Graphic Equalizers
Mar 5, 2009 at 8:50 PM Post #76 of 110
Well that's like saying. "never watch a colorized version of a black and white film" or "never buy a remastered DVD." We change many aspects of our environment on a daily basis to suit or wishes. From painting the walls a different color, to turning up the heat, to the foods we enjoy, so to say you shouldn't change the music we listen to by using an EQ?, well it just aint ganna happen.. But then again, to EQ or Not to EQ, will be a stictly personal choice for "time eternal" as it is with most Head-Fi topics
 
Mar 5, 2009 at 9:12 PM Post #77 of 110
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Originally Posted by boomy3555 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well that's like saying. "never watch a colorized version of a black and white film" or "never buy a remastered DVD."


It's nothing like that at all! A better analogy would be: Would you advise someone to buy a beethoven symphony which some guy down the pub had re-arranged or would you advise that maybe Beethoven knew what he was doing?

My question is why does someone want to EQ, if it is to sort out room acoustics, EQ won't work. If it's just because you are bored with how the professionals have EQ'ed it, what makes you think you can do it any better, why not just buy some new music? If you are EQ'ing to compensate for a hearing deficiency, fair enough, although very difficult to do properly.

G
 
Mar 5, 2009 at 9:28 PM Post #78 of 110
If you don't like EQ, just stay out of the conversation.

I've used EQ to fix some serious bass boom in my room. You can also help some poorly recorded music if you like. You can also change the sound of your speaker or headphones if they are not perfect for you.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its FACT: "EQ won't work".
 
Mar 5, 2009 at 9:52 PM Post #79 of 110
I've been using my Aphex 204 for around 2 years now I think and I use it often. I recommend it for allowing variety to a certain HP...or recording or even *perfecting* your favorite HP. No, it's not an EQ and that's why I like it so much.

My main listening gear at home is : Laptop>Pico(as DAC)>Meier Corda Cross 1>Aphex 204>PreSonus Central Station>Woo Audio 3>HD 650. I sometimes use the CS amp, other times use tubes.
 
Mar 5, 2009 at 10:02 PM Post #80 of 110
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Originally Posted by gregorio /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It's nothing like that at all! A better analogy would be: Would you advise someone to buy a beethoven symphony which some guy down the pub had re-arranged or would you advise that maybe Beethoven knew what he was doing?

My question is why does someone want to EQ, if it is to sort out room acoustics, EQ won't work. If it's just because you are bored with how the professionals have EQ'ed it, what makes you think you can do it any better, why not just buy some new music? If you are EQ'ing to compensate for a hearing deficiency, fair enough, although very difficult to do properly.

G



Last I heard, Beethoven wasn't mastering any of his own music. So Even though he may have gotten it right dosn't mean any symphony recording enginner would have the slightest idea of what Beethoven would have wanted. and I don't think he would care if I tweeked it a bit to suit my tastes. To move the mids forward a bit because I like Imogean Heep's vocals. or tap up the bass on my T50rp's because the mids are spectacular but the bass is lacking, or maybe soften the highs on the ultrasone pro900's because the amp I have is great for most everything but it can't get rid of the breaking glass highs of the 900's. I don't know about you but i don't have the money to go out and buy a Darkvoice just to use iwth the Ultrasones.. Am I making any sense.??
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 2:18 AM Post #81 of 110
I have records that I wouldn't dream of messing with. They were mastered and pressed by someone who cared about the sound. And then there are some pressings that were either mastered by a monkey, or the tapes they were using weren't up to par. It doesn't take a professional to hear a bad recording. If I can tweak the frequencies a skosh to make the music enjoyable, then by all means I will. A little goes a long way.
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 4:39 AM Post #82 of 110
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Originally Posted by MONGO70 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If I can tweak the frequencies a skosh to make the music enjoyable, then by all means I will. A little goes a long way.


Absolutely. Trust the ears!!
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 12:49 PM Post #83 of 110
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Originally Posted by Max F /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If you don't like EQ, just stay out of the conversation.

I've used EQ to fix some serious bass boom in my room.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its FACT: "EQ won't work".


I've worked with EQ professionally for 20 years, pretty much every day for music recording, production, etc. In comparison, you don't seem to know what EQ is even for. You want to cure your standing wave problems with EQ go right ahead. While you're at it, why don't you use EQ to tune your car or fix your plumbing?

I'm out of this thread, blind leading the blind. It's not that people are ignorant, I expect this, music production is a complex business. But people like you, wanting to remain ignorant and then preaching that ignorance to others is a complete waste of my time. I am just starting to fully understand why the world of professional audio thinks the audiophile world is full of completely anal, ignorant nutters.

Enjoy your EQ and your life.

G
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 2:54 PM Post #84 of 110
Well that a good attitute. See ya!
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Mar 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM Post #85 of 110
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Originally Posted by gregorio /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I've worked with EQ professionally for 20 years, pretty much every day for music recording, production, etc. In comparison, you don't seem to know what EQ is even for. You want to cure your standing wave problems with EQ go right ahead. While you're at it, why don't you use EQ to tune your car or fix your plumbing?


It is widely known that parametric EQs are incredibly useful in tuning a sub woofer's response, specifically cutting peaks in regards to room response.
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM Post #86 of 110
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Originally Posted by gregorio /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I've worked with EQ professionally for 20 years, pretty much every day for music recording, production, etc. In comparison, you don't seem to know what EQ is even for. You want to cure your standing wave problems with EQ go right ahead. While you're at it, why don't you use EQ to tune your car or fix your plumbing?

I'm out of this thread, blind leading the blind. It's not that people are ignorant, I expect this, music production is a complex business. But people like you, wanting to remain ignorant and then preaching that ignorance to others is a complete waste of my time. I am just starting to fully understand why the world of professional audio thinks the audiophile world is full of completely anal, ignorant nutters.

Enjoy your EQ and your life.

G


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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It is widely known that parametric EQs are incredibly useful in tuning a sub woofer's response, specifically cutting peaks in regards to room response.


There are professionals on head-fi that have recommended using EQ to fix room problems and minor tweaks for headphones. I personally have never used it because I don't have a clue how to. I have used bass tone control for some bass light headphones.
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 6:23 PM Post #87 of 110
I think that its funny he called me an audiophile when audiophiles typically abhor EQs.

The folks that really pushed the idea of using EQ for room correction are the home theater people (who often make money setting these systems up). They have to deal with not just a couple set of speakers and one sweet spot, but a room full of speakers, multiple subwoofers and many seats in a room. While certainly speaker placement and room treatments are options 1 and 2, EQ is often used in conjunction to smooth out bass (<90 hz) peaks (not practical with room treatments). We all know that it can't fix nulls but certainly can help with peaks.

Also, the idea that EQ music somehow degrades the music or the intention of the "artist" is all bunch of audiophile hooey. Do what you feel is right for you and try not to pass judgement on others.
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM Post #88 of 110
Just use EQ if it fits your needs. But I don't EQ is the solution for headphones, get headphones that suit your needs instead.
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 8:24 PM Post #89 of 110
I have spent tens of thousands of hours learning and practicing my craft and have worked with many top artists at many world class studios and venues. I am willing and happy to pass on some of this knowledge but not if I'm going to get flamed or told to stay out of it.

So, baring this in mind, do you want me to "stay out of it" or does anyone want to know why EQ is at best a botch job for problems caused by room acoustics or for tuning the response of a sub?

G
 
Mar 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM Post #90 of 110
Share your experiences please!
 
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