Okay, now, out of a D-25S juicy headphone jack, which of these cans would sound the best?

Beyer DT770 (possibly underpowered?)
Sennheiser HD-25 (a bit expensive, but i could go for it)
Beyer DT831
Beyer DT-250
Sony MDR-V6
ATH-W100 (too expensive, should I save up?)

Basically, I will be using these at school with a D-25S, and it will all be in a big setup bag. I would just get ETY's and be done with it, but I want something comfortable that I could take on and off with ease.

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Well, since no one else has anything to say... Out of the bunch you mention, I have only heard the Sony V6's. So I will offer some advice from a logical thought process (I know, isn't that a crazy thing to mention in this forum?). Preference in the following order from 1.(best) to 10. (least ideal for your stated use):

1. Sony MDR-V6 - least expensive, from the D25 they will sound nice and loud, get the Beyer pad mod, no regrets.
2. Beyer DT250-80 - I assume you mean the 80ohm version, presumably better sound than the V6's and almost as efficient, probably no regrets either provided it is in your budget.
3. Sennheiser HD-25 - I assume the more expensive pro version, if you know what you are buying and are OK with spending the extra money, possibly too much money anyway.
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8, 9, & 10. (In no particular order) Beyer DT770, Beyer DT831, ATH-W100 - Obviously all high quality cans, all either too inefficient or just too damn expensive for portable use directly out of the D25 (not to mention big!).

just my .02

My Sennheiser HD280 Pros sound quite nice out my Sony D25S, not as nice as my Etys, but still quite good for $100.

If anyone owns all three of these closed cans:

V6/7605
HD280
250-80

Please give a comparison.

I own the V6 and the HD280. I like the V6 more. Some like the HD280 more. Some say the HD280 is ‘better’ than the 25-80 (which would make the 250-80 total **** , going by this logic)

I know it’s a matter of taste but nevertheless I’m curious.

You know what I'm going to say, so I won't -- it's more money but it puts the others to shame -- they're in another league, and work fine with the D-25S (running on AC power). However, carrying it around is going to be far more difficult than the others -- it's much larger, and if you mess up the wood finish you'll never forgive yourself. But you'll have such a grin on your face! Save up.

If you're going to hang out on these boards it seems you're doomed to get the V6 sooner or later, if for nothing else but being able to do review comparisons against other phones. Might as well get it over with.

Seriously, I don't think you could go wrong with the V6, especially if you buy it off the internet. It's significantly cheaper than your other offerings and plenty good for portable. They'll fit in your bag nicely too.

JML's right about never forgiving yourself if you messed up the woodies. Plus, everyone around you would want to try 'em on.

IMHO the Beyer 770 and 831 will both be slightly underpowered without an amp... but you could always get a porta corda or JMT amp to go with them

Hmmm, can anyone here compare the V6 and the DT250s?

Also, i don't know about those AT cans, for about the same price, one could get CD3000's...which are probably a bit better.

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The DT-250 are much smoother. They have great, deep bass, and good detail, but they are nowhere near as harsh as the V6. The V6 are much more analytical. I own both and enjoy both, but they have different "sounds." Overall I think the DT250 is a more refined and enjoyable headphone.


One other difference: I find the V6 with Beyer pads to be a bit more comfortable than the DT250. The headband on the DT250 presses the crown of my head fairly hard, and I have to take them off or move them quite often.

MacDef,
You said almost exactly what I would have said about the DT250s and the V6s, so I will say no more other than, "amen."

Tim,

I agree with JML . . . the W100's are very good cans (though not ideal for portable) and I got the impression that they were in a different class than the Sony CD3k's (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It seems that many more people were amazed by the performance of the W100 (namely midrange transparency) than the amount of people amazed by the performance of the CD3000 . . . but I have not heard both of them, I'm simply assimilating comments on each.

For what it's worth, I tried the W100's with my new CHA-47, with EXCELLENT sound as the result. Absolutely wonderful sound; it really brings out the transparency of the W100's well. So if I were you, I would save up for the W100 (it's very much worth it) and the W100 right out of the headphone-out of your D25S would be very good sound-- then later you could save up for a CHA-47 . . . and then you'd have a very nice portable system.

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I don't want to start any riots here, but, from the specs, the CD3000 seems a bit better than the w100, with a sensitivity of 104 dB/mW, whereas, the W100 has a sensitivity of 100dB/m. I am not saying that the sonic characteristic can be judged only by this. Someone who has both should do a comparison. If i had to choose one of the two, I would probably go with CD3000s. It also really bothers me that on Audio-Technica's website, they talk more about the wood than the headphone's sound quality, which was a huge turnoff for me, so to put it simply, I would have to disagree with the statement that W100's are in a higher class than the CD3000's.

CD3000
Type Circum-aural, dynamic
Driver unit 50mm diameter, CCAW
Impedance 32 ohms
Sensitivity 104 dB/mW
Rated power 500mW
Power Handling Capacity 100mW
Frequency Response 20-20,000Hz
Cord Length 9.8 ft (3.0m)

ATH W100
. Type: Airtightness movement system
. Resounding/affecting œä •p ratio: 5.30000Hz
. Maximum acceptance receiving Isao ratio: 2000mW
. Bugle: Phi 53mm. èc áí magnetism èc, OFC8N sound šŸ
. Sensitivity: 100dB/m
. ‘j resistance: 48 Omega
. Drawn line: PCOCC material, long 3m, 6.3mm stand é“ plating ?‡ head
. Weight: Approximately 320g

(Team Sony?)

Hmm . . . Well, just so you know, specs are completely meaningless as to how sound is of the 'phone. It seems you know this already.

The reason that specs are meaningless is because they are 1) many times inaccurate, 2) even if they are accurate, why does it help to know characteristics of the headphone that don't affect the sound 3) Many times companies use the specs for advertizing purposes only.

And I don't think that sensitivity has very much to do with sound (why would it? Seriously, though?) What if I were to judge the W100 on specs and say that it's better than the CD3k because itsw frequency range goes from 5Hz-30,000Hz, and the CD3k goes only 20Hz-20Hz. Obviously, the fact that the AT goes to 30,000Hz has nothing to do with its performance, making it no better than the CD3k in that respect, and I definitely think that putting that down was a good example of using the specs as a marketing ploy. Same goes for the sensitivty; this makes the AT no better or worse, necessarily, compared to the Sony.

SONY PEOPLE! Markl, I think, has heard both AT's and the CD3000 . . . AUDIO TECHNICA PEOPLE!