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why is choosing headphones so damn hard ****

post #1 of 67
Thread Starter 
I am trying to find a headphone for my music types i listen to rock, classical, pop, dance everything really but mostly them four. I will be playing songs in formats of mp3(250kb and above), ACC and FLAC. I want some bass but not exaggerated, how the artist intended.

i was looking at:

Grado - pros good for rock anything else, trance, pop ?, the bass frequency looks poor 20khz "Frequency response (Hz): 20 - 22,000 "

Sennhesier - thought about getting the 650's but they are mostly for acoustic

Edit: Ultrasone 2200

Sony MDR-V900HD

Shure SRH440

to many to choose from, my price range is £250 guide me Head fi!

Open to other headphone brands.
post #2 of 67
IMHO the Grado/Sennheiser comparison should be the other way around.

My SR325i headphones are good for accosutic (but not for rock) and pretty poor at everything else. The 325i's do well at classical, maybe jazz at a push and for the rest I'd choose the HD's.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/sr3...6/#post6367224

Me, I'm ditching my 325i's for a pair of Ultrasone Pro 900's.
post #3 of 67
Because:
Everyone's hearing is different.
Everyone's tastes are different.
And, everyone's budget is different.
Other than that...

Since you already know the benefits off multiple 'phones, do you think you'll ever be pleased w/1?
You can see people's sigs here & they contain many!

If you could pick a style what would it be?
And that's your answer; whither you could pick just one or not!
Good luck!

EDitEDbyED:
I actually had too choose the cans because of my BIG head!
Luckily, it matched my sonic preference as well.
post #4 of 67
It's so hard because precious few of us have any stores in the area (or HF meets) where we can actually go and listen to gear. Because of this, a lot of us blind buy headphones/Amps/DACs based on what we read here, and then end up disliking them and selling them over in the F/S section of Head-Fi, thus making even more people blind buy (because of the discount over retail that can be had buying used) which just fuels the fire even more. It's a vicious cycle.
post #5 of 67
to choose is a part of life
post #6 of 67
^ x2
post #7 of 67
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Originally Posted by NoobAudio View Post
the 650's but they are mostly for acoustic
I'd have to completely disagree with this statement. The 650's are extremely versatile. I'm finding my DT880/600's very versatile and perfectly good in the lower end. They pair easier with amps than the HD650 to my belief (from my friends' HD650+LD MKV). Either that or i just dont like the sound sig (veil is said to only be apparent with lower end hp amps).

I'd say the HD650's are more versatile than the SR325i from what i've read about the SR325i. Also read the 225i gets more love than the 325i here

However... What're you driving them with? The HD650's need a beefy amp..

That being said, good headphones will still sound bad from lesser sources/amps.
post #8 of 67
There are too many choices. I know that for many the argument of 'there's something better' haunts them. The fact is I’m sure there's always going to be something better, you'll find it $10 cheaper in a months time etc, etc.

I've just bought a Samsung camera for £189 from comet. Got home and they're going a lot cheaper on amazon, but at that particular time I really needed a camera A.S.A.P. The point is I've made a decision,

`My choice to buy the Pro 900 are a total leap of faith, but so were my 325i’s,. The 325i’s didn’t work out, so I’m on to the next thing.
sion and I'm happy with it. Let go of your fears, make a comitment.
post #9 of 67
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Originally Posted by Ninkul View Post
I'd have to completely disagree with this statement. The 650's are extremely versatile. I'm finding my DT880/600's very versatile and perfectly good in the lower end. They pair easier with amps than the HD650 to my belief (from my friends' HD650+LD MKV). Either that or i just dont like the sound sig (veil is said to only be apparent with lower end hp amps).

I'd say the HD650's are more versatile than the SR325i from what i've read about the SR325i. Also read the 225i gets more love than the 325i here

However... What're you driving them with? The HD650's need a beefy amp..

