Sennheiser RS160, 170 ,180... Anyone?
Jan 10, 2015 at 11:50 PM Post #466 of 633
interested in these.
 
on the website it looks like you have to switch between bass boost and surround modes (both can't be activated at the same time). i was under the impression (perhaps incorrect?) both could be used at the same time on the RS170 (although whether one would want to, not sure, because i think i remember reading people recommending against the surround mode).
 
i am a basshead and watch a lot of movies, hence my interest. i had always intended getting a RS17+TX180 or RS180+TX170, but maybe i'll get one of these.
 
Jan 14, 2015 at 9:19 AM Post #467 of 633
  Hi everyone,
 
Just want to inform that we've launched our new RS line at CES 2015. Here's the press release:
 
Your sound, set free
Sennheiser’s new RS line defines a new standard in digital wireless home audio
 
Las Vegas, 6 January 2015 – Wireless and compromise free: The next generation of Sennheiser’s RS line, launched at CES creates a new performance benchmark for digital wireless home audio. Powered by a new class-leading, proprietary wireless link technology, the RS 165, RS 175, RS 185 and RS 195 deliver best interference-free sound.
 
 
“Whether you’re enjoying home cinema, or seeking to catch every detail of your favourite music, digital wireless sets your entertainment free  – letting you immerse yourself in sound,” said Oliver Berg, Product Manager at Sennheiser electronic. “As the leader in the digital wireless headphone market, we are taking this vision even further with our new RS range. Combining state-of-the-art wireless technology with our expertise in high-performance wireless audio, the headphones deliver authentic sound at the highest ranges. With great design and supreme comfort, they create a personal experience to treasure.”
 
Sennheiser’s new proprietary wireless link technology delivers class-leading performance for wireless headphones: Operating on the 2.4 GHz band, it offers highly reliable connectivity with low latency and excellent range - with the RS 165 offering up to a 30 meters range and the RS 175, RS 185 and RS 195 letting users enjoy their entertainment at up to 100 meters from the transmitter.
 
“Through everyday life and also today’s technology-rich environment, our homes are ever more noisy in every sense. Using advanced digital wireless audio transmission technology ensures we can deliver high-quality sound for a great personal experience while, behind the scenes, efficient management of bandwidth ensures effortless co-existence with existing radio equipment in your home, for best interference-free listening,” said Oliver Berg.
 
Four models for different demands
 
 
Each new model offers a distinct sound experience to address different needs and tastes: The RS 165 provides a vibrant listening experience with optional bass boost. The RS 175 offers even greater involvement in the home entertainment experience, with its choice of virtual surround sound modes and switchable dynamic bass.
Delivering a rich yet balanced sound for the ultimate listening experience, the RS 185 – which, unlike the other new models features an open design – provides incredibly detailed, uncompressed sound for optimal wire-free HiFi-listening. It also offers a manual input level control for perfectly tailored unaltered sound. 
 
With the RS 195, Sennheiser has expanded its wireless range to provide a high performing solution that can also help address specific personal hearing needs. Dedicated pre-sets and modes can increase speech intelligibility and tailor the sound to the user’s preferences to enhance the listening experience, whether watching TV or listening to music. The new headphones offer optional digital optical inputs available on the RS 175, RS 185 and RS 195.
 
Designed for modern homes and modern lives
Sculpted in clean, elegant lines, the headphones and transmitters with charging function share a discrete, premium aesthetic that aligns form and function.
 
All headphones in the range feature plug-and-play setup, simple intuitive controls, and easy charging for up to 18 hours of listening. An around-ear design provides excellent levels of comfort for even long periods of use, making them the perfect companion to home audio video systems.
 
The new RS digital wireless headphones will be available starting from January.

 
So just as a clarification, is the new standard incompatible with your previous KLEER headphones? Considering the numbering schemes start with 1 (185 and 180. Different from the 220 for sure (Which used a different standard)).
 
Jan 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM Post #468 of 633
  interested in these.
 
on the website it looks like you have to switch between bass boost and surround modes (both can't be activated at the same time). i was under the impression (perhaps incorrect?) both could be used at the same time on the RS170 (although whether one would want to, not sure, because i think i remember reading people recommending against the surround mode).
 
i am a basshead and watch a lot of movies, hence my interest. i had always intended getting a RS17+TX180 or RS180+TX170, but maybe i'll get one of these.


I'm a RS170 owner and bass boost + surround can be used at the same time. Surround is OK for films etc. but affects the stereo image too much for music (the centre gets moved to one side on mine).
 
   
So just as a clarification, is the new standard incompatible with your previous KLEER headphones? Considering the numbering schemes start with 1 (185 and 180. Different from the 220 for sure (Which used a different standard)).

 
 
I've spoken to Sennheiser UK's technical people following a similar query and there is no compatibility between the Kleer models and these new ones. It might be that Sennheiser has developed it's own wireless method, where it had to license the Kleer technology before. Well that's my theory. There's still a maximum of 4 headsets per base unit so it's not a million miles away.
 
Jan 15, 2015 at 1:20 AM Post #469 of 633
 
I'm a RS170 owner and bass boost + surround can be used at the same time. Surround is OK for films etc. but affects the stereo image too much for music (the centre gets moved to one side on mine).
 
 
 
I've spoken to Sennheiser UK's technical people following a similar query and there is no compatibility between the Kleer models and these new ones. It might be that Sennheiser has developed it's own wireless method, where it had to license the Kleer technology before. Well that's my theory. There's still a maximum of 4 headsets per base unit so it's not a million miles away.

 
Has Sennheiser released any dates on when we could just get the cans without the receiver?
 
