AUDIO over IP - REDNET 3 & 16 Review. AES67 Sets A New Standard for Computer Audio

Jul 3, 2016 at 8:46 PM Post #931 of 3,694
I've gotta figure something out like Plastidip.

I have a Lynx E22 right now as well. The Rednet 3 is indeed a little better, but only just, with both going into my Mutec.

Size, color, and inability to follow sample rate keep making me consider offloading the Rednet, but the sound...
 
Jul 3, 2016 at 11:51 PM Post #933 of 3,694
That looks slick!! I may follow up on the plastidip -- trick is waiting enough time between coats and getting 6-7 costs so peeling is easier (if you want to go back to red).
OK spoiler alert did not work for me. Let's do this again.

To me, RedNet 3 clock sounds better as master compared to Mutec's. Utilizing 2 Mutec's as a daisy chained Spdif reclocker sounds even more awesome!

BLACKNET 3 anyone?


 
Jul 3, 2016 at 11:58 PM Post #934 of 3,694
How does the lynx work driver wise? Does it have asio support or does it show up as a sound device?

If it's close in SQ, that's half the cost it seems. A good alternative for desktop users... but the drivers.

I've gotta figure something out like Plastidip.

I have a Lynx E22 right now as well. The Rednet 3 is indeed a little better, but only just, with both going into my Mutec.

Size, color, and inability to follow sample rate keep making me consider offloading the Rednet, but the sound...



wow this thread just the other day was at like page 20 or so. 

Sliced bread?

You'll hear it at the end of the month when you come up! If you come early enough you can set up next to my rig and I can send you over a signal. The pavane has aes/ebu input? If so you can daisy chain off mine to hear what it does for your setup.
 
Jul 3, 2016 at 11:59 PM Post #935 of 3,694
How does the lynx work driver wise? Does it have asio support or does it show up as a sound device?

If it's close in SQ, that's half the cost it seems. A good alternative for desktop users... but the drivers.
I've gotta figure something out like Plastidip.

I have a Lynx E22 right now as well. The Rednet 3 is indeed a little better, but only just, with both going into my Mutec.

Size, color, and inability to follow sample rate keep making me consider offloading the Rednet, but the sound...

 
wow this thread just the other day was at like page 20 or so. 

Sliced bread?

You'll hear it at the end of the month when you come up! If you come early enough you can set up next to my rig and I can send you over a signal. The pavane has aes/ebu input? If so you can daisy chain off mine to hear what it does for your setup.

Yessir!!! I wonder if it is the same red as my tH2
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 12:10 AM Post #936 of 3,694
How does the lynx work driver wise? Does it have asio support or does it show up as a sound device?

If it's close in SQ, that's half the cost it seems. A good alternative for desktop users... but the drivers.

You'll hear it at the end of the month when you come up! If you come early enough you can set up next to my rig and I can send you over a signal. The pavane has aes/ebu input? If so you can daisy chain off mine to hear what it does for your setup.

 
The Lynx driver is rock solid so far. It supports ASIO and shows up as both a digital and analogue sound device.
 
With the Rednet, I'm still trying to track down why I randomly get a dropout about once an hour for a moment. It's super annoying.
 
Hasn't ever happened with the Lynx, but the Rednet sounds better.
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 12:42 AM Post #937 of 3,694
...., and inability to follow sample rate ....


Should be just a matter of time.
I have been told by Focusrite it is in the next release of their firmware (.. August they said).
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 3:35 AM Post #940 of 3,694
Excellent news!

To give you the actual statement from Focusrite on this issue:
 At present, DVS cannot be used to change the sample rate of RedNet devices on the network, however this is something we're looking to alter with the next release of RedNet Control, which we are aiming to have available towards the end of August (version 1.10).

Please note that, for this to work in the way you desire, the playback program you are using would need to be able to change the sample rate of the playback driver (in this case, DVS). Typically, this is only possible from playback software that utilises ASIO drivers (pretty much all DAW software + some media players such as Foobar).

With the next release of RedNet Control, once the playback software changes the sample rate DVS is working at this can be configured to also change the sample rate of other RedNet devices on your network.

 
cheers
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 4:08 AM Post #941 of 3,694
Progress report.
Last night I gotta double dose of SuperGlue, the tLFF dropped to new all time lows, which led Moar is Less to new degrees heretofore never heard before.
 
Translated that means I was captivated such that I couldn't take my headphones off, the DRC (Dynamic Range Control, aka Moar Knob), reached new heights such that the dynamic range allowed more of the subtle inner detail to be heard as the acoustic energy was more aligned to where it should be.
 
Some of the attacks and impacts were really Really, REALLY fast, and over with, and then I reacted.
Bass articulation, midrange bloom, top end meat, aplenty (meat, as in where's the beef, the substance that makes the hi-end 'real' instead of just sizzle).
And all of it was seamlessly integrated from top to bottom, from simple to complex, from WAY back in the sound field to in your face;
 
And I've only just scatched the surface with tweaking, i.e. the isoclean fuse is 'better' than the furutec, but I suspect the SR Quantum will wipe the floor with both of them.
And there is plenty more lined up just waiting for the parts to show up…
 
JJ
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM Post #942 of 3,694
I realize that this is new stuff for most of us but I am wondering if one could use one PC to send L/R channel audio to two different D16's or RN3's in two different systems. That would allow one to save the cost of a second PC when they had a main speaker system and a second speaker system or a separate headphone system.
 
I sent an email to Audinate but they suggested Dante Via which seems to be limited to 48K for now. Not a good solution. I did download Via just to try but found out that it will not even list a Dante device like my D16 if it is not set to 48K.
 
Any thoughts? 
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 8:38 AM Post #943 of 3,694
I realize that this is new stuff for most of us but I am wondering if one could use one PC to send L/R channel audio to two different D16's or RN3's in two different systems. That would allow one to save the cost of a second PC when they had a main speaker system and a second speaker system or a separate headphone system.

I sent an email to Audinate but they suggested Dante Via which seems to be limited to 48K for now. Not a good solution. I did download Via just to try but found out that it will not even list a Dante device like my D16 if it is not set to 48K.

Any thoughts? 


I would say that should not be a problem at all.
That's what a Dante system on AOIp is meant for.

I would expect that in Dante Control you would see the second D16 alongside the first D16.
You would map the channels of your DVS to both of the D16 devices as receiving devices.
That would require both D16 devices attached to the network though (so it may be you have to do proper network configuration). I am not sure if you can daisy-chain D16 devices, but maybe you can because the two ports are operating in switch mode.
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 1:35 PM Post #944 of 3,694
I would say that should not be a problem at all.
That's what a Dante system on AOIp is meant for.

Exactly... just map the 2 channels from DVS to both Rednet devices. Although since DVS can't be the master clock I wonder how that would work since Dante probably requires the clocks to by synced. Maybe that is one of the reasons for the $1000 Dante PCI-E card?
 
Jul 4, 2016 at 1:46 PM Post #945 of 3,694
.... Although since DVS can't be the master clock I wonder how that would work since Dante probably requires the clocks to by synced. Maybe that is one of the reasons for the $1000 Dante PCI-E card?


Nope, the Dante protocol appoints one of the D16s as Master clock and the real time timing protocol (called Precision Time Protocol (PTP - IEEE 1588) which defines the precise distribution of time over a network.) will distribute the clock timing packages to all the devices which will create an internal clock reference signal.

That's the strength of this AOIP protocol, it can sync all device clocks over the network by using this real time timing protocol.
Cheers
 

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