I will switch to FooBar2000 if...
Dec 16, 2004 at 11:16 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17

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...I get the ability to get a fully functioning WinAMP 2.xx skin
AND
the ability to utilize WinAMP DSP plug-ins (Enhancer .17 specifically)...

Can it be done?
 
Dec 16, 2004 at 11:31 PM Post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by 450
...I get the ability to get a fully functioning WinAMP 2.xx skin


no. not available...

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Originally Posted by 450
AND
the ability to utilize WinAMP DSP plug-ins (Enhancer .17 specifically)...
Can it be done?



foobar has its own dsp-plugins. usually they're rated higher than the winamp ones...
 
Dec 16, 2004 at 11:50 PM Post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by 450
...I get the ability to get a fully functioning WinAMP 2.xx skin
AND
the ability to utilize WinAMP DSP plug-ins (Enhancer .17 specifically)...

Can it be done?



Erm... if you want all the WinAmp features, why don't you just use WinAmp already? Foobar does not sound better, even their webpage says so.
 
Dec 17, 2004 at 12:09 AM Post #4 of 17
I haven't used Foobar in a long time (on OS X now), but I thought the makers always had an eye on footprint, and wouldn't implement a major GUI, like Winamp Skinz. Seems anti-Foobar.
 
Dec 17, 2004 at 12:29 AM Post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by blessingx
I haven't used Foobar in a long time (on OS X now), but I thought the makers always had an eye on footprint, and wouldn't implement a major GUI, like Winamp Skinz. Seems anti-Foobar.


Precisely. They wanted something small and functional, which is what Winamp originall was, back in the 2.xx series. Winamp 3 was a disgrace, and 5 is even worse. For the ultimate small, of course, ditch that clunky GUI and get a command line player
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Dec 17, 2004 at 12:49 AM Post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by 450
...I get the ability to get a fully functioning WinAMP 2.xx skin
AND
the ability to utilize WinAMP DSP plug-ins (Enhancer .17 specifically)...

Can it be done?



AFAIK there's no way to use winamp skins, but I know a foobar plugin for winamp DSPs, look here , its called "bridge plugun for winamp DSP plugin ".
This "plugun" has a long way to go until it becomes a reliable plugin, but nevertheless I'm using it because I really like the adjustable headplug crossfeed for winamp.
Downsides:
-- Only one winamp DSP at a time
-- From time to time something crashes and you get a error message from foobar that it can't find a dll.Reinstalling the dll fixes the problem, done in 10 seconds when you are used to it.
Fortunately it never crashes during a song.
 
Dec 17, 2004 at 1:03 AM Post #7 of 17
I have seen winamp skins before when I was browsing for skins a long time ago. Do a search for it in google, it shouldnt be too hard to find.
Though, why anyone would want to inhibit the functionality of foobar by using a winamp skin is beyond me.
 
Dec 17, 2004 at 12:32 PM Post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by Stephonovich
Winamp 3 was a disgrace, and 5 is even worse.


Winamp 3 was a horrible piece of software but winamp 5 is a lot better. It's way more closer to 2 than 3.
 
Dec 17, 2004 at 2:15 PM Post #9 of 17
The lite version of Winamp 5 is less then one Mb to download, the memory footprint on my 512 Mb Notebook is 2-3 Mb. For me that is small enough - so I am having a hard time finding a reason to switch.
 
Dec 18, 2004 at 3:29 AM Post #12 of 17
The thing to remember about foobar is that it can take a lot of customization in order to get it working how you want it to. The Hydrogenaudio forums are very probably a much better place to ask questions about how to get to that point.

I can offer a few tips in that you want to get the "special" installer from the foobar2k website, and then on top of that install the newest beta version of foo_ui_columns. What formatting string you use for that (that is, the "skin" or visual style) is up to you, the one I happen to use is called Azrael (I think), and it has a number of colored themes to use within it. I also recommend the albumlist panel plugin (foo_uie_albumlist) alond with the tabbed panel plugin (foo_uie_tabs). AThis, with some tweaking and application of the proper settings, will yield an interface that's much easier on the eyes, as below (click the image for a full-size verision:



Of course, you could always just go to Winamp 5. Nothing wrong with it (despite some claims to the contrary, it's mostly just winamp 2.9x with better skin support), and it's got a pretty good media library built right in. Foobar isn't for everybody.
 
Dec 18, 2004 at 7:05 AM Post #13 of 17
my head hurts looking at that foobar library - and the sad thing is that it is probably the best organized version ive seen. i'll stick to itunes thanks.
 
Dec 18, 2004 at 4:36 PM Post #14 of 17
Well, I could organize it further by genre or something. What you see there is just my configuration. I just have the panel on the left there sorted by directory structure, and that suits me fine.
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Most other foobar users I've talked to hardly ever look at the interface, actually. They set up playlists and then just let it sit in the system tray while they control it with global hotkeys. I have a lot of music and actualy like a player that's a bit easier on the eyes, so I invested some time into making it a bit prettier while improving usability.

But hey, if you're happy with iTunes, that's fine. Personally, I can't stand it's interface or the fact that it doesn support anything but mp3 and AAC without a (frequently buggy) third-party plugin.
 
Dec 18, 2004 at 7:28 PM Post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Stephonovich
Precisely. They wanted something small and functional, which is what Winamp originall was, back in the 2.xx series. Winamp 3 was a disgrace, and 5 is even worse. For the ultimate small, of course, ditch that clunky GUI and get a command line player
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This is classic Linux logic. Let's make things more complicated and have less functions...but it's better! Haha, if you complain about WinAmp using resources I don't recall it ever eating 30% CPU when resampling and EQ'ing like every Foobar FAQ on this site will tell you to do. And let's face it - if WinAmp eats a big enough percentage of your resources to make a noticable difference in performance you have other problems.

WinAmp rocks! If it did Kernel Streaming properly I'd still be using it today...and now that I'm getting an EMU with good ASIO support I'll probably be going back.

--Illah
 

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