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Fostex x Massdrop TH-X00 Review
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:43 PM Post #466 of 12,086
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Nov 27, 2015 at 2:44 PM Post #469 of 12,086
humblesquad said:
   
 
Hmm... that's not a good news for me... So TH-X00 is not so "awesome" for home users who have a decent amp and don't care about sound leakage?
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This is all subjective... 
 
They are saying its close in performance to the th600 and th900, some even say its better than the th900. Those that are making it comparable to the hd650 have amazing amps to drive it that far. If you have one of those amps then chances are that you aren't even using the hd650 as a main, and just want this to have fun with.
 
I really doubt the hd650 will better the thx00 on a mid fi set up (what most of us have)
I place the hd650 on speedball and crack above all of the mid-fi gear I have had so far but without that it wasn't the case.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:47 PM Post #470 of 12,086
Smart move. I've been wanting to try the fostex sound for some time, so this seemed like the ideal opportunity. I am also hoping for a hd650 or hd800 sale, fingers crossed.

inseconds99 said:
Hype train is real on this product, I almost fell into it myself and I already own a TH-900. My better judgement won out and I didn't buy them. If needed I could adjust the sound of my TH900 with a lawton mod or a shelf liner install if needed and save myself $400. My want for MOAR toys almost got the best of me. Gonna save for the next Fidelio X2 or HD650 sale.
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Nov 27, 2015 at 2:50 PM Post #471 of 12,086
humblesquad said:
Hmm... that's not a good news for me... So TH-X00 is not so "awesome" for home users who have a decent amp and don't care about sound leakage?
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My preferences might not reflect yours.

I have the JVC HA-DX2000 for bassy songs, classical and jazz. The HD650 for everything but bassy songs.The Nighthawk for jazz.

The TH-X00 doesn't fill a slot I don't have filled. It still has slightly more treble than I prefer when using Audeze or HM5 pads (the HD650 being about the most treble I enjoy).

They actually are quite awesome if you want an exciting headphone without as much treble as the TH600/900/Denons.

I already have that slot filled by a much more expensive headphone that has better isolation (JVC HP-DX1000/HA-DX2000) and larger earpads for my tall ears.

These are an awesome deal. I really enjoy the other Fostex headphones but they're too bright. The TH-X00 only induces fatigue in my very treble-sensitive ears with aftermarket pads.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM Post #472 of 12,086
grizzlybeast said:
  This is all subjective... 
 
They are saying its close in performance to the th600 and th900, some even say its better than the th900. Those that are making it comparable to the hd650 have amazing amps to drive it that far. If you have one of those amps then chances are that you aren't even using the hd650 as a main, and just want this to have fun with.
 
I really doubt the hd650 will better the thx00 on a mid fi set up (what most of us have)
I place the hd650 on speedball and crack above all of the mid-fi gear I have had so far but without that it wasn't the case.
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I agree, and this is exactly why I'm firmly on the fence now. The HD 650 on the Crack/Speedball could damn near be endgame for many people. The TH-X00 would be a fun "side-headphone" for me, but I'll also never use it as a portable. But knowing that it's at least on the level of a well driven HD 650 isn't making me as excited as I was when I saw the drop hit this morning.
 
I may still cancel while there's still time...Grizzly you may get one step closer to your 0001 edition :wink:
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM Post #473 of 12,086
I dropped in on these because I wanted the Denon D5000 or 7000's before I got my LCD 2.2's years ago, circa their discontinuation.
 
Fostex was always on my radar, but I had forgotten that they were the one who made those Denons.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:56 PM Post #474 of 12,086
luckbad said:
My preferences might not reflect yours.

I have the JVC HA-DX2000 for bassy songs, classical and jazz. The HD650 for everything but bassy songs.The Nighthawk for jazz.

The TH-X00 doesn't fill a slot I don't have filled. It still has slightly more treble than I prefer when using Audeze or HM5 pads (the HD650 being about the most treble I enjoy).

They actually are quite awesome if you want an exciting headphone without as much treble as the TH600/900/Denons.

I already have that slot filled by a much more expensive headphone that has better isolation (JVC HP-DX1000/HA-DX2000) and larger earpads for my tall ears.

These are an awesome deal. I really enjoy the other Fostex headphones but they're too bright. The TH-X00 only induces fatigue in my very treble-sensitive ears with aftermarket pads.
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You seem to have tastes very similar to mine. I had the JVC DX700 and loved it bass, and SUPER tripped out spatial cues that were down right magical however it wasn't transparent enough like the hd650 is. I love bass... Do the pads you put on the THX00 increase the bass any? I plan on pad rolling quite a bit and find the hd650 treble actually ideal. I never understood the" VEIL"
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:56 PM Post #475 of 12,086
kali77 said:
Smart move. I've been wanting to try the fostex sound for some time, so this seemed like the ideal opportunity. I am also hoping for a hd650 or hd800 sale, fingers crossed.

