Beyer phones - 531 vs 770 vs 880
Jan 30, 2003 at 10:27 PM Post #16 of 53
Ooo, I can't wait for your thoughts on all that stuff when you get it. I'm working out what soundcard to get right now (either TBSC or M-Audio Revo), am thinking about the Art DI/O and will be making a Meta42 soonish, so we would have reasonably similar set ups
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Jan 30, 2003 at 11:57 PM Post #17 of 53
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Originally posted by minya
Spiffy, thanks! They definitely do help! I really would love to hear the Sennheiser sound... I'm not sure if they're for me or not. Anyone want to lend me a pair?
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Chris, the Senn sound is interesting. My impression of the 580s at this point is that the highs aren't as good as I'd like and the bass isn't as solid. Many people here that love the Senns seem to be classical, jazz or vocal lovers. I'm generalizing a bit here, but I do believe that the Senns lend themselves quite well to those types of music. The Senns have great mid range, nice treble, but not enough for me, and decent bass, though not enough to satisfy my tastes. Listening to some of the big band stuff that I have, the Senns really shined. I could absolutely see why the folks here go crazy for them. For my rock music and techno though, they are just pretty good. The Beyers do much more for me with those genres. As I said, it isn't amped so I'm not making any final statements on them since most here agree that an amp is needed to do that. Also, I have a stock cable versus others who have upgraded. I was lucky enough to get the NewEgg deal on the 580s hence why I have them. I see myself using them for certain types music versus them being my main day-to-day cans at this point.
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Out of curiosity, what is it that you don't like about the Revolution? I'm getting the Audiophile 24/96 which is a little higher up than the Revolution, and supposedly has a very clean digital-coaxial out, so it should treat the ART nicely.


Well, the playback on the Revolution is sweet especially compared to my Audigy. What I am not so happy about is more software related. I miss having an EQ. I have a Delphi XM radio that I plug into the line on my computer. The sound from that unit needs some help in certain frequencies not to mention that XM encodes their music with a compression scheme that doesn't always make the music shine. The Revolution sounds quite good, but with an EQ, the Delphi could be sweet. A related problem is how M-Audio handles the line input on the Revolution. In order to listen to the line input, you have to check a box that "monitors" the line input, and to top it off if you don't have the M-Audio control panel open, you can't hear the line input at all even if the monitor box is checked.

I also miss a few things on my Audigy. I had a Platinum EX with an optical in which was nice for my external CD player that had an optical out. And, I miss the remote so that I can turn the sound up or down from across the room. Also, from another thread on the Sources forum, apparently the coax digi connection on the Revolution is having issues. Apparently it was hooked up to an ART but the ART didn't get a digital signal it liked. Not an issue for me, but perhaps for some others it could be.

Overall, I can live with the sacrifice. Where there used to be background hiss, there is now just silence. The Revolution paired with my 770s last night was quite a matchup. I sat in front of the computer for a solid 2 hours just listening to my XM radio and my MP3 collection. Adding the META42 to the mix will probably make me estactic with joy! In the end, I think the Revolution is a great buy and that I will overcome the stuff that I'm unhappy about especially everytime I hear it.

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Also, just wait till you get an amp. It really does change things quite a bit.

- Chris


I'm counting down the hours!
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Jan 31, 2003 at 12:11 AM Post #18 of 53
Well, curiosity got the better of me (story of my life). My DT770s should be here on Monday. I will be able to tell you the differences shortly thereafter. As for the 531 story, you will have to wait for Snufkin to get his 880s.

Hey Snuf, where are those things, anyway?


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Jan 31, 2003 at 12:34 AM Post #19 of 53
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Originally posted by wallijonn
plainsong,

please stop. or you'll end up making me buy the whole BD line.
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I have the DT831, the DT931 are on their way, and I'm trying to get a DT880 and DT531. someone, please help me.
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*giggles maniacally*

I'd want the 880s myself if my sources were a tad bit better.

That's the thing about Beyers, is there really a top of the line? Oh sure their marketing says there is, but sonically it seems they have something for everyone.

Ok, I'm starting to sound like a commercial, it's just good when the Beyers get a little respect.
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Jan 31, 2003 at 1:25 AM Post #20 of 53
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Originally posted by wallijonn
but I know that Snufkin finds the DT931 to not have enough energy, which I found to be the most energetic of the 4 headphones I reviewed.


It's not that they lack energy, they just lack.. something.. soul maybe?
I never find myself being sucked into the music with the DT931s. I have to concentrate when listening to them for some reason.

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Originally posted by plainsong
"People who like the general idea of the 770s but are overwhelmed by the bass should try the 990s..."


