MEE Audio Pinnacle P1 - $199 Dynamic Driver Flagship *Reviews 2nd Post*
Dec 16, 2016 at 6:48 PM Post #2,296 of 3,265
WillyWill stated P1's suck with a smartphone.  Just got mine #3102 direct from Mee Audio as a 
result of reading the great comments in this forum and the fact that I have a LG V20 with
an ESS Quad Dac boasting of an ability to drive 50+ ohm impedance headphones.  
 
A few hours with this phone using PowerAmp Beta and the LG Audio player at 60% of max
convinces me this is a beautiful pairing.  The V20 compares very well with my desktop Matrix Mini i.  
I'll be able to power the P1's later with two different Fiio setups, an X-5 with an E-18 and an E-17
with an A9 amp.  I'm sure the X-5 will be adequate without using an amp.
 
My closest match to this excellent IEM is my Westone UM30.  From a listening experience standpoint,
they compare favorably with HD600's, Meze Classic 99's, and NAD Viso HP50's.  
 
For anyone on the sidelines with this purchase decision, I offer a hearty recommendation.
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 10:45 AM Post #2,297 of 3,265
Just noticed the P1 is selling on Amazon with a bundle including the FiiO Q1 for $199! (same price as the p1 alone) if anyone is interested. I have q1 and does pair well with p1, but no longer using amp for portable listening, as i use my lg v20.

Also just realized i never actually posted my REVIEW of the p1 HERE in this thread on headfi. :grin:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B01A60I4P6/ref=mw_dp_cr



Amazingly clean sound, musical and resolving...and comfortable too!
ByTim Kimzeyon June 26, 2016
Verified Purchase

What is best about the MEE Pinnacle P1 is the fact that it excels at being just right.

The FREQUENCY RESPONSE is even and flat, with no extreme exaggerations through low to mid to high ranges. Instead of thumpy bass you get tight, fast bass with little slop and rumble. Instead of shrill treble you get airy, smooth, non-fatiguing highs. And especially the midrange is not left behind almost entirely like many in-ear buds, but delivers vocals in line with the rest of the spectrum, with detail and emotion.

The SOUNDSTAGE is lush, exciting, immediately noticeable as very expansive, with amazing IMAGING from front to back and side to side. Truly immersive soundstage for a earbud, even rivaling some headphones. You hear instruments exactly in their place in the mix.

The sound is full of DETAIL and resolving, yet the perfect blend of analytical and musical. Notes are very clear and precise, yet flow well together with an organic quality, which truly makes general music listening a pleasure. There is slight warmth in the lower registers, but not enough to ever muddy, with very clean mids and highs to balance out the warmer sonics for great detail retrieval.

The P1 is probably my most comfortable earphone. It fits my ear perfectly, making me able to listen and ENJOY music for hours. This is where every earbud can never suit every ear anatomy, but for a universal it does a great job. You can also wear the wire over the ear (stays better in your ear) or hanging down. Many higher-priced IEMs are only designed to wear the wire over the ear and include memory wire to form around the top of the pinna. For me, i generally like to just put them in and go, and if i need to take them out in a hurry, or adjust, it is never a problem. With the many included tips, from silicone to foam (Comply), you should be able to find the perfect fit for a good comfortable seal (essential to any IEM).

The earbud housing itself is solid metal. It seems very durable and substantial. It may be a bit heavy, especially with the included cable, but is well-formed and comfortable. One note that i do not like about metal earbuds is that they can get quite cold in the winter though, if you are wearing them outside.

One possible negative for the P1 is the SENSITIVITY. They can require more power than the average earbud to play at their best. I havent found this to be a particular problem with my smartphone (Samsung Note3), as its op-amp sounds good and I use the PowerAmp app as my player. You can adjust the gain on this app's amp for more sound boost, increase the EQ levels, etc. Speaking of EQ, the Pinnacle is the ONLY earbud i have used that I do not need to adjust a curve to make the FR suit my desire for a clean, flat sound. I have boosted the EQ levels equally to give a bit more overall loudness to make up for the lack of sensitivity. If you use an external quality headphone amp, as i do sometimes, you do not need to worry at all about the lower sensitivity, and generally with most modern smartphones or DAPs, increasing the volume past your "normal" range works fine.

The P1 truly is a top contender in universal earbuds. It has great sound and is very comfortable to wear for long periods. It seems very well-made and should last for many years, especially with interchangeable cables should you break one or develop a bad connection with a jack. Truly the Pinnacle--for the price range--for an audiophile-quality in-ear monitor.

