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It's always been a problem. The solution is mindfulness: live in the present. And I have at least as much trouble with it as you do, all the time. Still, that pix of her has a certain something in the eye and the line of her muzzle . . .

Good Luck with the rescue. I've had good and bad experiences with Dachshund rescues. But they're my favorite breed.

Here's mine. I've been with her since she was born. Her name is Mini. She's about 7 pounds now at 10 months old. She'll stay Mini.


She's a little brute

It looks like she knows how to be cute AND pesky. Yes, even back when we were online-only, it's one thing my future husband and I had in common - that we should have dachshunds of course. My parent's doxy's best friend was also named Minnie, aslo because she was tiny. American miniatures are tiny tiny. Here, your Mini would be a kaninchen, or rabbit sized, smaller than miniature.

I really hope it works out with Tamara. We're not opposed to the occasional show. They can be hugely fun days out, especially since group 4 takes one ring for the day and it's the doxy-only zone. But what we would not do is treat her like an investment, which is apparently what she is now. We don't want to dread her taking trips abroad and we don't want to put her in danger by having zero say in how many times she's bred.

I understand the agreement system is cool for kennels to be able to have lots of dogs without having lots of dogs, but it only works if you agree 100% in how the dogs are treated. Like if Rea bred a real diamond, one she thought she could take to the top, we would enter such an agreement with her because she loves her dogs and we know her well and she always puts their welfare first.

But how would we know that about some stranger, even when shes acting strange according to the breeder that knows her so well? Yeah, right...

And who looses out in this? Tamara. I hope it's an outright sale. We have to wait until Monday to find out.

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Hmm... are you sure she doesn't have some small defect? Years ago, my neighbors got a purebred Yorkie for free because one of her ears wasn't erect, it was folded over. It was really cute, but apparently, she couldn't be shown and no one would buy her because of her ear. Awful, but she did end up loved and in a great home.

Haven't had a purebred cat, but I've tolerated plenty of slightly defective ones. That's half the fun with them, anyway.

Don't worry about the weight. Easily remedied.

here's a dog I rescued a few years ago. Picked her up Monday night and Wednesday morning she cranked out eight puppies. I had a garage full of dogs for the entire summer. I worked with the Humane Society and we got them all adopted, Including "Mom".

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Haha Plainsong!

We run a dog day care. We're inundated with different breeds, personalities, rescue cases, etc.

Here's our horror story with Dachshund rescue. We (partner and I) had two. A 12 pound red male (Bruiser), and a 13 pound double-dapple female (Ricca). Well, someone had an 11 month-old almost all black male (Duncan) that my partner fell in love with. He was in the 13-14 pound range. He was in sorry condition and needed a lot of attention. The owners couldn't keep him.

None of the three were neutered/spayed, as we planned on breeding Ricca. For the first month, Bruiser maintained his dominant status, as well as his possessiveness of Ricca. Then Duncan tried to mount Ricca. Bruiser went after him. Well, five-year old Bruiser being smaller and older, Duncan got the best of him.

The next month was a month of male Dachshund horror. Every vertical object higher than a stone was a potential marking post. They marked my bike tire (not OK). They marked everything outside. But that was only the beginning. They began to attack each other with a frenzy. I got bit separating them, my partner got bit doing the same thing. Bruiser began to get pretty scarred up.

They would fight through cages, getting their teeth caught. They would fight through fences. They would fight through closed doors when they couldn't even see each other. There was collateral damage to dog and human and property.

Then one day Duncan slipped out the door. Bruiser was outside. Duncan blind-sided him and got the best of him, removing a quarter-size chunk of bruiser's ear. This was the last straw for Bruiser. He began to lose his spirit. This rescue, this good deed had begun to destroy a loved family member, both physically and mentally.

We found a suitable home for Duncan after three weeks of frenzied phone calls and internet searches. Bruiser was a mess and never really went back to being the same dog. Just a horrible situation.

On the plus side, Bruiser and Ricca had their first litter of three later that year. Daisy went to a home locally, coming back to visit weekly for daycare. Winston Thorpe went to my partner's sister, also coming back for visits. And I've got Mini, who hopes every day that it's the day her brother and sister come over to play like they did for the first 10 weeks of their lives.

Bruiser William in fine form

I'm confused here, Kim.

