I was listening to the radio today and this nice police officer was interviewed talking about his job.

He said one time he had to break up a fist fight between a husband and a wife in their house. As the husband was punching his wife, the cop grabbed the husband to protect the lady.

The wife then started to attack the cop and tried to beat him up. I gotta tell ya, wives can be crazy.

She realized she needs her man to bring in a paycheck.

protegemaniac said:

 

And this is all why I would never, ever, get married. Just thinking about how much a divorce can cost you makes me dizzy.

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Which is why there are prenuptial agreements.

I agree men can be crazy too. I used to work with this 50 year old guy who only ate burgers, pizza, chicken nuggets and soda and microwave food. Basically it was children's cafeteria food.

He never understood the concept of good food. He also got arrested for indecent exposure. So yeah, what a weirdo. And his odd wife ate steak with ketchup. She was out of her mind too.

What do you mean "wives can be crazy"  ?
 
It should read "wives are crazy"....!
It's caused by being married.
 
i.e. I there was no marriage there would not be any crazy wives......     

Ill add a lot of men are nuts. Im talking about the ones that go to work, pay all the bills, do everything they are asked to do and they cant buy anything of value for themselves. Many of the husbands that do treat themselves end up hiding their purchase from their wives.

music alchemist said:

 
Which is why there are prenuptial agreements.

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Some people get insulted by those, either truly insulted or because they plan on taking whatever you have just in case.
 
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jmills8 said:

Ill add a lot of men are nuts. Im talking about the ones that go to work, pay all the bills, do everything they are asked to do and they cant buy anything of value for themselves. Many of the husbands that do treat themselves end up hiding their purchase from their wives.

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As a reader of the ideas of Jeremy Bentham I agree that that has to be some kind of insanity.
 

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i.e. I there was no marriage there would not be any crazy wives......  

  

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And as long as unmarried people have access to veterinary care, stray cats will have a home and will get neutered.

protegemaniac said:

  Some people get insulted by those, either truly insulted or because they plan on taking whatever you have just in case.

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If she's insulted by a basic security measure, that just means she's not ever going to get to marry me.
 
I think the entire modern marriage system is a violation of basic human rights on many counts. I mean, "What's mine is mine; what's yours is yours." should be the default, not the exception. No one should be allowed to legally steal property (that they did not earn) from someone else simply because they were in a relationship with that person.

protegemaniac said:

 

I don't understand marriage to begin with, even at its core. Why would I give up autonomous decision-making and use of whatever space I own for...well, I wouldn't even know what benefits you're supposed to get from marriage. It's all costs and no benefits on my balance sheet.

 

And people can't even clarify to me what it's all about. People keep telling me, "but you wouldn't want to die alone!" What ignorance - there are old people whose partners died ahead of them and then their children put them in retirement homes. Does everyone think it should be like Hitler and Eva dying within minutes of each other? If that was the case then I should get married in India, that way when I die they'll toss my wife into the pyre. But then again, the fact that I'd have to change my shopping habits and never buy steak again, and probably have to buy a new set of carbon steel and cast iron cookware because I cook beef all the time, is going to be a total PITA. Bollywood chicks are hot but not hot enough to give up Prime Rib for.

 

Then they tell me to not live alone. Uh, I see my friends once in a while, and I have cats. Then they elaborate that what would happen if I had emergencies. I'm saving up for the time when home security systems come with a heart monitor so if it stops EMS will be on its way to my house while they call my phone. Also my wallet has the contact numbers of animal shelters so my cats can get picked up.

 

It gets worse. I say that you'd have to be dumb to get married, people think it's bad. Bruno Mars sings, "looking for something dumb to do, I think I wanna marry you" and they go, "awwwwwwwwww." WHAT. 

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You should watch the first episode of The Boondocks if you haven't already. What the grandpa says about marriage is priceless.
 
Also, cats. They are the best. (=^‥^=)
 
But I guess marriage / cohabitation is for those who want to spend *lots* of time with someone. (And, of course, for those who want to have children; I don't.) I'd have to find someone who spends a lot of time on the same hobbies as me for that to work: listening to music with headphones, watching anime and other media, playing video games, etc.

protegemaniac said:

 

 

I don't understand marriage to begin with, even at its core. Why would I give up autonomous decision-making and use of whatever space I own for...well, I wouldn't even know what benefits you're supposed to get from marriage. It's all costs and no benefits on my balance sheet.

