mrrayray said:

Mine didn't get warm after hours of listening to even quad DSD music.

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That's great, my AK240 and Opus #2 get warm even playing 16bit 44.1khz.

audionewbi said:

I am over the 1000 hour, not to brag 570 hours single ended and will keep on burning in the balance till I hit the 1000 hour.

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All this Burning is for the dap to get more open sounding and less warm and conjested ?

jmills8 said:

All this Burning is for the dap to get more open sounding and less warm and conjested ?

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It had it burning somewhere in my room and I sort of forgot about it ever since I got my balance cable. I am the sort of guy who will not enjoy the gear till all things around it is sorted. Plan is to let it keep burning till I have a respectable after market cable in my hand. So for now I am just letting it run to eliminate any chances of device not been fully burned in once my good cable arrives. 

Warming up for 1A

phonomat said:

Let me get this straight: You let your unit play all the time? Day and night? Even after some potential "burn-in" would be done?

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I have so far, though the intention is not to do that forever. It's more from falling into the initial burn in procedure of plugging it in when I get home, and putting the IEM into drawer, still playing,  closing the drawer so it does not bother anybody, and then unplugging it in the morning, using it/running it in all day, etc. and then repeating plugging it in when I got home.  Before I knew it, the hours had reached a 1000 hours.  
 
It has been discussed previously that Sony's recommendation of 200 hours is a conservative number, and there may be a gain from more hours.  The experience with the ZX2 is that there were gains at about double the recommended hours, thus a guestimate for the WM1x of 400 hours (double the recommendation) was at the back of my mind.  I have an earlier post on finding that there was a significant improvement in sound stage and detail at around 500-550 hours, which I had not expected.  Though I don't really expect more major changes, I do think that continual usage will settle it in just that little bit more.  And it can't hurt it.
 
It's just a mindset that I believe in letting it get run in, and I don't worry about it running too long, and I don't believe that there is a finite amount of hours that I am using up.  The converse, where I think running it in more is good for it.
 
Of course, for people who are worried that running it when not using it is using up its lifetime, like using up the hours of a life, then by all means, don't do what I do.  Do what your are comfortable with.

how do you know so precisely the burn in time ?

flipper203 said:

  how do you know so precisely the burn in time ?

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Settings/Unit Information and it shows under Audio Played.

ok, I have 101h played, but no detail about SE / balanced. I thought I used it more.....

ttt123 said:

  I have so far, though the intention is not to do that forever. It's more from falling into the initial burn in procedure of plugging it in when I get home, and putting the IEM into drawer, still playing,  closing the drawer so it does not bother anybody, and then unplugging it in the morning, using it/running it in all day, etc. and then repeating plugging it in when I got home.  Before I knew it, the hours had reached a 1000 hours.  
 
It has been discussed previously that Sony's recommendation of 200 hours is a conservative number, and there may be a gain from more hours.  The experience with the ZX2 is that there were gains at about double the recommended hours, thus a guestimate for the WM1x of 400 hours (double the recommendation) was at the back of my mind.  I have an earlier post on finding that there was a significant improvement in sound stage and detail at around 500-550 hours, which I had not expected.  Though I don't really expect more major changes, I do think that continual usage will settle it in just that little bit more.  And it can't hurt it.
 
It's just a mindset that I believe in letting it get run in, and I don't worry about it running too long, and I don't believe that there is a finite amount of hours that I am using up.  The converse, where I think running it in more is good for it.
 
Of course, for people who are worried that running it when not using it is using up its lifetime, like using up the hours of a life, then by all means, don't do what I do.  Do what your are comfortable with.

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Thanks, I was just curious, and that sounds a lot more sensible. Believe it or not, I'd actually be more concerned about this from an economical/environmental perspective. Depending on how you're inclined, you could probably light the whole of Manhattan or just directly melt a couple dozen glaciers with all the juice "needed" for (or rather "wasted" on? ) the "burn-in" done on this site alone ... but I know saying that in this specific environment will only make me sound like a tree-huggin' hippie, so I'll just say "carry on" instead. 

phonomat said:

   
Thanks, I was just curious, and that sounds a lot more sensible. Believe it or not, I'd actually be more concerned about this from an economical/environmental perspective. Depending on how you're inclined, you could probably light the whole of Manhattan or just directly melt a couple dozen glaciers with all the juice "needed" for (or rather "wasted" on?

