I give up! now your implying a tommahawk is equivelant to a cmoy?

if you need an amp to drive your akgs don't buy it.

somepeople with sensitive ears or for whatever reason find that the hornet volume pot doent give them enough of a range in adjusting volume. why is this now about sound quality. just because something has more gain ability doed not mean is a better amp nor should it mean that if it is designed for iems. we will see that's for sure. I'm done. have a good night and hope you can keep an open mind. why not just order a B-52 to drive some apple packins? should sound better right? come on!

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You completely missed my point. And first of all, I mentioned that this is all purely speculation, and since we haven't heard the amp yet, that we shouldn't be too quick to pass any judgement on the amp. Yet, I, like many here, am very curious and so am speculating as to the capabilities of this amplifier. Clearly, I am skeptical, but I won't write it off until I've heard it. Secondly, gain != power. Ray could make the gain infinity, and yet the voltage swing will still only be less than 3 volts. It's simply the max power the amplifier can achieve, but unless you're turning the knob all the way, there's no reason why one amp at a certain gain will perform better than another amp at a different gain. All I'm saying is that, with such low current draw and voltage swing, how potent of an amplifier can this be? Certainly, raw power specs don't tell the whole story, but since these specs are so low, any rational person would be able to see the rationale in some level of skepticism. That is all.

It is quite ignorant to assume that just because someone makes something that it has a logical and functional purpose... especially one that is somehow better fitting then current products.

Secondly... I will give $20 to the first person to touch the exposed 250v pin on the B52... im sure that will stimulate you more. People don't go to school for years and become engineers for no reason.

Lastly, sometimes people act selfishly and make or say or do things just to better their own well being...heck... people have to make a living somehow

That said I have no issue with either of those products. If people will buy them great, if not oh well, something newer and better will come out eventually. That is how business and capitalism works.

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I love this site! but....... why are the products that we so desperatly want to own and are interested in are treated like sex offenders. Guilty to proven inocent. While in that case I may agree, I dont when it comes to these products. why do we not support someones efforts before we condem them or be "skepticle". As Long as I have been apart of this forum has Ray ever under delivered? Do you think Ray would want to tarnish his impeccable reputation just to make a few extra bucks for the holidays and create an inferrior product? the answer is NO!

Sorry Ray but I'm answering for you here and I apologize in advance Im just heated over this crap

If Ray says he found a way to make 3 volts effectively drive IEM's than thats all I need to hear. If the amp needed more to accomplish the sound quality that his products provide than he would have made it a 4, 5, 6 ... volt amp. He would have done the right thing! This is no underachiever.

These are NOT cute little altoids CMOYS here. (that implication is embarrasing). [size=x-small]Have you seen a B-52![/size]

Ray's products are some of the highest quality amps available IMO!
No way Ray sells out with the Tommahawk!

I have spent several hours on the phone with Ray over the past month and I can tell you as fact that he is not the kind of man who is going to spend the time, effort and money to develop this new Tommahawk to be anything less than spectacular!

[size=medium]Word to the PorkChop![/size]

I give up. You're criticizing me for being skeptical about a product that hasn't even been seen by 99.999% of the membership here at Head-fi, not to mention heard. Is it wrong for me to be skeptical? We both know that it hasn't been released yet, so why are you so ridiculously defensive? Ray is no God.

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You're right -- Ray is no God, nor is any other equipment developer -- nor is anyone on this planet is, as far I know (which isn't a lot is the cosmic scheme of things). I don't think it's a matter of trose49, or anyone else being defensive.

I consider myself a skeptic -- I rebel and rail against conformity -- yet I strive to maintain as much objectivity as I can muster -- and try to keep an open, receptive mindset to allow for unexpected possibilities.

I haven't quite pinned it down yet, but I feel there's a palpably cynical patina -- at the very least -- over your conjecture. If it wasn't intended to have that coloration, then perhaps it was an unfortunate choice of wording on your part, in which case you should try to visualize how readers will understand your posts before submitting them. Clear communication is so important here, as it is everywhere in life.