Are you Purchasing Tamara or Adopting her? I went through a rescue organization to Adopt a rescue. (MoMo.) I don't know how rescue organizations work in Finland, but in the US, it is not uncommon for a rescue organizations to have a contract where they can rescind your "ownership" of the dog you rescue if you fail to maintain certain criteria (namely, health and well being). But to add stipulations where Tamara would be recalled into service to perform at a dog show?

You should insist on full adoption / ownership, where you would have paperwork proving the transfer. In the US, dogs are treated as property, so any contracts dealing with them are like buying a car. (unfortunate, but that's how it is here) When my wife and I adopted MoMo, we retain full "ownership", which included reprogramming her microchip with our information. But there is still a clause in the contract with the Rescue that if they feel we are mistreating MoMo, that they would take her back.

Either way, one could look at adoption fees that rescues charge as "buying" a pet, but rescues often foot the bill for vet care, food, etc. We paid an adoption fee, but I also donate supplies to help the rescue.

But your situation sounds like the breeder just want you to be a foster for Tamara. Being a foster is great, but it's a temporary arrangement, Tamara needs a full time "forever" home.

-Ed

That's the thing. We now know longer know what situation this is anymore. It started from the website, which implies that this is a homeless dachshund that is a rescue case from another breeder.

But now? Champion bloodline, best of breed, the fact that she's co-owned on of the owners which is a serious show breeder. AND the fact that she won't say what the deal is, it's weird, it doesn't add up anymore. Is this a rescue case or not?

All we know at this point is that we'd be a darn far site more stable home for Tamara than what she has now. But we won't have her bred three times, we won't keep her underfed and we won't have her paraded all over Europe on threat of having her taken away.

If this isn't a rescue adoption or a sale, then we'll just have to hope a better family steps up. It seems common sense that when we emailed and then called and explained the kind of home environment we have, what kind of dog we're looking for, a pet, what our beliefs are in how doxies should be treated, that she wouldn't mention that "Oh, by the way, this is an agreement."

It would be strange to post a page about a rescue dachshund only to say, oh by the way, this isn't a rescue dog, this is a show contract. That's not how things are usually done here. Those agreements are common here. and there would be no reason to hide it.

Otherwise, there's no official doxy rescue organizations. Regulations are strict here if you still want to be endorsed by the Dachshund club. For instance, both parents have to have won some things either in tracking or in shows, or have certification as suitable for breeding from a sactioned judge. If neither dog has this, you can't breed them, end of story. If you do that, you're kicked off the list of breeders, and usually a warning is posted about you in the local papers. Such as one such breeder who is still selling dachsunds out of the back of a car (Kennel Malec for any Finns looking for doxy's - avoid these people!) It's also my understanding that these dogs produced by such poor breeding can't be registered. It keeps over-population down, that's for sure.

But what you do see happen is occassionally a doxy will fall on bad times, and when that happens, a breeder will come forward and offer a temporary home while they try to find something more permanent. The page implied that this was the case, but now knowing what we know, it doesn't make sense.

Jes, poor Bruiser. My parent's dog, Beau, a also a dapple, was a happy dog who liked all other dogs..until a brute of a yellow lab/boxer cross kept trying to kill him. He's since learned from Ben (the big huge brute) that you have to fight all male dogs, so that's a shame. The books all cover bad habits we teach our dogs, but there's no chapters about habits learned from other dogs.

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God I hope you get this dog.

We have two, a Boxer, and an Austrian Sheepdog.

Both were found as stray's, and they've been the best thing to ever happen to our family.

Doesn't smell right. Already the breeder is changing stories. I'd insist on a straight purchase/adoption or no deal. Tamara deserves better.

On the positive side, it is a good thing that you do not have a lot of specialized rescues near you. That means there are a lot of dogs that were abandoned. There are so many rescues here in the US, because so many dogs are thrown away. THe lucky ones end up in rescues. Others end up in kill shelters.

Hope it works out for you, Kim.

-Ed

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W00T! My husband contacted her, and she said this is an outright ownership change! Maybe Rea is being too skeptical and this is just a case of them wanting a better home for the dog they thought they had the time and home for. We have always said that we don't mind showing her. Shows can be fun if you're like us. We were thrilled when Pixie came 2nd in her class to a dog that really had put in some training. Rea wasn't thrilled though, saying Pixie scored better than that same dog at confirmation. But she's the breeder and biased.

