Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM Post #12,077 of 16,931
   
The TF10 is pretty good, I would rate it above the X10 but a little below the W3. I really doubt we'll be seeing a TF10 deal again this black friday, though, now that it has been officially discontinued for more than a year. Plus, both the TF10 and W3 tend to be more v-shaped while the X10 dips down in the treble. If you like the dull-ish treble of the X10 these others might not be such a good fit. 

If they don't go on sale on Black Friday I may just get the re-400 with some comply eartips. Seems to be the best iem at $100 from the looks of it.
 
Nov 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM Post #12,078 of 16,931
yes,there is a fine line for transparency that can be crossed and that clarity and detail need to be balanced against smoothness and cohesiveness – otherwise minor imperfections can simply get too distracting.thanks
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Nov 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM Post #12,079 of 16,931
  can someone take a look? im rlly noobish
ill keep browsing this thread to try to learn more

 
I would just get a Yamaha EPH-100 as a single set. Good isolation and a good sound for Electronic music. However, if you think you're going to damage it, maybe it's best to get a detachable cable unit like the Shure SE215 instead. Doesn't sound quite as good as the EPH-100 but still pretty good and it isolates very well, top. Plus, as an added bonus, you can get a longer cable for it later.
 
Nov 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM Post #12,080 of 16,931
Joker great thread , i keep coming back and reading your reviews 3 years now.

I have a question . I own the re262 and re272 and i love both very much - amped with my arrow 4G they both sound terrific , especially for the money i spent to get them (50$ for the 262 -dont'a sk how , and 150$ for the 272)

My question is , which one would you pick as a worthy upgrade if i decide to kill my wallet once more ? let's stay up to 400$ , cause after that limit we enter CIEMs territory (the final destination remains the JH13 which must sound just like i want my fantasy iem to sound)

I like a sound that is balanced but not completely sterile , as you can see by my preference for 262/272 , and it should be something significantly better than those 2 iems in order to justify shelling out that much money (i wish i was rich like all these people who own 3-4 1000$ iems lol)
Thanx again and keep up the great work here
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Nov 15, 2013 at 12:33 AM Post #12,082 of 16,931
  Joker great thread , i keep coming back and reading your reviews 3 years now.

I have a question . I own the re262 and re272 and i love both very much - amped with my arrow 4G they both sound terrific , especially for the money i spent to get them (50$ for the 262 -dont'a sk how , and 150$ for the 272)

My question is , which one would you pick as a worthy upgrade if i decide to kill my wallet once more ? let's stay up to 400$ , cause after that limit we enter CIEMs territory (the final destination remains the JH13 which must sound just like i want my fantasy iem to sound)

I like a sound that is balanced but not completely sterile , as you can see by my preference for 262/272 , and it should be something significantly better than those 2 iems in order to justify shelling out that much money (i wish i was rich like all these people who own 3-4 1000$ iems lol)
Thanx again and keep up the great work here
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Thanks, much appreciated.
 
Unfortunately, IMO there is no significant upgrade to the RE272/RE262 to be found short of going custom. They are truly top-tier earphones and at that level it's all signature differences. It seems like the RE2x2 earphones are the right signature for you, so a large percentage of similarly-performing sets will actually be a downgrade for you.
 
Hey guys, could someone give me a comparison of the fidelio s1 vs re-400. My ideal iem would be rivaling a dba02/b2, but with a slight decrease in treble

 
The RE-400 is more efficient, warmer in tone, and boasts more intimate mids and a more in-the-head presentation overall. 
 
The Fidelio S1 has more subbass & bass in general but is also less warm overall and a touch clearer as a result. The mids on the S1 are less forward. Tonally, it is brighter and has more upper midrange presence. It is also more spacious overall and has a wider soundstage but gives up the intimate feel and more well-rounded presentation (in terms of depth and width being more even) of the RE-400.
 
For a decrease in the treble, go for the RE-400.
 
Nov 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM Post #12,083 of 16,931
Could we get a separate review thread for IEMs with mic and also with remote and mic?  My iMetal 590s have finally failed, the cord has a short in it, so I need some new IEMs with similar quality or better for less than 50 bucks, with mic and remote for both my iPhone and my Cowon D2.  I must have mic and remote.  I don't find a good review of the Cowon EM1 model.
 
I want some phones that have punchy but not dominant bass, mids that have presence, minimal siblance with treble that gives sizzling cymbals.  I listen to podcasts, XM, Progressive Rock, Indie Rock, Classical (no opera), Jazz, Fusion, Classical Rock, Hard Rock, unplugged, ethnic...
 