If I had the technical expertise to feel that the specs might be at odds with the amp's intended purpose, I would certainly muse to myself as to whether or not this thing could work as intended -- but why throw out negative imaginings, which just add to a negative pre-bias before, as you have said, we've heard the damned thing.

If after lots of us have heard it there tend to be some inadequacies and discontent, then that would seem to be the appropriate time to try to disclose what might be at the root of such issues -- should they occur.

Since you and most us haven't yet heard it, why imagine problems before they've happened? Is the intent to suggest "don't listen to this -- it can't possibly work"?

Discussing your curiosity about the specs is understable, but why not just wait and hear it as you suggested nearly in the same breath, or at least wait until some (by your standards) credible persons have heard it and post some intelligent remarks (though hearing it for yourself would be the most effective option, and the most credible for you -- one way or the other.)?

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for IEM use yes you are,I heard the many different comings of the Tomahawk and from my ears its true to what IEm's like..

second no Ray is no God, God's name is Criag and he is Eddie Current..lol

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I've seen and read and heard enough to realize that the impressions of others, especially when it comes to amps, means very little to me in terms of what is good and bad. In terms of color and character, I suppose impressions are generally accurate.

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I agree with you, esp thinking of Fanboys..
The probelm about the Toma is if you sell your IEM's then the amp almost becomes useless, but if you have custom IEM's then well...you will not be selling anytime soon..lol
If you have custom IEM's you owe to your self to try out the Tomahawk in home just for being made for your iem's..

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Hey man -- can't you remove the uber-graphic sig details? I'm gettin' queasy every time I see one of your posts! Oof.

I don't understand the concept of an amp designed for "IEM".

Some IEM are more sensitive than others. Some IEM have higher impedences than others. And some IEM need different tonal balancing than others.

Some IEM benefit from transparency from an amp, others need warmth. Punchiness, forwardness, etc., etc., etc.

Exactly which IEM is this amp supposed to be designed for?

Or what does it mean to design an amp for IEM? Other than low-gain, as generally most IEM are quite sensitive. Or is that all it is?

Best,

-Jason

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I think so. That's all.

What I don't get is that so many people are having a hard time getting this. No offense to you, Jason. I just picked your quote because it was the most recent example. You've actually asked a some good questions, and most notably: which particular IEM (or IEMs) might Ray have had in mind in designing the Tomahawk?

I can only presume that the UE 10-Pro was at least one such animal, since Ray owns a pair and loves them. Assuming that this is true (and seeing the UE's in his promo pics, I'd think this is a safe bet), then I've got to say that this should be welcome news for all UE owners!

Despite the fact that I tend to listen at relatively high volumes, when it comes to my 13 ohm UE 10-Pro, I've yet to find any headamp that gives me enough play in terms of volume control. On low gain, the Hornet is still at 8-9 o'clock on the dial, and the same goes for my Xin and Portaphile amps. In other words, it's really difficult to make fine adjustments when using the UE's with any amp!

Thus, after receiving numerous requests from similarly situated IEM users, Mr. Samuels decides to design an ultra portable amp with this application in mind. Seems wise to me. It's most certainly an unmet need in a small but growing market segment.

So I'm looking forward to giving the Tomahawk a try with my UE's at the first Head-Fi meet where the two, themselves, shall meet.

...

And meanwhile, back at the ranch, as he stirs in his sleep, Ray hears another strange voice calling his name.

"Ray, I'm the market for a pair of high current monoblocks to drive my (extremely ineffcient) Magnepan speakers. Do you think the Tomahawk will do the trick? If not, then how is the world can you even call that silly little thing an amplifier?"

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There is a very easy solution to that problem:

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/profi...do=editoptions



Best part is:
you will never have to complain about someone's sig ever again.

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I may be wrong, but I think he's just joking about the thought of loose body parts being traded around.