) the "burn-in" done on this site alone ... but I know saying that in this specific environment will only make me sound like a tree-huggin' hippie, so I'll just say "carry on" instead. 

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Not really an issue with the WM1.  Remember this baby runs on a tiny 1800mAh battery and gets 30-40hrs of continuous playback time, it's easily way more efficient than the smartphone in your pocket that you probably charge twice a day. 

phonomat said:

   
Thanks, I was just curious, and that sounds a lot more sensible. Believe it or not, I'd actually be more concerned about this from an economical/environmental perspective. Depending on how you're inclined, you could probably light the whole of Manhattan or just directly melt a couple dozen glaciers with all the juice "needed" for (or rather "wasted" on?

) the "burn-in" done on this site alone ... but I know saying that in this specific environment will only make me sound like a tree-huggin' hippie, so I'll just say "carry on" instead. 

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Well, everything is relative .  As Nanaholic has commented, the WM1x power usage is very small, though I take your point that every little bit counts, and conservation is a mindset, and not restricted to deciding how much energy needlessly used is not a waste.  Though whether what we are doing is needful or not, I'm afraid even the people on this forum may have violent disagreements on the "need".  
 
Now, just to be clear, I am of the firm opinion that there is an absolute need to keep the electrons flowing in the WM1A, as there is a very short life'ed sentient species inhabiting the circuit board, and their civilization depends on me keeping the power flowing without cessation......
 
Think of it another way.  Everybody on this forum has music reproduction as their addiction and hobby, and we are quietly fondling our DAPS, cables and IEMs and headphones, and not out drinking, or driving cars with massive carbon footprints. (though we COULD be drinking at the same time....)  Think of how much more energy we could be wasting doing other things, if not for our benign affliction.

I recommend at least 10 000 hours of burn in to reach the full potential. I heard day and night changes between 9985 hours and 10 000. Anything less and the 1Z sounds like pig farts honestly.

mimouille said:

I recommend at least 10 000 hours of burn in to reach the full potential. I heard day and night changes between 9985 hours and 10 000. Anything less and the 1Z sounds like pig farts honestly.

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I'll be watching for that number.  Also, 10,000 is a very auspicious number in the East, so definitely something to aim for.  "Banzai" means 10,000 years, FYI.
 
If you have a recording of pig farts, as I am lacking that auditory knowledge?

ttt123 said:

I'll be watching for that number.  Also, 10,000 is a very auspicious number in the East, so definitely something to aim for.  "Banzai" means 10,000 years, FYI.

If you have a recording of pig farts, as I am lacking that auditory knowledge?

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Just listen to any music before 10k and that is what you will get...unbearable.

nanaholic said:

   
Not really an issue with the WM1.  Remember this baby runs on a tiny 1800mAh battery and gets 30-40hrs of continuous playback time, it's easily way more efficient than the smartphone in your pocket that you probably charge twice a day. 

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I'm on once a day currently (S7 edge), but just 'cause I constantly read this site on my phone.  
 

ttt123 said:

  Well, everything is relative 

.  As Nanaholic has commented, the WM1x power usage is very small, though I take your point that every little bit counts, and conservation is a mindset, and not restricted to deciding how much energy needlessly used is not a waste.  Though whether what we are doing is needful or not, I'm afraid even the people on this forum may have violent disagreements on the "need".  
 
Now, just to be clear, I am of the firm opinion that there is an absolute need to keep the electrons flowing in the WM1A, as there is a very short life'ed sentient species inhabiting the circuit board, and their civilization depends on me keeping the power flowing without cessation......
 
Think of it another way.  Everybody on this forum has music reproduction as their addiction and hobby, and we are quietly fondling our DAPS, cables and IEMs and headphones, and not out drinking, or driving cars with massive carbon footprints. (though we COULD be drinking at the same time....)  Think of how much more energy we could be wasting doing other things, if not for our benign affliction.

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Now that makes sense! 
 

mimouille said:

I recommend at least 10 000 hours of burn in to reach the full potential. I heard day and night changes between 9985 hours and 10 000. Anything less and the 1Z sounds like pig farts honestly.

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That's the spirit! Although a pity for those who burn it in on their heads.