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post #136 of 1528
6/16/09 at 5:24pm
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6/16/09 at 5:27pm
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post #138 of 1528
6/16/09 at 6:23pm
Wow HeadphoneAddict that statement about them being that nice in comparison to the others really makes me want to know.

Have you heard the HF-1 stock? If so do the HF2 have more bass? If so then Im VERY excited
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post #139 of 1528
6/16/09 at 6:26pm
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Have you heard the HF-1 stock?
Yes.

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If so do the HF2 have more bass?
Yes.
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post #140 of 1528
6/16/09 at 7:28pm
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Wow HeadphoneAddict that statement about them being that nice in comparison to the others really makes me want to know.

Have you heard the HF-1 stock? If so do the HF2 have more bass? If so then Im VERY excited
The HF-2 with bowls have about as much bass as HF-1 with flats (but also seems deeper).
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post #141 of 1528
6/16/09 at 7:37pm
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The HF-2 with bowls have about as much bass as HF-1 with flats (but also seems deeper).
Same sentiments here....I no longer need to use flats as I normally do for most Grados; bowls give me the bass I want without the flab. HF-2s also seem to reach deeper frequencies and have better bass decay relative to the HF-1s.
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post #142 of 1528
6/16/09 at 7:39pm
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post #143 of 1528
6/16/09 at 7:45pm
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Same sentiments here....I no longer need to use flats as I normally do for most Grados; bowls give me the bass I want without the flab. HF-2s also seem to reach deeper frequencies and have better bass decay relative to the HF-1s.
This sounds like one of the HF-2's strongest characteristics. I think HFA even mentioned that they sounded more extended on the low end than even the RS-1's. I feel pretty comfortable with the impressions so far about the lows and mids, it's the highs that I'm still trying to get a feel for.

It's a tough call for me to decide between the HF-2's and a pair of used RS-1's at this point. I know I like the RS-1's...which makes the prospect of experimenting with the unknown less enticing than it otherwise might be. The comments about the low end extension go a long way to reassuring me about the overall sound quality and refinement of the HF-2.

It's the refinement and detail that I am most skeptical about regarding the HF-2's in comparison to the RS-1's. From a balance and tonal perspective, I'm not that worried that I'd be disappointed.
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post #144 of 1528
6/16/09 at 8:58pm
I dont understand if its the shape of my ears/head but with bowls and grados I have heard I lose all bass impact. Reverse bowls, flats, and 414 pads give me the bass I want at the expense of becoming brighter.

I'd be stoked if the hf2's can solve this
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post #145 of 1528
6/19/09 at 5:40pm
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Yes. My SR-325i had enough bass when they were fairly new, but the bass lessened with burn-in until it was less than I wanted after a couple hundred hours. The HF-2 with over 250 hours have not lost any bass, but it has noticeably tightened up and become more controlled yet more powerful than the 325i were. The PS-1 with bowls has the right amount of bass as well, while with flats it was too much for the rest of the frequency spectrum (to my ears). The HF-2 with bowls has more bass than RS-1 with bowls, and is similar to RS-1 or HF-1 or HP-1000 with flats, but it feels like it does go deeper. I have not tested that last part yet with test tones (will try it when I return to town in a couple of days).

At CanJam I thought the PS-1000 bass with donuts was about like the PS-1 with flats, and more than I wanted, while the HF-2 were closer to just right. I don't know how well the PS-1000 were burned-in, but I think they were pretty fresh like the HF-2 and HD800 there at CanJam.

I think the HF-2 are one of the best phones from John Grado, and I like them best with bowls. It seems to combine the rich vibrant mids and intimacy of the RS-2 with bowls, and the bass of the PS-1 with bowls, and the larger soundstage of RS-1 with bowls, with better detail and liveliness than the RS-2. But, the highs with bowls do not seem to be too bright either. They are the first hi-end Grado that I have not given a thought to re-cabling yet.
Thank you for this response. I'm with HiGHFLYiN9 on the PS-1 love. When I bought my first pair I only listened with flats but after a while I wanted a little more detail from the top end. Bowls lost too much of that impact that I loved but reversed bowls were perfect.

I'm curious how the HF-2's would sound with reversed bowls?
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post #146 of 1528
6/19/09 at 8:48pm
Are reversed bowls just put on backwards? I tried searching for it, no luck
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post #147 of 1528
6/19/09 at 8:53pm
reversed = backwards? SURVEY SAYS YES! If you have a pair of Grados atm try it
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post #148 of 1528
6/19/09 at 9:13pm
NO WAY. That way the drivers are touching my ears 100%
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post #149 of 1528
6/19/09 at 10:57pm
Seems like these could be my first Grados.
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post #150 of 1528
6/19/09 at 11:19pm
Just took the HD-800s off the amp and replaced them with my newly balanced HF-2s. Cued up Pearly Queen from the new Clapton/Winwood Live at Madison Square Garden album and these guys are impressing me even more balanced than I remember single ended. Different amp obviously.

Bowls are my definite choice now and the bass is excellent while the highs are nicely controlled. It has been a while since I listened to these but they definitely scale well with amps as I am really enjoying them and in no hurry to go back to the other phones in the collection.
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