 

And people can't even clarify to me what it's all about. People keep telling me, "but you wouldn't want to die alone!" What ignorance - there are old people whose partners died ahead of them and then their children put them in retirement homes. Does everyone think it should be like Hitler and Eva dying within minutes of each other? If that was the case then I should get married in India, that way when I die they'll toss my wife into the pyre. But then again, the fact that I'd have to change my shopping habits and never buy steak again, and probably have to buy a new set of carbon steel and cast iron cookware because I cook beef all the time, is going to be a total PITA. Bollywood chicks are hot but not hot enough to give up Prime Rib for.

 

Then they tell me to not live alone. Uh, I see my friends once in a while, and I have cats. Then they elaborate that what would happen if I had emergencies. I'm saving up for the time when home security systems come with a heart monitor so if it stops EMS will be on its way to my house while they call my phone. Also my wallet has the contact numbers of animal shelters so my cats can get picked up.

 

It gets worse. I say that you'd have to be dumb to get married, people think it's bad. Bruno Mars sings, "looking for something dumb to do, I think I wanna marry you" and they go, "awwwwwwwwww." WHAT. 

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Just because marriage doesn't work for you it doesn't mean it's dumb and can't work for someone else. Ask someone (preferably not someone who's about to get divorced) with a wife and children if friends and cats could make up for them. They will most likely say "no". That's probably why they are married in the first place.
I'm not saying you should be like them but damn, is it it actually so hard to understand that not everyone shares your point of view (and not out of stupidity) or you just made an over-generalization because you didn't expect anyone to be so butthurt about it?

protegemaniac said:

 

Yeah but why is it cute when Bruno Mars says it? It's almost exactly the same except he phrased it somewhat differently, but he still called it "dumb." You're missing the point in how the section you highlighted was phrased - I said it that way because I told relatives that but got a completely different reaction than when Bruno Mars sings it.

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I have no idea why it's considered cute. What I know is that some songs are made to be relatable. What he says is quite relatable because marriage can often be a dumb idea and a lot of people realise that a bit late.
 

protegemaniac said:

 

And that's not even just ranting, I know from actual experience. There was one time I had an outburst with a now-ex, and I said, "this is sooooo stupid!" After we broke up she and her new guy were into that song. I ended with my tea going up my nostrils because I couldn't help laughing mid-sip when they started humming it. Yes, that's a really dumb idea, but I'm not gonna stop him - he'll have to find that out for himself. Last I heard they moved out of the city to his family's farm, and then not two years later she left him with their kid and she's living in another city. See and she hated me when I suggested she take Prozac or something.

 

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Please note I wasn't suggesting that it's "working" for everyone else but you. As far as I know, a lot of people are divorced and for them, marriage definitely wasn't a good idea, except if one of the partner looked at the marriage as a quick way to make buck because in that case, it was a good idea for one of them. I heard it happens more than it should. But just because (probably, I didn't check) over half of the marriages end with a divorce it doesn't mean it doesn't mean you have to be flat out dumb to get married. Maybe some people are dumb who get into it or they just have tough luck but there are still marriages which don't end with a divorce.
 
 

protegemaniac said:

 

As for how it "works" for others, it doesn't even "work" the way they tell me it will work. Read the rest of that post. They tell me it's bad to die alone, but there are married people with dead spouses just waiting to die in retirement homes, so in effect, they will still die alone, unlike what family members keep yapping about. On top of that if I'm dying I don't want to be surrounded by my family, considering what they do in such situations. Like whipping out bottles of bacteria-laden water from some haunted pool in Francethat they'll shake all over me like salt over potatoes. I'm already dying, damn it, why the need to infect me with your athlete's foot.

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I personally don't think that marriage is about how you die, it's rather about how you live.  At least if I ever get married it won't be because I would feel bad about dying alone. It's probably very hard to leave a family alone that you love and dying alone is the easy way out. And that's the whole point, people will pursue different dreams for different reasons. People may want to share their life with a partner, People may want to make their last moments to pass easier and they think marriage is a solution. Why would you call all of them fools? You surely don't think that everyone will get divorced and scammed, and will die alone in retirement homes at the end, right?
 
So yeah, to point it out again, marriage can indeed work. I've seen it but since I don't have a wikipedia link for that, you'll just have to take my word for it.