For a universal in-ear monitor, these are among the best-sounding i've heard. I think they are truly remarkable for their price range. The entire package is presented well, with two nice sets of connector cables. The bud uses the MMCX connector on each earbud, which can be replaced with other cables if needed. Although the included cables are great, i am using a lighter one that also has a volume control along with track button, something i wish the included cable had.
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 10:58 AM Post #2,298 of 3,265
WillyWill stated P1's suck with a smartphone.  Just got mine #3102 direct from Mee Audio as a 
result of reading the great comments in this forum and the fact that I have a LG V20 with
an ESS Quad Dac boasting of an ability to drive 50+ ohm impedance headphones.  

A few hours with this phone using PowerAmp Beta and the LG Audio player at 60% of max
convinces me this is a beautiful pairing.  The V20 compares very well with my desktop Matrix Mini i.  
I'll be able to power the P1's later with two different Fiio setups, an X-5 with an E-18 and an E-17
with an A9 amp.  I'm sure the X-5 will be adequate without using an amp.

My closest match to this excellent IEM is my Westone UM30.  From a listening experience standpoint,
they compare favorably with HD600's, Meze Classic 99's, and NAD Viso HP50's.  

For anyone on the sidelines with this purchase decision, I offer a hearty recommendation.


The P1s do not "suck" with a smartphone, but do need more adequate pairing for power. :blush:
Im using lg v20 as well, with poweramp Alpha703--great pairing, and they really shine with this smartphone.
(As discussed in the lg v10/20 threads) Note that the P1's non-control cord is needed to trigger the LG v20's "high-impedence device mode" with the quad DAC. I had been using another (not Mee) cord that also has track/volume controls on the p1, but doesnt enable that mode on v20...
Happy listening! :blush:
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 11:44 AM Post #2,299 of 3,265
If you like the way the P1 sound with the V20 that's a good thing to know but i know i won't pair the P1 with a smartphone. There are people that don't mind watching Youtube video on 720P but i have a 4k monitor so i like to keep my videos at 4k, I have a few good DAC/AMP that take the P1 to the major league and no way im going back
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 2:16 PM Post #2,301 of 3,265
It is on sale on Amazon.com now at $159,96. I would buy instantly but shipping + import fees is $97,90 for me. 
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Dec 18, 2016 at 3:14 PM Post #2,302 of 3,265
If you like the way the P1 sound with the V20 that's a good thing to know but i know i won't pair the P1 with a smartphone. There are people that don't mind watching Youtube video on 720P but i have a 4k monitor so i like to keep my videos at 4k, I have a few good DAC/AMP that take the P1 to the major league and no way im going back


@willywill, no offense was meant to you. Ive stated from the start as well that the P1 is not a sensitive iem, and sounds better with more power. But it didnt "suck" with my Note3, 7, and certainly not with the v20.
My 4-way custom built tower monitor speakers, along with a studio rack with 31 band eq, valve preamps, etc. sound "better" than the p1... But they wont fit in my pocket like the p1 and v20 will.
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 6:33 PM Post #2,303 of 3,265
@willywill, no offense was meant to you. Ive stated from the start as well that the P1 is not a sensitive iem, and sounds better with more power. But it didnt "suck" with my Note3, 7, and certainly not with the v20.
My 4-way custom built tower monitor speakers, along with a studio rack with 31 band eq, valve preamps, etc. sound "better" than the p1... But they wont fit in my pocket like the p1 and v20 will.

 
Further to that, the V20 can drive the P1 better than any other phone I have heard by a considerable margin due to the "adaptive gain" or whatever LG calls it. The V20 has tons of power when "high impedance mode" is engaged. It's a wonderful pairing for on the go, totally agree. I don't even want to take my Chord Mojo along with it because the benefits are outweighed by the added bulk. P1 + V20 is an incredible combo. My iPhone 7 could not drive them nearly as well though. 
 
-Collin-
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 6:57 PM Post #2,304 of 3,265
Almost ordered the P1 tonight but didn't go for it. I'm still a bit skeptical. I guess so many good reviews from people getting free samples always makes me wonder...

They still seem interesting tho, and price is easier than the Shure 846 I've been considering. Would be nice to get something as close as possible with better overall value.

The IE800 would have been the choice in terms of sound as I'm a sucker for soundstage and that holographic feeling approaching full size cans, but they have too many practical annoyances. People seem to like that about the P1, so who knows (I have the Havi b3 Pro1 btw and they are the kings of budget soundstage.. I'll be very surprised if the P1 can surpass them in that area)
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 7:01 PM Post #2,305 of 3,265
Almost ordered the P1 tonight but didn't go for it. I'm still a bit skeptical. I guess so many good reviews from people getting free samples always makes me wonder...

