Classical music: which are the most natural
Sep 20, 2003 at 7:46 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 50
AdamZuf

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[size=x-large]for those who didn't get it - you have to hear at least 2 of the above 'phones with classical music[/size]

[size=large]after you vote, please tell us why did you prefer your choice over the other 'phones you heard!
especially if it's upgraded HD600 over stock[/size]

i can see that we're getting votes for HD600 + upgrade cable. tell us which cable, smart asses!
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damn, i forgot to add the Etymotic ER-4S.. i asked a moderator to add it, i hope it will happen soon.
 
Sep 20, 2003 at 9:46 PM Post #2 of 50
DT880 - never heard
HD600 - owned for more than two years
HD600 w/ Equinox cable - owned for about a month
K1000 - auditioned for about 5-10 minutes
CD3000 currently own and have owned for almost 10 months


Having said this, I voted for the CD3K. The highs are more extended and better than the 600s and the mids are much better IME and IMHO. Classical tends to be more complex music that requires a larger soundstage and better imaging than the HD600 can provide. It gets congested when compared to the CD3K.

I wish I could help out with the K1K, but my experience with them is so limited that it would be stupid to say anything other than their extremely open design makes a very quiet environment a necessity. In my case the fan on my laptop is so loud that I wish that I had some closed cans that isolated better.
 
Sep 20, 2003 at 10:07 PM Post #3 of 50
very true. the sony's have lots of spacey dark air in there. it feels like it enables details to be seen in great resolution in a huge place. the frontal depth in the sony's is the best i've heard - sounds can build up a firm wall very far from you, that's amazing!!! ... the HD600 just can't compete.. IMHO.. nor the DT880, in that regard.

and what's "IME" ?
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Sep 20, 2003 at 10:16 PM Post #5 of 50
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Sep 20, 2003 at 11:39 PM Post #6 of 50
Quote:

Originally posted by AdamZuf
i can see that we're getting votes for HD600 + upgrade cable. tell us which cable, smart asses!
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damn, i forgot to add the Etymotic ER-4S.. i asked a moderator to add it, i hope it will happen soon.


Adam,

This is very interesting. I'm interested in the results as I would like to purchase a set of headphones for listening to classical music.

Thanks for doing this.


JF
 
Sep 20, 2003 at 11:53 PM Post #7 of 50
I also forgot to mention that if you read through my review where I did an A/B comparison of the HD600 w/ a Cardas cable against the Sony CD3000 using both the Sugden HeadMaster and RKV I still much preferred the Sonys. The highs didn't sound as good, the soundstage was much more congested, and the sax sounded artificial. You can find the review buried several months back in the headphone section.
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 5:34 AM Post #8 of 50
here's the link:
http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showt...ghlight=cd3000
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If you like a BIG soundstage with tons of air


hey that very much like what i said
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the sony's have lots of spacey dark air in there. it feels like it enables details to be seen in great resolution in a huge place.


well...you can't miss this with these cans..
my review of the HD600/CD3000/DT880/ER-4P & X is coming soon.
i'll get some different classical genre recordings and add it to the mix.

and thanks to Vertigo-1 for adding the ety's i forgot!
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 6:05 AM Post #9 of 50
My Top 5 Phones for Classical (random order):

* HD600 (with or without cable upgrade)
* W2002
* HP-2
* ER-4S (thank you, zeplin)
* Omega II

Honorable Mention: K501

(I've never heard the Orpheus or R10)

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(pretend it's an HP-2);
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(someone create an Omega II emoticon, please)
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 6:39 AM Post #10 of 50
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Originally posted by NeilPeart
My Top 5 Phones for Classical (random order):


random order?!?!

JohnFerrier,
welcome to the boards. always remember that there are "useless voters" that vote with no true experience of testing and comparing, there ain't enough people participating in the poll, and almost %100 of the voters haven't heard all of the phones above, including me (though i'll get there if i stick in here too long..)
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 7:18 AM Post #11 of 50
AdamZuf (shalom chaver, ani gam israeli),
It is too difficult to select 1 headphone for all of my classical music, as each performs better in certain situations (W2002 in chamber and strings, HP-2 for baroque and horns, Omega II for intricate pieces and woodwinds and ER-4S for nearly everything – the ER-4S simply lack a visceral bass, which I sometimes need). Overall the HD600 w/Cardas are my favorite, as they simply sound great with all classical music. While all the headphones I mentioned excel in this genre, the HD600 (especially with the Cardas) are the most engaging and rewarding.
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Sep 21, 2003 at 7:21 AM Post #12 of 50
[size=xx-small] Quote:

Originally posted by NeilPeart
....While all the headphones I mentioned excel in this genre, the HD600 (especially with the Cardas) are the most engaging and rewarding.
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[/size]I've heard all of the ones listed, and the HD600/Cardas is still my favorite, too.
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 7:22 AM Post #13 of 50
I have heard and owned all of those phones, only my HD600 was with Cardas.
Used a few amps, Fisher 400, MPX3, ZOTL, nOrh SE9,...etc
And I listen to a lot of classical music.
IMO, K1000 is the best. And the HD600/Cardas at second. CD3000 third.
Enjoy.
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 7:37 AM Post #14 of 50
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Originally posted by NeilPeart
It is too difficult to select 1 headphone for all of my classical music, as each performs better in certain situations


NeilPeart, shalom! good to see other israelies in here..but too bad your not in israel for us to meet!
it's a good point what you got there. would be nice if other voters will comment if they tend to listen to a specific classical genre.

MoLtoSoLo,
how low do you think the K 1000 can go?
 
Sep 21, 2003 at 7:41 AM Post #15 of 50
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Originally posted by jude
I've heard all of the ones listed, and the HD600/Cardas is still my favorite, too.


which of them did you hear on a setup as good as the one the HD600/Cardas are connected to? (where's that Blockhead on your sig, excuse me?)
 
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