Michael Vick indicted on Federal Dogfighting charges...
Aug 25, 2007 at 5:11 PM Post #106 of 149
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The very fact that Vick was even associated with illegal gambling may prove to be his undoing. Whether he profited personally from the gambling is irrelevant, as far as the NFL's personal conduct policy is concerned. My bet is that Goodell hands down at least a two year suspension after Vick gets out of prison. He may even make the ban permanent. Vick lied to Goodell and to Blank about his involvement in all this, and men in their positions don't like being made fools of. I'm sure the NFL is going to continue their own investigations into the gambling aspects.

The NFL has to send a message here regarding this type of behavior. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Vick never takes another snap in an NFL uniform.


So is Mr. Vick a bad person?
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 5:27 PM Post #107 of 149
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So is Mr. Vick a bad person?


I'm leaning toward yes at this point. Although I haven't seen how honestly he files his taxes. As soon as I get that information, I'll give you my final answer.
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 5:40 PM Post #108 of 149
Way to throw away a multi-million dollar salary over a $150,000 dogfighting ring.

I can only hope that Vick's stupidity will bring him all the way down to the level of his victims someday. Who knows, maybe in ten years we'll see him on "Bumfights"?
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 7:42 PM Post #109 of 149
gotta hand it to vick's lawyers...got some very very vague language put in his plea agreement - at least in comparison to the other plea agreements of his "friends." i wish he had the hubris to think he could wiggle out of this and take a chance on going to trial. but i'm sure his lawyers told him that he's not smart enough to get out of this one.
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 8:24 PM Post #110 of 149
Vick and the rest of the thugs that are all too commonplace in pro sports are the reason why I don't watch pro sports on TV or attend games any more.

Paid too much, get big heads, think they can do anything, zero integrity.

Is he bad? I'm not his judge, but he certainly admitted to breaking the law, so at least he's rather stupid.
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 8:28 PM Post #111 of 149
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Way to throw away a multi-million dollar salary over a $150,000 dogfighting ring.


Just because he made good money in the NFL doesn't bring his I.Q. up to genius level.
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For many, the more $, the less use of their brain happens.
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Aug 25, 2007 at 8:29 PM Post #112 of 149
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So is Mr. Vick a bad person?


At the very least, he is amazingly stupid. What kind of idiot throws away a superstar career and millions of dollars to indulge some sick thrill?
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 8:30 PM Post #113 of 149
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At the very least, he is amazingly stupid. What kind of idiot throws away a superstar career and millions of dollars to indulge some sick thrill?


Addiction can be a bitch...
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Aug 25, 2007 at 8:39 PM Post #114 of 149
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At the very least, he is amazingly stupid. What kind of idiot throws away a superstar career and millions of dollars to indulge some sick thrill?


most likely he thought he would never get caught..
after all didnt they raid the house for drugs and not dogs in the first place?
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 9:17 PM Post #115 of 149
Maybe Stephon Marbury could be a character witness?
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 11:57 PM Post #116 of 149
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Here's most likely what'll happen: Vick will do his year in jail, then be out of the NFL for another year or two after that. After the jail term, he'll start doing advocate work for the Humane Society, building dog shelters, charity work for animal rights, whatever. In '09-'10 he'll take a minimum salary from any team that'll have him and try to show he's capable of being a starting Q again. "I've learned my lesson and now I'm reformed..."

Blah, blah, blah.

Notice in the news reports yesterday that he only apologized for his "bad judgment", not for actually tormenting or killing dogs. Also the non-admission to gambling is clearly a view to coming back in the NFL later.

Well, it's always about the money, isn't it?

But the chances are he'll never be what he once was (or almost was). Jordan came back after "retirement" but he wasn't the same MJ. Tyson spent his prison time but was never the same Tyson again.

As for the gambling, these guys didn't care about the $20k or $30k they were betting on this stuff. For Chrissakes, these punks walk around wearing $75k watches. Vick had a $130 million contract over 10 years, and got a $37 million signing bonus. This was their entertainment, plain and simple.


Thats a joke. If anyone believes he cares about dogs he wouldn't be killing & torturing them.. But I guess Jail time & awful pub will make any man 'change' for the better, hu?
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 11:57 PM Post #117 of 149
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Originally Posted by Prozakk /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Just because he made good money in the NFL doesn't bring his I.Q. up to genius level.
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Correlation does not imply causation.

Calling his actions an "addiction" is a cop-out. He showed the kind of arrogance the current Executive branch has been showing: I can do anything because I am so rich and important and smart and sexy and fantastic and better than you all I'll get away with anything.

If he wanted to gamble on something, go play blackjack you muscle-bound *****.
 
Aug 25, 2007 at 11:58 PM Post #118 of 149
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Originally Posted by Bootleg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Maybe Stephon Marbury could be a character witness?


Another loser. Dogfighting is a sport? I guess mugging is a sport too.. You are running aren't you..
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Aug 26, 2007 at 1:18 AM Post #120 of 149
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Originally Posted by bhd812 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
most likely he thought he would never get caught..
after all didnt they raid the house for drugs and not dogs in the first place?


Pretty much anyone who does something illegal thinks they will never get caught. Otherwise, they wouldn't do it. And if Vick had even an ounce of intelligence, he wouldn't have put the property in his own name.

The Rockefeller Principle: "Never do what you wouldn't be caught dead doing."
 
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