I WONDER TO KNOW HOW TO FIND A AMP FOR hd650

Determine your budget and search the amp forum for HD650.

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I am playing with my PRO 900 since some days... I have always been curious about the sennheisers but stayed away because they are open. But lately read that they actually do quite well even if you close them and it seems like you finally can get some at decent prices... Don´t ask me why since I just bought the 900 for far more then a 650 cost. I guess the Proline 750 made me an Ultrasone fanboy lol.

However I wonder how they complement eachother... From all I read on the HD650 it feels like the PRO 900 is kind of a step in that direction? More laid back, darker and softer and a wider soundstage) Am I right that that is a better description for HD 650 then say a PROline 750?

If it´s even more laid back that may be an issue I suppose...

I do noted I much preferr classical music with the 900 but the voices is still a bit drowned in the instruments. Just 35hours pink noise so far though.

I do got an Heed Canamp which many say is great with HD 650.
Anyway do they complement eachother or cancel eachother out?

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just side track a bit to share what i know.

desktop:
* graham slee solo
* naim (can't remember which model)
* earmax (tube) (standard is fine with hd650)

portable:
* mustang
* sr-71 blackbird

don't
* i find the hd650 is not very good with yamamoto (with stock cable that i have at least)
* iqube sounds good but it does not have enough juice to drive hd650 to a quite loud listening volume for some people.

thanks guys for interrupting

LOL...the HD 650 is the old version of the Pro 900.

Nice bump on this thread. Well I have had my HD 650 for some months now.

I wouldn´t say it´s a bad comparison I think Acix is spot on actually with that last remark. It sounds like an old PRO 900 . I felt quite at home with the HD 650 going from the PRO 900. Both have lots of body to the music which the Proline 750 and K701 for example lack a bit. Pro 900 for me have better dynamics and more detail even on the Graham Slee Solo. Which was a big lift for the HD 650 compared to the Canamp and is more musical for me. Just that bit smoother. The HD 650 doesn´t sound quite as real or natural. I was suprised to notice that the PRO 900 actually sound more airy then the HD 650

Only real pro for the HD 650 for me is that I really find the HD 650 being better at is smoothing out recordings. For low bitrate mp3s or poor recordings or really old recordings where you otherwise must run crossfeed they work good. By far the headphones that covers up sibilance the most for example. It´s a decent all rounder but it doesn´t get much head time so please buy it

BUMP: pro900 more detailed than k701?

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Nope.

Pro 900 is definiatly more detailed.

Love the contradictions even in clear criteria like detail, [/sarcasm].
please now I don't want people saying "we have different ears and taste"!!! if you cant objectively tell which one of them is more detailed by hearing then you have to check your brains or find a new hobby. you make this hobby ever more confusing for beginners and viewers.

Yes I am quite surprised. I did not ask about harshness soundstage height or some audiophile fantasy... The DETAIL of an headphone is something objective.

I would like to know your listening backgrounds... I am not joking... And I am not insulting anyone... But if someone has a background which is similar to mine, maybe I could trust him more...

If I can make a stupid example without involving anyone, I'd say that if one has spent a considerable part of his life in front of a PA box inside a disco, maybe he can have is own - wrong - idea of "detail"... Wrong because... Has he ever heard anything that contained details that was worth listening to? ...Whereas if he has a collection of master tapes or either plays with the Munchner Philarmoniker... I will be all ears to him... Thinking is ears are well more trained.

I don't play with the philarmoniker (but in fact I had the pleasure of listening to them)... You know, it was just to make an example of backgrounds that will never get on well together... but I wonder how two "headphone supremus" may have two different ideas of detail...

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How can you get an 'objective assessment' as detail through someone listening?? It's this fallacy that makes some of these threads so awfully full of intolerance with another listener's POV and impressions. Each person thinks he's so right on a supposedly objective assessment.

Clearer highs are often perceived as conferring more detail when it's just that the detail is more easily heard. Someone else with better hearing or who naturally listens more closely, will hear details where someone else doesn't.

You can only trust your own ears on these matters. Opinions here are just a guide. You'll be reading more and more contradictions of which you'll become a part if you remain here long enough and share your own experiences.

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"Detail" is not a question of what sounds better on what.
It's a question of which headphone can handle more. Which one handles more? to know this, you need little experience. One thing is handling a crappy synth, another thing is handling an orchestra. And please, which details can be heard in the first one, which in the latter one?

If you (not just you, it's an example) have heard only crappy synths and boom-boxes for the whole of your life, you may find more detailed an headphone that reproduces them better, BUT then you are mixing up the DETAIL with the COLOUR of the music, because since your experience is that poor, your vision of the music can be only colour-based.

I respect everybody's experiences but consider some of them more trusty... And I think this is understandable.

Welcome to the internet. People have different opinions, deal with it.