 
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Loved my HD800's and my 650's when I had them, I actually traded the 800's a few weeks ago for these TH900's. I love the TH900s as well but they do cause some fatigue when wearing them. I was planning on selling them but now this hype train is going nuts and there is little to no chance of that happening anytime soon so I'll probably just hang on to them and mod them slightly. Really want the hd800s when they come out as well, I look at this non purchase as $400 towards the HD800s.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM Post #476 of 12,086
grizzlybeast said:
This is all subjective... 

They are saying its close in performance to the th600 and th900, some even say its better than the th900. Those that are making it comparable to the hd650 have amazing amps to drive it that far. If you have one of those amps then chances are that you aren't even using the hd650 as a main, and just want this to have fun with.

I really doubt the hd650 will better the thx00 on a mid fi set up (what most of us have)
I place the hd650 on speedball and crack above all of the mid-fi gear I have had so far but without that it wasn't the case.
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The bolded portion is actually very important.

I have a $2000 dac/amp. jude likely runs something even more ridiculous.

The Fostex TH-X00 is better than the Sennheiser HD650 out of my phone, my motherboard, and my Emotiva Big Ego. It's not better out of the Audio-GD Master-11.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM Post #477 of 12,086
inseconds99 said:
  Hype train is real on this product, I almost fell into it myself and I already own a TH-900. My better judgement won out and I didn't buy them. If needed I could adjust the sound of my TH900 with a lawton mod or a shelf liner install if needed and save myself $400. My want for MOAR toys almost got the best of me. Gonna save for the next Fidelio X2 or HD650 sale.
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Yep. I put in my order at 9:01 am in the morning. Started thinking a lot about it and then cancelled it. I already own the TH-900 and don't need it. The earpads are what really made the decision for me. I have a little bigger than average ears and those earpads looked really small. Changing the earpads will definitely change the sound so it was a no go for me.
 
Just curious but why do you want a Fidelio X2 or a HD650? I currently have the X2's still and had the HD650 for a long time. The X2's imo a better package than the HD650. Using the TH-900 is more satisfying than either of those. They both are really good headphones however.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 2:59 PM Post #478 of 12,086
tomatoshoe said:
   
Yep. I put in my order at 9:01 am in the morning. Started thinking a lot about it and then cancelled it. I already own the TH-900 and don't need it. The earpads are what really made the decision for me. I have a little bigger than average ears and those earpads looked really small. Changing the earpads will definitely change the sound so it was a no go for me.
 
Just curious but why do you want a Fidelio X2 or a HD650? I currently have the X2's still and had the HD650 for a long time. The X2's imo a better package than the HD650. Using the TH-900 is more satisfying than either of those. They both are really good headphones however.
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I've owned the X2 and the 650's before and liked them a lot. 650s for smooth long listening sessions and X2's for great gaming with my vmoda boompro mic.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 3:01 PM Post #479 of 12,086
You hit the nail on the head, Luckbad - the TH-X00 are an awesome deal.

No matter the comparisons, people are going to like it more than "insert headphone here" or will not like it compared to "insert headphone here". The fact that it is $399, is compelling no matter what headphone you own (including if a person is a TH-600 and/or TH-900 owner) - because it's versatile and exudes excellent sound for the price. If the purchaser doesn't like it, gift or sell it and move on. This is one of the easiest recommendations that I've ever made as an audio enthusiast - and I can see the world is listening to the collective effort of Massdrop, members of Head-Fi, etcetera because Fostex x Massdrop's TH-X00s currently are at over 1000 orders in just a few hours - simply remarkable.
 
Nov 27, 2015 at 3:05 PM Post #480 of 12,086
Yeah, I got rid of my hd650's when I got my t1's and lcd-xc. Been missing them a bit lately. Depending on how these x00 are, I might sell my lcd-xc to put towards the 800s.


inseconds99 said:
Loved my HD800's and my 650's when I had them, I actually traded the 800's a few weeks ago for these TH900's. I love the TH900s as well but they do cause some fatigue when wearing them. I was planning on selling them but now this hype train is going nuts and there is little to no chance of that happening anytime soon so I'll probably just hang on to them and mod them slightly. Really want the hd800s when they come out as well, I look at this non purchase as $400 towards the HD800s.
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