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Sounds like a USB problem.

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Has anyone here heard significant improvements by throwing more expensive/powerful solid-state amplifiers at the HD650? I used it with a Fiio E10K (High Gain), O2, Schiit Magni 2, Violectric HPA V90 and JDS Labs The Element. Changes were extremely subtle, almost non-existant.


What really appears to bring the very, very best out of the HD650 is an amplifier w/ a damping factor of 50 +.  In my case I use the HD650 exclusively w/ my vintage Kenwood KA-8300 integrated amplifier (1976) & I'll tell you, with the right amplifier, as I believe my vintage amp to be, the HD650 is as good as just about any headphone on the market including orthos.  I've owned & listened to the following headphones over the years : the HD600 (like that one also), HD598, HD700, HD800, HD800 S, Beyer T1 Gen.1 & Gen.2, DT990/ 600ohm, AKG K702, K712, K702-65th annies, Grado PS1000e, PS500e, GS1000e & i, GH1, SRS325e, RS1i, & e, LCD 2 rev.2, Shure SRH1540, SRH940 & a few more mid-high end which I can't recall & based on my personal taste & based on the "perfect" amplification for them : the HD650 is my personal favourite headphone amongst all of those headphones I've listed.  

 

One important point which at times seems to be forgotten about these headphones is that for a number of years, the HD650 was Sennheiser's flagship headphone.  Grant you, that was a few years ago but that doesn't necessarily mean that headphones with newer technology are much better or simply better than the HD650.  Price isn't always a true indicator either.  

 

 

A former member of Head-fi who really knows his stuff put it best when it comes to the HD650 (copy & paste from "a part" of what he wrote on another Internet audiophile site, 3 years ago ) : 

 

Quote : First off, the HD-650 is not a mid-ranged headphone. It was Sennheiser's flagship for years and is still a better headphone than quite a few in the $1,000-$3,000 range. Yes. Seriously.

For those here who don't know me, I usually run the setup in my flair. However, I also have the AKG K-1000, Stax Omega II Mk. 1, Grado HP-2, and a dozen other headphones. I have owned the HD-650, HD-600, DT880, K-701, K-501, and a bunch others. I've been to several large meets and have listened to pretty much everything on the market. Yes, even the Orpheus. My other amp is a Moth Si2A3 and I'm bringing a Barbour Brute Force and Cuiffoli SESS (5842) online pretty quick, followed by a Pete Millett SRPP ECC99 in the grounded cathode configuration. I like speakers, too, and run ProAc Response 2.5 clones I built and Quad ESL-63s. 

So when I say that the HD-650 is a high end headphone, I mean it. It's a great headphone and a tremendous value considering that some of the expensive headphones are just ordinary headphones tarted up with aluminum and leather and a really big price tag.

The HD-650 is picky about amplification. This is where the veil myth comes from. The HD-650 is not veiled; amplifiers are veiled. Use a good one and it can sound almost as quick and transparent as an electrostat."

 

My favourite part of what he wrote & that I happen to agree with is the following :

 

"The HD650 is picky about amplification.  This is where the VEIL MYTH comes from.  The HD650 is NOT VEILED; AMPLIFIERS ARE VEILED.  Use a good one and it can sound almost as quick and transparent as an electrostat."

 

I fully agree with this opinion because I'm experiencing it now with the proper amping.  This headphone is an exceptional piece of audio technology.


Edited by BobG55 - 7/25/16 at 9:41pm
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I'll add that you don't even have to spend a lot of money to make the HD650 truly sing.  Listening out of my Vali 2 and Modi 2 Uber 4490 right now and it is an exceptional pairing, almost as good as my Bifrost/Valhalla 2 setup. 

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What really appears to bring the very, very best out of the HD650 is an amplifier w/ a damping factor of 50 +.  In my case I use the HD650 exclusively w/ my vintage Kenwood KA-8300 integrated amplifier (1976) ...

Not saying it won't sound good, but if you are using the headphone output of the amp there is a 330 Ohm series resistor which pretty much negates the damping factor of 50 + and will give approx. 1.5dB boost around 90 Hz

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