They still seem interesting tho, and price is easier than the Shure 846 I've been considering.

The IE800 would have been the choice in terms of sound as I'm a sucker for soundstage and that holographic feeling approaching full size cans, but they have too many practical annoyances.


You will never know until you order one :wink:
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 7:39 PM Post #2,306 of 3,265
Late last week I decided to treat myself to a P1 pretty much out of curiosity. I've been looking for a slightly more throw around pair of universals to go along with my customs. I read all the head-fi reviews and placed the order. They came in today.
 
1st Impressions:
- Some people mentioned excellent sub-bass. I don't know if I can get on board. Although present (I respect the extension) there just isn't much authority. With that being said, performance is still above average for this tier, albeit recessed.
- Mids and treble make up for the minor shortcomings of the lows almost immediately. Vocalists sound fantastic, as do acoustic guitars. Although highs are a bit forward, they never get shouty at all. I find that to be a trait within this price point.
- excellent imaging and the P1's general sense of space is top notch
 
 
If someone handed these to me and said nothing about the single dynamic, I would have placed them as a 3 or $400 IEM after the first listen. At the $175 I paid... money well spent.
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 8:00 PM Post #2,307 of 3,265
Almost ordered the P1 tonight but didn't go for it. I'm still a bit skeptical. I guess so many good reviews from people getting free samples always makes me wonder...

They still seem interesting tho, and price is easier than the Shure 846 I've been considering. Would be nice to get something as close as possible with better overall value.

The IE800 would have been the choice in terms of sound as I'm a sucker for soundstage and that holographic feeling approaching full size cans, but they have too many practical annoyances. People seem to like that about the P1, so who knows (I have the Havi b3 Pro1 btw and they are the kings of budget soundstage.. I'll be very surprised if the P1 can surpass them in that area)


My review unit was not free, I purchased it myself. I highly recommend the P1. Driven with an amp out of my 6+, the P1 is very good. A bit bright, but that can be EQ'd out. I tend not to use any EQ anymore, but would a bit for the P1.

I am not a paid spokesperson, and I really like the P1. My CA Novas are better, but the P1 is good, very good. Hope this helps.
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 8:03 PM Post #2,308 of 3,265
Are these an upgrade over my Titan 1?
T1 have great soundstage, detail and clarity, love the bass too. In what aspects P1 are improving,if any?

I can get them in local store for 170 USD.


I upgraded from the Titian1 to the P1. I am very happy. The P1 is a much fuller sound, with better bass. The T1 is quite good, and I still wish I had mine, but live quite happily with the P1, and my CA Novas. Check my review, where I compare the Titan v P1.

Hope this helps.
 
Dec 20, 2016 at 5:27 AM Post #2,309 of 3,265
My review unit was not free, I purchased it myself. I highly recommend the P1. Driven with an amp out of my 6+, the P1 is very good. A bit bright, but that can be EQ'd out. I tend not to use any EQ anymore, but would a bit for the P1.

I am not a paid spokesperson, and I really like the P1. My CA Novas are better, but the P1 is good, very good. Hope this helps.


Thanks for sharing,those are good impressions.

I've realized that my main issue with IEMs is that I don't use them all that much. Never at home or commuting, so my use case is at work. Which is around 8h so perhaps it can justify something good (although I keep having to stop/remove when people talk to me)

Budget is a bit flexible for this one, but truth is that I'm not all that unhappy with the Havi. Soundstage is great, bass and mids perfectly acceptable, but I'd rather have a brighter sound. They also don't excel in detail/resolution, which makes them feel even a bit darker.

Sounds like the P1 might be a good frugal replacement. I wouldn't want to lose that wide sense of space the Havi deliver tho. That's the main question now.
 
Dec 20, 2016 at 9:10 AM Post #2,310 of 3,265
Well I decided to go for it. Paid full retail (200e) but there's a comforting 30 day return window, so little risk.
 
Still skeptical, but I'm attracted by the comments about the mids and overall bright sound (which I usually enjoy) and mainly those about soundstage/space and positioning/separation (the last two being weak points in the IEMs I currently use). Not too expensive, but also not cheap, so lets see how they perform. The brand isn't all that strong yet, so resale value might be a bit below average.
 
Definitely going to check them out with the JVC Spiral Dots first. They're usual great.
 

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