That being said, good headphones will still sound bad from lesser sources/amps.
You're totally right. For me the HD650's aen't the perfect solution, just a better solution than the 325i's for my needs. The HD's do need to be driven well.
post #10 of 67
I love Alessandro MS-1 for rock, acoustic and vocals. But I'm not impressed with how they do on bass heavy tracks.
I liked electronic music rather in Sony MDR-EX700 or Sennheiser cx300 mk 2 way.

250f is quite something. Have you considered buying two pairs? Eg one portable and good for pop/dance (Monster Turbine?) and one full size and better for classical/rock (some Grados or AKG701?)
And you'll have twice as much choosing ;]
pzdr
post #11 of 67
Honestly, I think the DT990\600s would be a great all-round headphone. I have the 250 Ohms version, and I think they sound great, other than some recessed mids. I hear the 600 ohms version balances it out a good bit though. The 250ohms one has great bass, while still having nice and detailed highs. Everything I can throw at them sound good - not that some headphones don't do specific things better; for instance, my K701 sounds better with acoustic-produced music. The DT990s still sound great with that kind of music, but just not as good as the K701s.

I'm getting the DT880\250s in tomorrow, so that'll be fun to compare.
post #12 of 67
I don't think it's as hard to pick good headphones as sometimes it's made out to be on head-fi. People argue over minutia and blow the differences out of proportion. Almost any mid to high end headphone does very well even with the things they're reportedly not good at. Just take into consideration your sensitivities, and try and match your headphones with your primary use and the secondary uses will work out well enough. You do need to consider your whole package (amp, source, headphones) and not just the headphones when searching tho.
post #13 of 67
The more finicky you are, the more difficult it is to choose since for a lot of the cans available, they'll not sound their best no matter what music you throw at them. However, there are a few that are very versatile. I fully endorse the HD650 as a versatile choice.... a truly special pair of cans. Their unassuming and humble presentation is their strength. Nothing comes at you with them, but they quietly and very effectively deliver.

OTOH, the K701/2's aren't what I'd consider versatile, though they do extremely well with some music. So your mileage would definitely vary with them, though they have a neutral sound in that they don't come at you or are laid back.

Grado's are potential all-rounders, IMO, even though their reputation seems to be especially high among the rock enthusiasts. Their sound is special in that, unlike the HD650's, they come at you and it's a love or hate relationship that develops with them as a result of that.

PS// I agree with grawk in that a lot of the trouble comes from indecisiveness coming from fussing over minutia. That's a hobby thing and shouldn't amount to a problem for an average seeker. The problem is that one comes here and asks for advice, only to end up starting a passionate discussion that confuses the OP into thinking that things are really more significant than they really are. One thing's for sure, the HP manufacturers love this since this leads to listeners ending up with more than one pair of cans.
post #14 of 67
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lorafenik View Post
(some Grados or AKG701?)
And you'll have twice as much choosing ;]
pzdr
AKG701... please don't haunt me again, yes i have had a good 'read' about them, also for consideration.

HD650's need to be driven, i will be using them with my computer so they will have sufficient power input. I am not keen on getting an amp as well :/
post #15 of 67
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Originally Posted by NoobAudio View Post
HD650's need to be driven, i will be using them with my computer so they will have sufficient power input. I am not keen on getting an amp as well :/
Could you define "sufficent power" I really hate that term. do you mean sufficent power to drive the headphones to your desired SPL, or the less accurate although more commonly used sufficent power to sound "not like ****". EVERYTHING that you plug into the wall has sufficent power to drive the HD650 to absurd levels. Not everything sounds great, or even half decent with the HD650.

With regards to the practice of running headphones with aspirations of quality beyond what one would expect for no effort (IE what came with an MP3 player) off of a source/system for no effort. WHY? On the one hand you are going out and seeking a really nice headphone, putting forth the effort to find a nice sound. This is great!

On the other hand, you have just said you dont really want to put forth any effort for the amp (and DAC if this is a computer based rig). This is lame.

The whole thing is very lop-sided to me. You put forth a solid effort looking for nice headphones with your left hand while your right is in your lap. Why not use both hands together? You get more done that way. IME headphone systems are just that, systems. Certain things work really well together, others dont.
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