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Maybe this helps a bit, here's what I wrote to a friend about the Prophile-8. Take it with a grain of salt though, as it was only a rather short audition (< 1hour).
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Maybe this helps a bit, here's what I wrote to a friend about the Prophile-8. Take it with a grain of salt though, as it was only a rather short audition (< 1hour).
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When I saw the FR from Marco there were no peaks at 7-8K. there was a rolloff after 10K so treble is not aggressive or peaky. Its warmer than UERM. Detail retrival and layering is better.
Boring - If you are looking for fun sounding Prophile-8 is not right choice.
Quote: Its tuning is close to neutral, seamless and coherent. Yes thats the right way to describe it.
Boring - If you are looking for fun sounding Prophile-8 is not right choice.
Quote: Its tuning is close to neutral, seamless and coherent. Yes thats the right way to describe it.
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Above posts noted and thanks.
Well, I can comfirm a slight emphasis at 8kHz by ear.
I did see the measurement as well but can't really remember details. Keep in mind that measurement are highly unreliable above 10kHz.
While listening to sine waves there definitely wasn't a roll off above 10kHz.
I did see the measurement as well but can't really remember details. Keep in mind that measurement are highly unreliable above 10kHz.
While listening to sine waves there definitely wasn't a roll off above 10kHz.
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The 7-8kHz emphasis may well depend on fit / tips. I tried two different pairs of silicone tips and heard it with both, but didn't have foam tips at hand. Anyway, the emphasis was by no means offensive, so not really an issue in my book.
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Was this emphasis heard with sine sweeps or listening to music? Just wondering how you pinpointed the 7-8khz range
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In this case, with a sine sweep. A stronger peak in that range, I can usually detect with my sibilance test tracks (Al Stewart - Coldest Winter in Memory; Florence And The Machine - Ship To Wreck). But on the Profile-8, the emphasis was only slight and didn't exacerbate sibilance, so I didn't notice it with these tracks.
That's why I called it an inoffensive peak: the sine sweep showed it was there, but I didn't feel that it caused any harm to actual music.
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I don't find neutrality boring in this instance. Of course something like the Vega will be more of a slap in your face if you really want the music to grab you by the gonades.
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even in the "reference "setting the 8 isn't boring and neutral at all. It's the musical kind of neutral where bass even without the switch has good impact and punch
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Hello everybody.
Can someone please comparing the Prophile 8 and Andromeda?
Thank you in advance.
Can someone please comparing the Prophile 8 and Andromeda?
Thank you in advance.
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A little bit of comparison today between the Prophile-8 from In-Ear and the S-EM9 from Earsonics. Both driven by the Sony WM1Z, the S-EM9 balanced and the Prophile-8 single ended because I don't have the adequate cable (nobody does at this stage).
First important difference is stage and music presentation. The Prophile has a wider stage that is much closer, surrounding you. You are in the middle of the music. The S-EM9 has a narrower stage, further in front of you. The music is still airy and well separated, but less involving and more laid back.
Mids have more or less similar clarity but due to the stage presentation, the voices on the earsonics sound more distant and very up close and intimate on the Prophile.
Bass wise, the S-EM9 has slightly more mid bass, but if you switch the bass on on the Prophile-8, the mid bass will have more impact than on the S-EM9. Subbass seems equally extended.
Highs seem similarly extended, but in neutral position Prophile-8 highs are slightly smoother, and if you turn on the high switch, they become similar, maybe even more edgy on the Prophile-8.
In terms of details the Prophile will have the edge, not that it had more details, but the fact they are more up close makes them easier to hear.
Finally in terms of speed, while the Prophile-8 is no slouch, maybe the S-EM9 has a very slight edge...if it does it is not obvious.
Overall, I would say that at this stage they play in the same category, but the Prophile drags you more into the music, and has the switch to adjust to preference.
Both among the top universals I have heard.
Keep in mind things could change if they were both balanced...
First important difference is stage and music presentation. The Prophile has a wider stage that is much closer, surrounding you. You are in the middle of the music. The S-EM9 has a narrower stage, further in front of you. The music is still airy and well separated, but less involving and more laid back.
Mids have more or less similar clarity but due to the stage presentation, the voices on the earsonics sound more distant and very up close and intimate on the Prophile.
Bass wise, the S-EM9 has slightly more mid bass, but if you switch the bass on on the Prophile-8, the mid bass will have more impact than on the S-EM9. Subbass seems equally extended.
Highs seem similarly extended, but in neutral position Prophile-8 highs are slightly smoother, and if you turn on the high switch, they become similar, maybe even more edgy on the Prophile-8.
In terms of details the Prophile will have the edge, not that it had more details, but the fact they are more up close makes them easier to hear.
Finally in terms of speed, while the Prophile-8 is no slouch, maybe the S-EM9 has a very slight edge...if it does it is not obvious.
Overall, I would say that at this stage they play in the same category, but the Prophile drags you more into the music, and has the switch to adjust to preference.
Both among the top universals I have heard.
Keep in mind things could change if they were both balanced...
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I was about to ask about the sound stage so you beat me to it. Thanks, BTW, good image.
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A little bit of comparison today between the Prophile-8 from In-Ear and the S-EM9 from Earsonics. Both driven by the Sony WM1Z, the S-EM9 balanced and the Prophile-8 single ended because I don't have the adequate cable (nobody does at this stage).
First important difference is stage and music presentation. The Prophile has a wider stage that is much closer, surrounding you. You are in the middle of the music. The S-EM9 has a narrower stage, further in front of you. The music is still airy and well separated, but less involving and more laid back.
Mids have more or less similar clarity but due to the stage presentation, the voices on the earsonics sound more distant and very up close and intimate on the Prophile.
Bass wise, the S-EM9 has slightly more mid bass, but if you switch the bass on on the Prophile-8, the mid bass will have more impact than on the S-EM9. Subbass seems equally extended.
Highs seem similarly extended, but in neutral position Prophile-8 highs are slightly smoother, and if you turn on the high switch, they become similar, maybe even more edgy on the Prophile-8.
In terms of details the Prophile will have the edge, not that it had more details, but the fact they are more up close makes them easier to hear.
Finally in terms of speed, while the Prophile-8 is no slouch, maybe the S-EM9 has a very slight edge...if it does it is not obvious.
Overall, I would say that at this stage they play in the same category, but the Prophile drags you more into the music, and has the switch to adjust to preference.
Both among the top universals I have heard.
Keep in mind things could change if they were both balanced...
Might be slightly off topic, but where did you get the balanced cable for the SM9? I can't seem to find anywhere that ships to the US for the new Sony balanced. My WM1Z just came in and I'm excited to try it with the Prophile 8.
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