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Please link to these recommendations I made to the OP.
Oh wait, I didn't make any, keep on making stuff up. lol

And I thought you also decided that I don't own k701's.
Just keep on dictating what I own or don't own, you're bound to be right some of the time.

olblueyez, I think that someone who is willing to spend the time and money to realise the potential of a pair of high-end phones are in the same league as those who will spend a lot of money on the kit needed to drive a pair of 2 ohm speakers : they view the reward as being equal to the risk. IMO, if you buy a good dedicated amp and upgrade your sources, even if the 701 isnt to your liking your purchases should still work well with other cans.

That said, too many of us stagger into this 'high end' thing (as the OP has done) without a good understanding of the potential pitfalls. IN THE OP's CASE, I completely agree that the 701 is a poor choice. He may even be happier with something from neither AKG nor A-T : the title of this thread has backed him into a nasty corner, IMO.

I would be very keen to see the results of A/B testing on good kit : burned in 701s vs any other headphone in its price range. My *guess* is that the 701s would do very well with acoustic/classical/jazz, but that is purely a guess, and better addressed in a separate post.

estreeter

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Ever heard of hardware description language or digital logic? How do you think sigma-delta modulation and digital filtering is implemented? See my signature - we don't want to know about some thing that you don't understand.


Also, if all CD players are the same then why aren't you using a $20 discman or dvd player?

double post

I recommend the AD900 to the op, unless he plans on getting an Amp in the future, then I would recommend the K701. I have owned the AD900 and currently own the K701.

The K701 is IMO a better headphone in almost every aspect compared to the AD900 (except comfort). However, it all depends upon personal preference and taste. I would be perfectly happy using either as my main headphone.

Edit: I also own the AD700, and find that to be very similar to the AD900. Its an excellent headphone IMO. Maybe you should think about getting the AD700 (since it is cheaper) to get a taste of the audio technica sound signature, and decide for yourself what kind of sound you are after.

I really hate this thread.

Oldblue is right. These phones should not be purchased given these constraints. It's the way that he phrases himself that I have an issue about. There isn't a lot of care taken to strategically choose the right words on his part. It's this that results in wars.

He's kind of like a troll that gives(in this case), really good advice.

I tell it like it is. See here is the thing. I never did care what people think of me and I do run into a lot of people who dont understand that. If I cant be sarcastic and a smart ass then I cant be me. I do try and pass out good info though.

"Please buy the 701 even though you have no amp and thank you very much for taking my advice." Is that what you guys want?

I never did mind people that spoke their mind even though it seems like what they are saying is an objective fact. All it does is tell me that these people are passionate Everything on these forums should be taken with a grain of salt anyway so its no big deal.

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No, please don't think that I overlook this..as to a good degree, learning to respond (to your posts, especially) is something that took me a second to figure out. That as soon as I figured out that, whatever emotional response I felt (immediately to any injustice I felt you did to these phones in a given post) was sort of impeding seeing the information you gave as valid and helpful. Others react similarly too..Thus proving reason for my counter-flame.

I think I got it now though. Don't stop doing what you're doing. Sometimes I lose sight of what it would be to have my akgs sans DAC/amp, and spew emotionally charged asshattery instead. My apologies to you, sir. You do us good even yet.

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OlBlueyez is not all k701 hater for sure.

He knows a lot about tubes and has shared that in great detail with CTH owners/builders.

So many dimensions... hates 701s. loves tubes. I'm sure there's something he feels meh about too

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Wipe your mouths before kissing your children pagans.



Are we putting the guns away now?

The thing that strikes me about olblueyez, as opposed to intoart, is that the former seems to have experience that goes beyond buying 15 pairs of headphones, then racing to the nearest computer to start a thread telling us all how wonderful said phones are. This thread is then followed by one about a week later telling us what a mistake those phones were, and outlining his next move. That, dear friends, is a FOTM fanboy from where I'm sitting.

I may not like everything olblueyez has to say, but I'm willing to read his posts.

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LMAO

Thanks Mate.

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I never once claimed that "all CD players sound the same". What I said is that all decent CD players sound equally good, which is an entirely different statement. I think that it is necessary to spend at least $150 to get a decent CD player. (Portables don't cut it because their headphone outputs greatly reduce sound quality.)

Athough a $150 Onkyo is as good as anything out there at any price, my $250 Tascam is worth it because it also has an extremely high quality, professional grade headphone amp built into it.

(Oh, and citing HDL shows how little you know compared to what you think you know, since no hardware can extract information that was not coded on the CD to begin with.)

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I agree with the first part of this sentence, but not the second part. The AD900 is much better than the K701 in every respect, with or without an amp.