Nov 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM Post #12,086 of 16,931
I listened to a basshead iem for a few days. When I got back to my neutralish iem's I missed the low end on them, they have now less/zero bass quantity. They sound little bright. This was a few days back, and the problem is still there. (I listen to music at low volume: 5-7/30.)
 
It is hearing loss at the low spectrum, or it is my brain that plays with me?
 
Nov 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM Post #12,088 of 16,931
  I listened to a basshead iem for a few days. When I got back to my neutralish iem's I missed the low end on them, they have now less/zero bass quantity. They sound little bright. This was a few days back, and the problem is still there. (I listen to music at low volume: 5-7/30.)
 
It is hearing loss at the low spectrum, or it is my brain that plays with me?

 
It's your brain. Spend a week listening only to your balanced earphone and when you go back to the bass-heavy one it'll sound overly bassy again - maybe not as much as before, because your expectations have changed, but more so than now.
 
This is one of the reasons headphone/audio comparisons from memory tend to be unreliable, and also one of the potential contributing factors to "burn-in". 
 
  Have you try InEar StageDiver 2/3 ?
Will you add this brand in your review?

 
Yes on both counts. The SD-2 and SD-3 are currently over at InnerFidelity being measured and reviews will be published once I get them back.
 
Just FYI, there is a partial (and very optimistic...) list of upcoming reviews on the front page of this thread:
 
   
(001) Upcoming Reviews
 
A list of planned reviews, in no particular order
 
Astrotec AX7
Clear Tune Monitors WLS-5
Dunu DN1000
Heir Audio 8.A (InnerFidelity review can be found here)
HiFiMan RE-600 (InnerFidelity review can be found here)
HiSoundAudio BA100
InEar StageDiver SD-2
InEar StageDiver SD-3
Moe-SS01
Noble 4C
Philips Fidelio S1 and S2 (InnerFidelity review can be found here)
Philips SHE3580
RHA MA-750
Sennheiser IE6
Sennheiser IE 800 (InnerFidelity review can be found here)
Sony MDR-7550
Thermaltake Isurus
UE700
UE Triple.Fi 10
VSonic VSD1 (Innerfidelity review can be found here)
VSonic VSD1S (Innerfidelity review can be found here)
Westone ES5 (InnerFidelity review can be found here)
 
What follows are sets in my possession that probably won't get a full review
 
AirBuds
AKG K330
AKG K370
AKG K376 (brief thoughts)
Boqari Q1
Cardas EM5813 Ear Speakers (brief thoughts)
Final Audio Design Adagio III (brief thoughts)
Harman Kardon AE (brief thoughts)
Harman Kardon NI (brief thoughts)
HiSoundAudio Golden Crystal
HiSoundAudio HiPhone HP4 (brief thoughts)
HiSoundAudio Popo
JBL J22i  (brief thoughts)
Miu-Audio MR2 PRO
Noontec Rio (brief thoughts)
Panasonic RP-HJE120
Phiaton MS 200 (brief thoughts)
PNY Midtown 200 (brief thoughts)
PNY Uptown 200 (brief thoughts)
RBH EP1 (brief thoughts)
RHA MA-150 (brief thoughts)
RHA MA-450i (brief thoughts)
Sunrise Xcited
Sunrise Xcape IE
Torque t103z (brief thoughts)
Westone Adventure Series (ADV) Alpha (brief thoughts)
XTZ EarPhone-12 (brief thoughts)

 
Nov 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM Post #12,089 of 16,931
TF10 still on there. Keeping the hope alive.

I had some time with the Cardas recently and came away with much the same thoughts as you (missed them the first time around). It was a little disheartening.
 
Nov 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM Post #12,090 of 16,931
   
It's your brain. Spend a week listening only to your balanced earphone and when you go back to the bass-heavy one it'll sound overly bassy again - maybe not as much as before, because your expectations have changed, but more so than now.
 
This is one of the reasons headphone/audio comparisons from memory tend to be unreliable, and also one of the potential contributing factors to "burn-in". 
 
 
Yes on both counts. The SD-2 and SD-3 are currently over at InnerFidelity being measured and reviews will be published once I get them back.
 
Just FYI, there is a partial (and very optimistic...) list of upcoming reviews on the front page of this thread:
 

oh, you got the HSA BA100 too? some impressions?
 

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