Audio GD C2C
Dec 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM Post #601 of 657
You've been a great help shampoosuicide, ill have a word with kingwa about this issue, while turning the volume knob my clicks/pop's arent quite that loud but are apparent, hopefully i can have the normal knob installed in the process
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM Post #602 of 657
Was this amp a "flavor of the month?" I find it hard to believe because it's such a great sounding amp, way above its price point. I can't sell my used in near perfect shape. Do you guys think $295 is too much to ask for the standard C-2C? $30 off with probably lower shipping seemed like a good deal to me - no?
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM Post #604 of 657
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Was this amp a "flavor of the month?" I find it hard to believe because it's such a great sounding amp, way above its price point. I can't sell my used in near perfect shape. Do you guys think $295 is too much to ask for the standard C-2C? $30 off with probably lower shipping seemed like a good deal to me - no?


Audio GD is like the FOTM company.

The first buyer gets hit with a big loss and from there the losses are small. I think most people would rather pay a bit more for a new amp so normally a 20% discount will get people interested. Even then, I have this $100 rule where I would rather pay up to $100 more for a new one. Of course that doesn't apply for items under $200.
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 10:52 PM Post #606 of 657
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People buying used want a really good deal, meaning you take a big loss.


Seems like this forum is strongly biased against sellers, who just want to get a *fair* deal.

The way merchants are often hyped here, you'd think if anything the bias would be in the opposite direction, giving people more incentive to buy their products because they know they would at least get a fair price selling it again. But what do I know.
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Dec 29, 2009 at 11:15 PM Post #607 of 657
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Seems like this forum is strongly biased against sellers, who just want to get a *fair* deal.


This might help
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 11:19 PM Post #608 of 657
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This might help



Thanks for the "economics" lesson, but supply and demand doesn't really apply here in that way. If someone wants a C-2C, supply isn't the issue. They can get one new for $335 plus shipping, or they can get one used for $30 less with probably lower shipping and have it be a known-working unit with no issues. The "supply" doesn't really have anything to do with the used price. It's not like there's a huge supply of used C-2Cs out there for $100 less than new. If there were, your idea might have some merit. I think it's just a forum bias that has failed to take important things into consideration, like the fact of getting a known working unit, lower shipping rates, maybe faster delivery, etc. like I mentioned. But thanks anyway.
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 11:43 PM Post #609 of 657
Yeah well I have a good friend who takes your view and he just doesn't understand why I just heavily discount my used goods to get a fast sale. His takes weeks and most of the time he has to discount it to a bit above my 'levels'. Keep your current pricing and someone with the same viewpoint could buy it. However, I'm sure the vast majority of people share my thoughts but seeing just how many people visit this site, you should be able to sell it for that price.
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As for the $100 thing, well that's just my thing/theory/weirdness. I know blokes who always buy used to save $50 or so and after several purchases it adds up to a lot. I still think getting 80% back is a great sale though...
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM Post #610 of 657
You'd hope that factory-shipped units would be considered "known working".
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YMMV with selling gear. Most stuff I've sold has sat for weeks or months before I got any interest. You might have no interest one week, then suddenly a bunch of people want the item. It goes in waves.

FOTM is everywhere. There is some legitimate concern about it when the FOTM item is not as good as the newbies who have no basis for comparison who rant about it say it is. Now that I've had a chance to try a fair bit more gear, I'd say the lower-end Audio-gd gear is priced about right, eg: The Compass and C2C. The higher-end gear, starting with the DAC-19MK3 is good value, and goes up to very good value as you head further into the higher end. The main downside is: Tonally neutral gear isn't everyone's cup of tea -- it's not gear that's tuned for a "wow" sound. The C2C is a little.
 
Dec 29, 2009 at 11:54 PM Post #612 of 657
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You'd hope that factory-shipped units would be considered "known working".
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Yes. But let's face it, some of this boutique gear (or whatever we might call it) often has a slightly higher error rate than the huge corporate-manufactured stuff. Not that it's usually ever a huge deal, but sometimes there is some inconvenience for the buyer.

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YMMV with selling gear. Most stuff I've sold has sat for weeks or months before I got any interest. You might have no interest one week, then suddenly a bunch of people want the item. It goes in waves.

FOTM is everywhere. There is some legitimate concern about it when the FOTM item is not as good as the newbies who have no basis for comparison who rant about it say it is. Now that I've had a chance to try a fair bit more gear, I'd say the lower-end Audio-gd gear is priced about right, eg: The Compass and C2C. The higher-end gear, starting with the DAC-19MK3 is good value, and goes up to very good value as you head further into the higher end. The main downside is: Tonally neutral gear isn't everyone's cup of tea -- it's not gear that's tuned for a "wow" sound. The C2C is a little.


Sounds reasonable. I would agree with all that, thanks for the input.
 
Jan 4, 2010 at 1:56 PM Post #613 of 657
I'm a 19mk3+ C2C (upgrade) combo owner and I'm having some problems with the silver volume pot as well, when i first got it i was hearing LOUD clicks everytime i moved the volume pot, after turning the pot about 60-70 times left right those clicks almost dissapeared, but i still hear them if i move the volume knob while listening to music simultaneously.

I have no others problems, at least on my AKG K601 and DT150, no hissing/hum on max volume no weird popping and crackling, just loud disturbing clicks while listening to music in moderate-high volumes and moving the volume knob and the same time, i can hear a little bit of clicking too without music playing IF I use DT150(it's little bit more sensitive than K601 i guess ) and move the volume knob somewhere between the 8-10' o clock range.

I have NOT ever messed with the internals of C2C nor DAC19mk3, altough i admit that i was pretty much careless when switching OPAMPS in my compass. I studied their repair page -> http://www.audio-gd.com/Repair.htm

Since compass developed problems after i messed around with opamps and jumper settings i believe it's 100% my fault so i should pay for shipping BOTH ways. On the other hand I plan to ship back C2C along with it, so according with their repair policy, would it be unfair to them if i pay compass repair cost + "sending item from greece-to-china shipping cost" and ask them to send the units back to greece without charging me ? ( my english sucks i know
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Jan 4, 2010 at 3:15 PM Post #615 of 657
Are you sure ? i repeat that the clicking behaviour was much worse before "burning-in" the volume pot, do you hear a loud click as well if you mess with the volume knob while listening to music ? kingwa admited a few pages back that shampoosuicide's volume pot was indeed faulty.
 

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