denon dcp 150 , sony d303 , sony d311 , aiwa xp7 shotout
Sep 20, 2004 at 10:30 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 25

boodi

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Originally Posted by boodi
The Denon DCP 150
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It's said to be top of pdcps ! Has been marked by Denon as "precision audio component" in the not so far 1992 ; it is tanky built and quite heavy to be a portable unit . It has both line out and digital out ,and 2 dacs inside . There's a "boost" 3 level adjustable switch , which add some extra stage and also upfront the sound . The sound of the line out is rich , quite flat and neutral ( if compared to other pdcp ) . Bass is present . The Denon pdcp is the only pdcp that can clearly stand against some budget home cdp . The headphone out perform well and can drive to average volume ( = 6 ) the sennheiser hd650 , then some distortions appear . As I'm typing I'm using the two paired , the sound is beautiful .


SONY D-303
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The major issue with this player is that it's picky about source . The line out is very lush and very smooth sounding . It possess the best of sony pdcp line out circuits , the sound shows his own dark character and there's very low audible distortion ( if compared to other pdcp ).There's a bass boost switch , the result when on is better then the "boost" on the Denon dcp 150 . Besides this , the player has a lower output power for hp out , so it has some difficulties with the senns hd650 . Another important thing is that this player perform better ( more body in the sound ) when ac powered then on batteries .

dcp-150 and d-303 side by side
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SONY D-311
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This Sony pdcp has gained some appeal here , and deserves a decent sound .It's beautiful and have some extra features ; soundwise it's not up to the two aforementioned .


AIWA XP7
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Finding an aiwa xp7 was relatively not easy .
This eye catchy pdcp has orange lightlines around the top plexi and on the lcd , wich show when it's on the run.
This graphite looking oldie share quite the same sony circuit that you can find if you look into the D-303 .
It sounds quite unnoticeably brighter and clearer then d303 , but mainly share the same sound .



[size=xx-small] I just had some spare time and I took some shots for a friend here who asked for them ; I decided to post them here to add again something for someone who is/will be fooled by vintage pdcp
I have added few lines to shortly describe the units and I hope this can somewhat serve to someone who's in the market for one of them[/size]
 
Sep 20, 2004 at 10:52 PM Post #2 of 25
Cool, thanks. And nice pics.

boodi, can you maybe elaborate more on the sound of the Denon 150 since I'll probably never going to own one due to its high pricetag? For example would say that the Denon is significantly better than the D303?

I agree with you that the D311's line out isn't quite on par with the D303's line out. The D311 is imo overhyped and overpriced.
 
Sep 20, 2004 at 11:05 PM Post #3 of 25
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Originally Posted by saint.panda
can you maybe elaborate more on the sound of the Denon 150 since I'll probably never going to own one due to its high pricetag? For example would say that the Denon is significantly better than the D303?


I'll try to say something more , maybe this can clarify things a bit around the king of portables ..
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The dcp 150 is a well balanced unit .

This is a good goal for a portable unit .Well balanced means that when you listen to the dcp 150 there's not any overemphasys or frqs. dump. , there's no a noticeable "hard" digital harshness ( this thing is very good for a portable again ) the bass is present ( rare thing for portables ) , you don't feel there's something missing nor something wrong . I can't say for exemple the dcp 150 has good separation as this would be a be a lie ..I mean : I can't listen to an opera or a concert trough this little machine and pretend to have a , let's say, incredible experience ,this becuase its capabilities are limited . Anyway I can listen to it and use it as a full size machine while working on pc , and i don't feel complaining about anything .

I'll say also is my opinion the quality of the sound is been pushed as far as it can go with this little tank , and if a good amp pair with it, the sound coming from can be quite complete . I'd stop here and not talk about separation , coherence and soundstage for this player , as it seems a bit too much .

