Owww! Is there something wrong with my HD580? How come it's got all THAT bass!? Feels like I've got subwoofers strapped to my head If this is how all HD580s sound I can't imagine anyone wanting more bass!

It's not the fault of my Onkyo speaker amp... I compared it with the SR-Head, and the SR-Head does have less bass, but only slightly...

Normally all this bass is a blessing But tonight I've been listening to too many bass-heavy tracks... the last album was by a rave party gal... OWW!!! (but then I suppose it SHOULD sound like that? )

Quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality.

Turn the bass down on your amp or reciever.

Use a resistor as an earing as a passive crossover.

whenever i get fatigued with one headphone's sound, usually it is the bass that starts to get too much. try switching to another set of cans, and if you don't have any others, go here.

must be that vintage Sherwood.

Usually the HD600 and 580 do not give you that bass are you talking about, I even will considered them a little laid back in the bass extension, must be any bad setting of the amp or any problem with the source. One of the reasons that makes me prefer the CD3000 to this pair was the bass extension.....

Sounds like it's bloated booming bass that you're hearing. With better amps, the bass is tight and well controlled, never overwhelming.

Oh, I'm using the Onkyo CR-305X receiver now (as pictured in avatar) and EQ is off, thank you very much.

It's not overpowering per se, and it's well under control--at the right point there would be a quick wallop that backs off right away. It's not obscuring details or anything, but my ears / head would just start hurting after a while

Joe,

I wonder if the headphone jack goes through a op amp section. chances are that it goes directly to the speaker outputs and may just have a resistor in the signal path. that would explain the greater bass - high damping coupled to low output impedance (though the resistor, if it's greater than 200 ohms, may decrease damping). it's why many head-fi'ers are using Marantz 1060 and Fisher 400 amps. i use a crown d60 and a technics suv96. both amps give plenty of bass ooomph to my dt831, k501 and k1000. i can detect different amounts of soundstage and transparency between the two amps. you'll have to compare your onkyo (which is probably a rebranded Pioneer) to another amp and see which one you prefer.

and i said "sherwood" because that's what your profile says. so how do they sound through the sherwood? (which shares the same onkyo / pioneer engineering, if not the same assembly line). open that baby up and tell me if it has Burr-Brown DACs or ICs.

Re: the output impedance thing, I'm using the impeder, remember?

(Although it's a 27ohm model)

edit: Oh, you say it has high damping factor to start with? Then the impeder just makes it higher I guess . Why do you think speaker amps have higher damping factors than headphone amps? I thought damping factor is directly determined by output impedance. I guess I should have guessed it's more complicated than that.

The Sherwood is pretty much bust I've removed it from my profile

Joe,

You may want to read this thread straight through to the end:

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showt...ighlight=k1000

most solid state amps have high damping factors at the speaker outputs. the output impednace of an amp is not the same as the 4 ohm, 8 ohm, 16 ohm outputs.

hello!

i am not an expert regarding this matter, but perhaps you have a hangover?

hangover
n 1: disagreeable aftereffects from the use of drugs (especially alcohol) [syn: {katzenjammer}]
and suddenly your headphones sound like subwoofers strapped to your ears

2: an official who remains in office after his term [syn: {holdover}]

lol ProtoDada

I know that feeling all too well... and its the season to be jolly...

The Senns are by no means lacking in their bass... i'm listening to some pretty bass heavy music at the moment, and they're handling it well... but I can't see (or hear) that they'd be able to handle subwoofer amounts of bass!?

Blame it on the Alcohol

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If you feel like it, take the foam layer out of the earcups. I did this with my 520IIs, and it helped a lot. The bass became sleeker and more precise. Anyways, those foam layers were quite rotten already...