheld)'s MicroSD card?
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 12:29 AM Post #14,223 of 16,931
Two questions: How durable are the Altone? I don't expect Dunu or RHA durability, but I'd like IEM's that won't literally fall to pieces *glares at VSD1(s)*. Secondly, I know this is off topic, but is there a way to convert my ALAC iTunes collection to FLAC or mp3 and put it on my Android device(Nvidia Shield handheld)'s MicroSD card?

 
  you can , just google it , i use power mp3 wma converter .
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 1:07 AM Post #14,225 of 16,931
Thinking of getting the RE-400's but when I looked them up I saw them being used with portable amps. Do they sound a lot better with one, or would they be ok from just my phone?


Most iems sound ok when driven by a phone. Some do accentuate the inherent weakness of the audio components but better smartphones do generally sound ok. I doubt that Re-400 are detailed enough to show any glaring faults in the source. If used on the go in noisy environments having external dacs/amps the difference will not be as apparent sonically as psychologically.

Just my two cents.

TLDR: Don't worry.
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 1:53 AM Post #14,226 of 16,931
In that case they seem like a good fit. Thank you!
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Aug 6, 2014 at 2:17 AM Post #14,227 of 16,931
Most iems sound ok when driven by a phone. Some do accentuate the inherent weakness of the audio components but better smartphones do generally sound ok. I doubt that Re-400 are detailed enough to show any glaring faults in the source. If used on the go in noisy environments having external dacs/amps the difference will not be as apparent sonically as psychologically.

Just my two cents.

TLDR: Don't worry.

 
  really ? you think re-400 are not detailed enough , i would put it like not demanding enough , they are really good enough , not as much as er-4p but really close . not like asg-2 though
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, they are top end , not these .
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 3:14 AM Post #14,229 of 16,931
even if not necessary , just amped my re-400 and amping is good . has a bit more detail .
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM Post #14,230 of 16,931
  I think one of the reasons the Flux is not more popular is that the sensitivity is pretty low, but in practical terms it makes no difference except that you might have to raise your source volume a couple of notches compared to other IEMs. 

 
I feel the biggest issue is it's marketing and intended purpose. Unlike mice and keyboards, gaming headsets have a reputation of getting trashed when compared to similarly priced headphones. Even I was hesitant at first even though I was actually a little disappointed at how little difference there was between DT880 Pro unamped and my old Siberia v2. Sure, 880s sound better even unamped but that's not a "150$ better" even though one is a gaming headset and the other a borderline audiophile headphone. Then again I don't have exactly golden ears...
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 3:40 AM Post #14,231 of 16,931
  Updated the IEM Buyer's Guide with current prices, and added the dual-driver NarMoo S1 in the Basshead / sub-$50 section.
 
 
I think one of the reasons the Flux is not more popular is that the sensitivity is pretty low, but in practical terms it makes no difference except that you might have to raise your source volume a couple of notches compared to other IEMs. 

Good work on the S1 review! I enjoyed reading about it and your take on it since I've read a few others impressions. And thanks for the price updates
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It's funny that the Yamaha EPH-100 was just $93 like two or three days ago. It was between $90 & $115 for quite sometime I think. Then just jumped back up to $150.
 
I was wondering what would you give the Philips S1 and Philips SHE3580/90 in overall SQ? I know you're planning to do a review on HF sometime of the S1, though there's your S1/S2 review on InnerFidelity. I was just curious if the S1 was worth my time, although I am really really satisfied with my TTPOD T1-E right now.
 
Thanks in advance! 
and for all you do here on HF! Cheers!
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 4:51 AM Post #14,232 of 16,931
yup . i would too like to know about the sq rating on fidelio s1 and s2 .
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM Post #14,233 of 16,931
Two questions: How durable are the Altone? I don't expect Dunu or RHA durability, but I'd like IEM's that won't literally fall to pieces *glares at VSD1(s)*. Secondly, I know this is off topic, but is there a way to convert my ALAC iTunes collection to FLAC or mp3 and put it on my Android device(Nvidia Shield handheld)'s MicroSD card?

 
Time will tell in regards to longevity but the initial build quality on the Altone seems fine. It's a pretty basic design, nothing fancy. Put it side by side with T-Peos' sub-$100 sets like the D200R and you won't immediately know which is the higher-end product. But that's fine - the D200R has been plenty durable. 
 
  Thinking of getting the RE-400's but when I looked them up I saw them being used with portable amps. Do they sound a lot better with one, or would they be ok from just my phone?

 
I don't know about the RE-400 but I can see why someone would use an amp when running BA or multi-BA earphone from a smartphone. The RE-400 should be fine unless there's some glaring issue with your phone's audio jack (e.g. my old HTC Desire had poor audio hardware and sensitive IEMs would hiss constantly).
 
   
I feel the biggest issue is it's marketing and intended purpose. Unlike mice and keyboards, gaming headsets have a reputation of getting trashed when compared to similarly priced headphones. Even I was hesitant at first even though I was actually a little disappointed at how little difference there was between DT880 Pro unamped and my old Siberia v2. Sure, 880s sound better even unamped but that's not a "150$ better" even though one is a gaming headset and the other a borderline audiophile headphone. Then again I don't have exactly golden ears...

 
That, too. 
 
  Good work on the S1 review! I enjoyed reading about it and your take on it since I've read a few others impressions. And thanks for the price updates
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It's funny that the Yamaha EPH-100 was just $93 like two or three days ago. It was between $90 & $115 for quite sometime I think. Then just jumped back up to $150.
 
I was wondering what would you give the Philips S1 and Philips SHE3580/90 in overall SQ? I know you're planning to do a review on HF sometime of the S1, though there's your S1/S2 review on InnerFidelity. I was just curious if the S1 was worth my time, although I am really really satisfied with my TTPOD T1-E right now.
 
Thanks in advance! 
and for all you do here on HF! Cheers!

 
I have the Fidelio S1 rated at 8.9 right now, right below the RE-400. The smoother treble of the HiFiMan ultimately wins me over but the S1 is a great earphone for the money.
 
3580 I have at 7.8, again very nice for the price. Super comfortable, too. I will do a 3590 review for InnerFidelity soon - needed a sub-$20 entry for the Wall of Fame there.  
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 5:58 PM Post #14,234 of 16,931
ljokerl, to you, what is considered a satisfactory durability?
My RE 0 survived for one year and a half, my RE 272 12 months and now my GR 07... 2 years.
I truly believe that onlye the GR07 had moderate durability, while the others I consider awful.
I must confess, though, that I probably have the iems in my ears at least 3 hours a day.
 

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