..the other side of the moon is dark and beautiful too : the d303 has a character , as i yet said , and it's good character . It's dark , and surprisingly smooth , and yet remains very detailed (!) What can you ask more from a travel companion
The denon doesn't surprise me on recurrent listenings , d303 ( as well as XP7 ) can give surprise . It's more emotional
 
Sep 20, 2004 at 11:57 PM Post #4 of 25
Sweet review. When I first got on Head-Fi, there were more threads about PCDPs than DAPs which has obvious changed now. Since I got my cheapie GPX, I've been thinking about doing a head-to-head comparison between it and my DCP-150. It would be very interesting, at least I think it would be. I might actually do it, ever since Duncan paused his amazing PCDP review, I haven't seen much activity about PCDPs. Even though DAPs are the way of the future, I still really enjoy PCDPs. Curious though...what amp did you pair with the Denon?
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 12:21 AM Post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by Oddball
what amp did you pair with the Denon?


I paired it mainly with the amp that's showing in my sig ( Rudistor Rp5 Reference ) ; it is a quite revealing amp , and loves flat sources ( it's a demi-tube amp )
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 3:09 AM Post #6 of 25
Boodi,

Excellent review and beautiful pics of the various vintage PCDP's. All of the vintage PCDP's listed there are excellent players and each brings with it a unique sound for your listening pleasure. Of the PCDP's listed above the only I don't have in is the Awia XP7, maybe I might go for one in the near future if the price is right.
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 8:44 AM Post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by warubozu
Boodi,
Awia XP7, maybe I might go for one in the near future if the price is right.



I remember ...it was quite difficult to find this let's say "exotic" pdcp .I have grabbed it on ebay this year around march if memory recall well .
..have you noticed how his look chains incredibly well in the picutre with the Blade Runner Soundtrack aside ...??
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sorry I'm a big fan of this film so...
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Sep 21, 2004 at 12:58 PM Post #9 of 25
Can you confirm that the D-303 and the XP-7 share the same innards? When I listened to them side by side, I found the XP-7 to be a marked downgrade in sound quality from the D-303.
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 4:33 PM Post #11 of 25
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Originally Posted by smith
Any one no what the differences are between the Denon dcp150 & the 100...
is it features or just sound quality ?

I have the dcp 100 model
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To me the DCP-150 is a little more accurate and has a wider sound stage than the DCP-100. When I listen to the DCP-150 I tend to be a little more critical as it stands up and makes you take notice just how well this PCDP sounds. The level of detail for a PCDP thru the DCP-150 IMO is also slightly better than the DCP-100.
The DCP-100 is a PCDP that is fun to listen. It's not as detailed and the sound stage is a bit smaller than the DCP-150 but can very well hold it own against the D-311 and the AZ6819. It was described in another thread that the DCP-100 has a 3D like sound effect. It gives the impression that one is listening to music in a huge room without it sounding bloated. I use the DCP-100 when I just want to listen and enjoy the music and not be so critical as to how accurate or detailed the PCDP is.
As far as differences in features the DCP-150 has bass boost, remote control, line out, and a digital optical line out where as the DCP-100 has just a line out if I'm not mistaken. Both PCDPs are great sounding units.

Also check the link below for another review between the DCP-150 and DCP-100:

http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67943
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 4:50 PM Post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by insomniac
Can you confirm that the D-303 and the XP-7 share the same innards? When I listened to them side by side, I found the XP-7 to be a marked downgrade in sound quality from the D-303.


probably the clearer/brighter presentation of the aiwa xp-7 can be in part descibed as a downgrade - anyway I really haven't noticed it as a clear downgrade, more of a brighter presentation . I've mainly used the aiwa trough the hpout though .

And ..
I can't recall where i read about the circuitery ( it was when I was searching it , and you know there are not really many informations on the web about this cd player ) Anyway .. for what i recall I've read it clearly somewhere , this thing has remained somewhat clearly impressed in mind .
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 6:41 PM Post #14 of 25
Please note that the D311 does NOT have anti-shock, whereas the D321 does
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Its kinda funny that I was one of the last (eccentric) PCDP hunters... I wonder if anyone will ever take over from where I left off..
 
Sep 21, 2004 at 7:00 PM Post #15 of 25
i think, all the best pcdp's are known by now...every collector know which one to go for..marantz,jvc,denon,philips and sony..

perhaps it's time to look for portable r2r's..
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or, portable DAT
 

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