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daemontentacle said:

hmm..
what about frequency extension at the bass level?
quantity aside, do both of them have similar reach down below?

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The TS02 might have a bit more just because of the greater bass quantity.

 
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I just want to say thank you for this amazing guide. It is, hands down, the best I've come across.
 
I'm also very psyched to see what you have to say about the upcoming Logitech/Ultimate Ears reviews.
 
Lastly, I've tried upgrading my M6s to the S4 and they sounded like **** in my opinion. Then I tried the 700X and they're far too uncomfortable and fatiguing to my smaller ears. I keep going back to my M6s, but i hate the over the hear design. I'm thinking the UE 700s will do the trick.. hoping.
 
I also want to point out your accuracy in these reviews. After using all three I have listed, I can confirm your opinions on all of them.

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'Upcoming' is a very flexible word but I'm glad you've found the thread useful. The UE700 sounds nothing like the M6, S4, or NE-700X but it's a good earphone now that logitech has lowered the MSRP to <$150.
 


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carfentanil said:

Thanks for the informative thread - to |joker| and all the contributors - among the most inviting on the forum for me. I'll be upgrading to the Sunrise Xcape, (but reviews have me leaning toward the "Impressive Edition" when(?) it becomes available.) I can drop $85 right away, but if cost is closer to $100+, I'll have to wait until July...

This oughtta knock the socks off of my much-abused Sony EX300... More balance, more precision, and more physicality...

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You've probably been reading about the old Xcape, which you can no longer buy anyway. In the near future your options will be the Impressive Edition and the Xcited, which are different from each other and from the original Xcape.


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I have also read they need a burn-in to "snap" into the eventual sound signature... Will recreational listening be sufficient for the process (and if so, how long will this take?)

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Sunrise recommends 200 hrs for the Xcape IE and 100 for the Xcited.
 


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And another fine interpretation. I think the highs fine if slightly elevated as they're not peaky. I actually prefer them to the 4p but I understand why the 4p has a higher sound rating. It is slightly more informative and deliniated but it's top is too much for me. Others will feel different.  

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I've never actually heard the ER-4P.
 


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niyologist said:

My friends are starting to take a liking of this thread ljokerl. They find it Extremely Useful.

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Good to know.

Oops. I see its the 4s you rated. I never heard that one but understand that they're smoother than the P so my comment was NA.

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goodvibes said:

And another fine interpretation. I think the highs fine if slightly elevated as they're not peaky. I actually prefer them to the 4p but I understand why the 4p has a higher sound rating. It is slightly more informative and deliniated but it's top is too much for me. Others will feel different.

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I don't, you're spot on.
 

Joker, how would would you characterize the response of your HF5 to amping by something like your iBasso T4? Is there any marked improvement when the source is your Fuze?

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scare said:

Joker, how would would you characterize the response of your HF5 to amping by something like your iBasso T4? Is there any marked improvement when the source is your Fuze?

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I've heard good things. Not literally myself but I've heard that they respond to a bass boost well.

Why is the Kozee X1 ranked higher then the Vsonic GR07? Care to give a little comparison?

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majin said:

Why is the Kozee X1 ranked higher then the Vsonic GR07? Care to give a little comparison?

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It's ranked higher because it's average score is higher than the Vsonics.
 

 
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Joker, how would would you characterize the response of your HF5 to amping by something like your iBasso T4? Is there any marked improvement when the source is your Fuze?

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I don't use the fuze a whole lot for testing or even listening - the J3 gets most of my portable listening time and of course the iBasso D10 is what I use for the majority of critical listening. The HF5 doesn't benefit a whole lot from amping with the J3 and the HF5 is actually less eq-friendly than the MC5. It's not a very sensitive earphone but I think it works well for portable use. Also, the T4 is not exactly neutral-sounding so it's hard to say whether it's the extra driving power that's responsible for the changes or the warm signature of the T4 itself.

 
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Why is the Kozee X1 ranked higher then the Vsonic GR07? Care to give a little comparison?

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The table is sorted by average score first, then by price, then by SQ score. The X1 is much thinner-sounding and more transparent than the GR07. It has less bass impact and less reach. In general the X1 is pretty dry and a little clinical-sounding. There's not many customs in its price range so I guess it's hard to compare it to anything but I think my HF5, for example, is the better-performing single armature in several respects.

Sigh......I can't wait until the Sennheiser IE9 comes out.
 
Frequency response: 10 to 24000 Hz
Impedance: 16 Ohms
Sensitivity: 127 db
Attenuation: 26 db (95%)
Connector: 3.5 mm
System: dynamic dual driver
 
Sigh....Good stats here.

 
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niyologist said:

Sigh......I can't wait until the Sennheiser IE9 comes out.
 
Frequency response: 10 to 24000 Hz
Impedance: 16 Ohms
Sensitivity: 127 db
Attenuation: 26 db (95%)
Connector: 3.5 mm
System: dynamic dual driver
 
Sigh....Good stats here.

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Stats don't mean anything next to actually listening to them!  Or at least some good, solid graphs.  It's interesting they'll be making a dual dynamic though.  Not many of those out there yet.

Oh great, another dual driver dynamic.  Can't wait to see Senns 'special' pricing for that.  I'm assuming another poor fitting 'discus' design.  I'd love to see them manage -26dB w/ a discus design and I would be shocked if the large bass driver isn't vented.  Call me skeptical.

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Oh great, another dual driver dynamic.  Can't wait to see Senns 'special' pricing for that.  I'm assuming another poor fitting 'discus' design.  I'd love to see them manage -26dB w/ a discus design and I would be shocked if the large bass driver isn't vented.  Call me skeptical.

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Do the senns not fit in your ear properly? They've been one of the most comfortable IEM's I've used so far.  The CK10 is definitely up there too.

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Do the senns not fit in your ear properly? They've been one of the most comfortable IEM's I've used so far.  The CK10 is definitely up there too.

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Nobody mentioned IE8s or CK10s so I'm not sure what you are getting at actually.  CK10 is a dual driver balanced armature, not dynamic.  IE9 is not out yet....
 

You spelt Research wrong.

 
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Do the senns not fit in your ear properly? They've been one of the most comfortable IEM's I've used so far.  The CK10 is definitely up there too.

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I think Anaxilus was referring to the Radius dual-drivers.
 


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userfriendly said:

You spelt Research wrong.

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Typo - fixed - thanks.