This reminds me of a situation a friend of mine was in with a horse. This was a beautiful Arabian with a name and bloodline and list of show accomplishments as tall as I am. She was also a character and wonderful to ride... for everyone but the friend who bought her. Somehow, even though the test rides had gone great, they couldn't get along. It was a case of a very talented horse and a very talented rider and they both got on each other's last nerve. So she had to reluctantly find a better home. It came down to a choice of two. Either a professional rider, or a complete newb. But the thing is, there was something special about the relationship the horse had with the complete newb. And, the parents already had a farm so this wasn't a case of not having a home once the girl went to college or something. So, my friend sold the horse for a fraction of what she would otherwise have taken, along with the agreement that she would give the girl riding lessons, all for the bargain price of about 2000.

So maybe this seems shady, but is just someone who can't give the home they thought they could, what with two dobermans in one home and 4 other doxies in the other, and they just want something better for her. That means it's all down to Pixie.

She's never been in a situation where she's been the bigger dog (it does look like Tamara is a tad smaller, but it could be the hair or lack of it), so we'll just sit on the floor and let Tamara meet us and let them play and see what happens.

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Sweet! Keeping my fingers crossed for you. Hope it works out. Tamara will be in great company.


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First things first. Take both Tamara and Pixie for a walk before letting them meet indoors. And it's best to take a different path than you normally do. That way Pixie has no chance to be in familiar territory. Then let them meet indoors at home after the walk.

Looking foward to seeing pics.

-Ed

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Oh yes, we already thought of that. There's no territory she's not familiar with around her, but nor is she territorial of any of it.... She especially loves meeting dachshunds (apparently they can tell, don't ask me how, but we've seen it for ourselves), so she should be happy.

I think it should go well because once a local breeder came over to give Pixie a coat stripping and brought her doxy along. This was also a little girl, matched in age and size to Pixie, and they just came right in, and Pixie was thrilled.... until she was scooped up to get her hair done.

Now other female dogs, especially those bigger than her, she will bark at, but it's not a set-in-stone thing. I've noticed sometimes if you try again to meet, she's not oppossed to being friendly. Like on the train this Christmas. We and someone with some sort of short haired terrier had the doggie car to ourselves. Pixie promptly did a mean bark to the friendly terrier, but I said "Hold on, let's see how she is while NOT in my lap." And sure enough, just as friendly as could be when we tried again.

We have a little nighthound on our hands.

If she's a kaninchen, then she's the biggest I've ever seen, more like a mini that they've been keeping underweight so that she stays in the kaninchen class. But that's not her fault, and now they're just looking for a good home for her. She's an extremely happy and self-assured dog....as long as she can see EVERYTHING you're doing. Pixie isn't so clingy, but nor is she as self-assured the rest of the time. This makes them different enough that there's only been one arguement. After they came back in from their nighttime walk, they were playing, and Pixie just got genuinely annoyed. They're both good girls, so it was easy to step in and they made nice.

But this Tamara is a little nightowl. She's only just now settling down to sleep. Everyone else is trying to sleep, and she's meanwhile going through every toy Pixie has, running up onto the bed and having a happy time. Meanwhile Pixie comes from up out of my blanket with a face that says "Do you mind??" I somehow think Tamara's routine more matches mine.

Pixie needs lots of reassurance, and she wasn't thrilled about Tamara being up on the bed, but they touched noses and were nice to each other. That's a great start. And after all it's Tamara's first night here, she's bound to be excited and a little nervous. Otherwise they already walk very nicely together, like they are working as a team. The only thing that makes me uneasy is how Pixie acts pushed aside, but we have Tamara for a couple of days I think, to test how they are together, so we should be able to continue with the positive reinforcement. They're not fighting, so that's a start.

Pictures coming just as soon as I can edit and upload them.

Heheh, so Tamara is a velcro dog, eh? MoMo is a velcro dog, but my wife is the loop side, and I am the hook side, so MoMo only sticks to her mommy.

As for the up all night thing, a good walk before bed time helps, or in our case, changing her feeding time to night time worked like a charm. She just passes out from food coma. LOL. Otherwise she kept getting up at all hours of the night. Or perhaps it was because I am usually up in the wee hours of the night?

Otherwise, sounds like Tamara is settling in. Lots of exciting, strange new smells.

Looking foward to the pics.

-Ed