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DENAFRIPS 'ARES' R2R discrete ladder DAC - close up view
Mar 8, 2017 at 2:03 PM Post #361 of 3,907
By few days I got to know this brand of R2R dac, I bought to start an Ares Dac and I am in touch with the manager Vinshine Audio Alvin Chee in Singapore.
Now I am waiting to receive the dac by DHL courier, the first impressions that I can report is the excellent customer care by Alvin, he responds very quickly to my emails, also in consideration of the time zone that exists between Italy and Singapore, is very helpful to any question, for now I can say I am really very very satisfied.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 3:39 PM Post #362 of 3,907
lorywiv said:
Very helpful, thank you. Can you comment on whether this automatic oversampling undermines the supposed sound quality advantage of NOS direct / discrete output that resister ladder DAC's (in principle) offer?
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I am guessing that depending on the input frequency the oversampling can occur in stages before the ladder.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 6:56 PM Post #363 of 3,907
rodion manko said:
  Initially, the wah effect of the DAC-68 did not cause. But after warming up the sound became much better: larger, more energetic, more balanced and now in my opinion it is at the level of much more expensive DACs. Now my old DAC (Audio-GD (2015)) does not stand any comparison with it. Since it has a more dry, meat-free bones, an analytical sound, with an emphasis on high frequencies with characteristic chime for Sabre 9018S. Also, despite the excellent async USB in the DAC-68 after buying a network player (SOtM sMS-200) the sound became even better - more emotional, involving and with a deeper bass. As a result my old DAC (Audio-GD) offered for sale.
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I been sitting on the fence about purchasing the SotM SMS-200.   Can you please PM with your experience as I don't want to derail this thread. 
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 7:04 PM Post #364 of 3,907

 
My Ares arrived from Vinshine just a few minutes ago - it only took four days from order to delivery, so I'm quite impressed.  Nothing to report on the sound yet, as I haven't plugged it in.  A couple of things to note: build quality looks top quality, it's very heavy (for its relatively small size) and I think the font used on the front panel might have been changed.  The font is less Chinese looking and is more subtle now - nice!
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:15 PM Post #367 of 3,907
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:40 PM Post #369 of 3,907
Since there isn't much traffic in this thread, I don't mind some discuss what source one use to feed the ARES. I believe we will learn what input works best with the ARES. Discussions about the player can be useful as well i.e. since HQplayer upsamples which ARES does as well, is it a good thing upsampling in the player or in the ARES? Just my 2 cents (or fils) :grin::grin::grin:
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:50 PM Post #370 of 3,907
I spent about 3 hours with the different filters in HQP to get to upsample to DSD256.  Too early for me to comment on the sound quality. Currently I am trialling Roon and HQ player.  
 
I have used Foobar, Roon and HQP with USB input at this stage on the ARES. With foobar I didn't like the sound when PCM was upsampled DSD256.  Since ARES only supports 44.1K DSD, 48, 96 and 192  needs to be converted to 352.8 before upsampling. Since we know that ARES does not OS DSD I prefer upsampling in HQP, Foobar or Roon. 
 
Even though the DAC upsamples it all depends on what type of filter is being employed in the DAC. 
 
Lots of experimentation is required on my part to figure out what sound's better. Long way to go for this audiofool. 
 
BTW if anyone is interested https://community.roonlabs.com/t/what-do-most-people-use-hq-player-for/7393/40
 
Mar 9, 2017 at 12:33 AM Post #372 of 3,907
lukeap69 said:
Since there isn't much traffic in this thread, I don't mind some discuss what source one use to feed the ARES. I believe we will learn what input works best with the ARES. Discussions about the player can be useful as well i.e. since HQplayer upsamples which ARES does as well, is it a good thing upsampling in the player or in the ARES? Just my 2 cents (or fils) :grin::grin::grin:
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I wouldnt stress the Ares with so many caps in it.:grinning:
 
Mar 9, 2017 at 1:07 AM Post #373 of 3,907
slex said:
I wouldnt stress the Ares with so many caps in it.:grinning:
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LOL. You make a good point but perhaps those caps will hold their own. Hopefully... :grin:
 
Mar 9, 2017 at 2:01 AM Post #375 of 3,907
lukeap69 said:
LOL. You make a good point but perhaps those caps will hold their own. Hopefully... :grin:
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I know its early but is Ares sound better then your audiogd DAC19? Any house sound signature you pick up?
 
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