Careful, my experience was exactly the opposite
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Originally posted by gerG
Hey Snuf, where are those things, anyway?


What, the DT880s? It takes a while for things to get here down under
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In other news - I have this little voice in my head trying to convince me to get a Sugden Headmaster
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Jan 31, 2003 at 1:29 AM Post #21 of 53
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Originally posted by gerG
Well, curiosity got the better of me (story of my life). My DT770s should be here on Monday. I will be able to tell you the differences shortly thereafter. As for the 531 story, you will have to wait for Snufkin to get his 880s.


Ah ha.. awesome!
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BTW, how much are the 880's? $225?

- Chris
 
Jan 31, 2003 at 2:10 AM Post #22 of 53
DT770's - owned, way too much bass that overwhelms the decent mids & high-end. nice build quality though.
DT990's - not heard, but I like the idea of a "more open-sounding type of 770" with less bass.
DT831/931 - not heard, but I always wonder if those that have heard them have listened thru a 120ohm output or not, most haven't.
DT531's - not heard, intriguing but those that like them usually also like the 770's so...
DT880's - now we are talking. these seem more like my cup-of-tea.
 
Jan 31, 2003 at 2:21 AM Post #23 of 53
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Originally posted by minya
Ah ha.. awesome!
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BTW, how much are the 880's? $225?

- Chris


$235 shipped from Meier Audio. Jan's been tempting us Head-Fiers with a sale when gets some more in though. Keep an eye out on Mall-Fi.
 
Jan 31, 2003 at 6:21 AM Post #24 of 53
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Originally posted by gerG
Well, curiosity got the better of me (story of my life). My DT770s should be here on Monday. I will be able to tell you the differences shortly thereafter. As for the 531 story, you will have to wait for Snufkin to get his 880s.

Hey Snuf, where are those things, anyway?


gerG


Hahaha, hey Greg, when did you buy a pair? I just ordered a pair yesterday! Mine should also be arriving Monday / Tuesday. Man, from AT fever to Beyer fever but, honestly, mine wasn't even fueled by anything. I sold my ATH-A1000's (not because I didn't like them) and instead of moving up the cost ladder othe MDR-CD3000's I was considering, I bought the DT770's. Well, we'll see what happens.
 
Jan 31, 2003 at 7:33 AM Post #25 of 53
jpelg: Not quite - I have and like the DT531, but I'm not too fond of the DT770Pro/250.

And like Snufkin, I'd like the new DT880 to be a refined DT531 - I'm just not too sure, whether I should invest 250 Euro in order to find that out.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
 
Jan 31, 2003 at 8:39 AM Post #26 of 53
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Originally posted by Xander
I just don't understand how anyone can like the way the 770s sound. The midbass is so bloated it gives me a headache. It sounds like some cheap headphone with the megabass maxed out. If you could equalize that out, though, they would kick ass. On the up side, not only do they respond very low, but the rest isnt bad, either.


Boy, you really do have something against these headphones? I know i said this before and i'll say it again, i own the 770's and they sound wonderful with a cmoy or directly out my receiver's headphone jack...not really sure what kind of cheap gear you matched the pair of 770's you listened to
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Jan 31, 2003 at 6:45 PM Post #27 of 53
Hi pikawel. Excellent. Beyer fever seems to be sweeping Phoenix.

I am tweaking my office system, and I was looking for a bit more isolation, more attic space (the 250s tend to get warm after awhile) and I wouldn't object to a bit more bass. I am finding that the bass level and sound leakage are the 2 factors that limit how low I will turn the volume down.

Anyway I ordered Wednesday evening from B&H with 2 day shipping. If I had made up my mind earlier in the day I would have had them this evening, dang!

Matt is still talking CD3000s. Maybe if he gets a set he will let us give a listen.


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Jan 31, 2003 at 6:53 PM Post #28 of 53
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Originally posted by gloco
Boy, you really do have something against these headphones? I know i said this before and i'll say it again, i own the 770's and they sound wonderful with a cmoy or directly out my receiver's headphone jack...not really sure what kind of cheap gear you matched the pair of 770's you listened to
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Them's is fightin' words. :)
 
Jan 31, 2003 at 7:19 PM Post #29 of 53
I think I'm gonna go with the 880s and a Porta Corda for my first real Hi-Fi purchase. I've been researching and reading these forums for two months now...I need to make a decision eventually
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I think this is the best phone/amp combo I can get for about $400 USD. Anyone care to dissuade me?
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Jan 31, 2003 at 7:31 PM Post #30 of 53
Sounds like a plan, fierce_freak. Go for it!
 

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