Jan 15, 2015 at 1:24 AM Post #470 of 633
   
So just as a clarification, is the new standard incompatible with your previous KLEER headphones? Considering the numbering schemes start with 1 (185 and 180. Different from the 220 for sure (Which used a different standard)).

 
 
I've spoken to Sennheiser UK's technical people following a similar query and there is no compatibility between the Kleer models and these new ones. It might be that Sennheiser has developed it's own wireless method, where it had to license the Kleer technology before. Well that's my theory. There's still a maximum of 4 headsets per base unit so it's not a million miles away.

 
You can use the HDR 165, HDR 175 and HDR 185 headphones with an RS 1x5 transmitter. Other Sennheiser wireless headphones (e.g. RS 11x series, RS 12x series, RS 160, RS 170, RS 180, RS 220) are not compatible with the RS 1x5 and cannot be used.

 
For the new models, you may pair up to 2 headsets per transmitter. This is lower compared to the RS 160/170/180 models but it helps to increase link stability.
 
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Jan 15, 2015 at 2:40 AM Post #471 of 633
 
I'm a RS170 owner and bass boost + surround can be used at the same time. Surround is OK for films etc. but affects the stereo image too much for music (the centre gets moved to one side on mine).

 
 
yeah, i would only use surround for movies (not music). and the bass boost would probably be handy for explosions and stuff too! :)
 
hopefully the new models DO allow both to be activated at the same time! Are you able to confirm that, Rosmadi?
 
 
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  I've spoken to Sennheiser UK's technical people following a similar query and there is no compatibility between the Kleer models and these new ones. It might be that Sennheiser has developed it's own wireless method, where it had to license the Kleer technology before. Well that's my theory. There's still a maximum of 4 headsets per base unit so it's not a million miles away.

 
ah interesting! I didn't even notice that these new models aren't using KLEER (i just assumed they were). I would be interested in what the new technology is, and how it stacks up!
 
Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 AM Post #472 of 633
 
 
yeah, i would only use surround for movies (not music). and the bass boost would probably be handy for explosions and stuff too! :)
 
hopefully the new models DO allow both to be activated at the same time! Are you able to confirm that, Rosmadi?

 
Yes, you may activate both bass boost and surround sound at the same time. Plus, the RS 175 offers two surround sound modes. 
 
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Jan 17, 2015 at 6:12 PM Post #474 of 633
Hi all,
 
I currently have a RS180 set and love them. I now want to buy an extra pair of headphones for my wife for use while out 1 year old is in bed and we watch TV and movies. I will be using the 180's as I like the sound of the open back. The wife is not too bothered but wants them to be as comfy as the 180's
 
So the question really is are the HDR160's and HDR170's as comfy as the 180's? I know they are leather where thte 180's are soft but can anyone advise please? Easy option is to buy the 160's as they are the cheapest but what do you think?
 
Jan 20, 2015 at 4:10 AM Post #475 of 633
The 170 is the same shape and size along with the 160 model - you can also get the 180 velour earpads (part 534469) so you have the same design in terms of fit/comfort.
 
I have the 170 and have done this, I prefer the velour too. You can use the 160 model but this won't be able to be charged on the stand. The HDR170 will.
 
Jan 20, 2015 at 7:40 PM Post #476 of 633
The ear pads on the 170 are crap...especially for what the headphones cost.  The 180 pads upgrade is definitely worthwhile.  Unfortunately, the part number listed in Senn's catalog is inaccurate for the 180 so do use the part number listed by SteveHiFi.  I ordered them directly from Senn and they're only $19, but end up being $31 by the time you have them delivered and with tax.  If you use the 170's regularly, the upgraded pads are WELL worth it.
 
HS
 
Jan 21, 2015 at 8:43 AM Post #477 of 633
Hi,
 
I am in the market for a closed wireless headphone, I see that the Sennheiser RS 170 is getting very good reviews but now there is the new RS 175 and the RS 170 are on a discount price (The Netherlands) for €145,00 vs €249,00 for the RS 175.
 
Gan anybody give me advice for witch one to get and the pro's and con's between theme?
 
Jan 21, 2015 at 2:45 PM Post #478 of 633
I had a phone call with Senheiser (NL) today and they told me that the big difference between the 170 and the new 175 is the wireless transmission,
the 170 use Kleer's uncompressed audio transmission technologie and the new 175 use a transmissie technologie designed by Sennheiser.
 
They told me that they where aware of the connection problems with the Kleer's system when other wifi signals are also around, now with there own
transmissie technologie the sound and problem free connection is much improved, also the buzz on low levels are gone now. 
 
When the 175 will be on stock I for sure will buy one :)
 
Jan 21, 2015 at 3:51 PM Post #479 of 633
  I had a phone call with Senheiser (NL) today and they told me that the big difference between the 170 and the new 175 is the wireless transmission,
the 170 use Kleer's uncompressed audio transmission technologie and the new 175 use a transmissie technologie designed by Sennheiser.
 
They told me that they where aware of the connection problems with the Kleer's system when other wifi signals are also around, now with there own
transmissie technologie the sound and problem free connection is much improved, also the buzz on low levels are gone now. 
 
When the 175 will be on stock I for sure will buy one :)

 
That's interesting.  I use the 170 and I have WiFi not very far away, including feeding my Sonos Connect that's in the same room.  Never had any of the issues Senn noted at all.
 
At least they won't have to pay for the KLEER technology licensing now :wink:
 
HS
 
Jan 22, 2015 at 6:08 AM Post #480 of 633
  They told me that they where aware of the connection problems with the Kleer's system when other wifi signals are also around, now with there own
transmissie technologie the sound and problem free connection is much improved, also the buzz on low levels are gone now. 
 

 
Thanks for clearing that up, I assumed they had done something like that. As above, I've had no problems with the RS170 in terms of interference either.
 

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