Chord Mojo(1) DAC-amp ☆★►FAQ in 3rd post!◄★☆

Jan 16, 2016 at 10:13 PM Post #9,376 of 42,916
   
Thank you. I think you are right that I could try the Mojo and return it. I am just confused on that point because the Mojo is factory sealed. Amazon might have to sell it as box opened then. However I think our UK distance selling regulations mean I should be able to open and try it. I think Amazon allow for us trying stuff. I have only two weeks left to try it and make a hassle free return then.
 
It might make more sense if I explain again  why I bought a Mojo. Then why it never got opened. I bought it because I saw the review in What Hi-Fi October-ish; their Awards Issue. It seemed too good to miss and I picked one up from Amazon, with no further online searching. 'I intended to use it primarily as a desktop DAC' as I read that many people do with the Hugo.
 
During the time from when I ordered it to before it arriving I started browsing online about for the Mojo. Already being a Head-Fi member I found this thread. Then I saw the reports that users were having and how they were working around it. 'Some people reported stuff that meant it might not be practical for desktop use'. It meant that my decision to open the Mojo when it arrived was put on hold. I figured wait and see what fixes or ideas transpired. Then the issue showed up on this thread that the first second of music got missed. With no criticism of Chord, it took weeks before it was explained why. (I think it was prompted by me asking.) Once I understood why, and people assured me it was OK, that issue was resolved for me.
 
As of now the only issues that I could have using it as a desktop DAC are:
1. making a noise when charging,
2. cutting out when charging and playing.
 
The second point I think I could cure with fixing cooling to it. Therefor I think I will go ahead and try it. I had just two days ago contacted Amazon about these two concerns, explaining the Mojo is still factory sealed. I was assured if a problem arises, I will be able to return it. I was left still nervous though because I am not someone who buys online to audition. I was buying the Mojo blindly to keep, based on review. 

 
I am using the mojo as my current desktop DAC. To me it doesn't get even “warm"  after 3-4 hrs use (warm when used as mobile DAC). 
 
Mine doesn't make noise when it charges. I don’t charge it while I use it. I believe the isolation of battery operation helps with some of the sound/music factors.
 
 
MBP → SDragon → Mojo →AQ Big Sur trs →LC
 
Jan 16, 2016 at 10:19 PM Post #9,377 of 42,916
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During the time from when I ordered it to before it arriving I started browsing online about for the Mojo. Already being a Head-Fi member I found this thread. Then I saw the reports that users were having and how they were working around it. 'Some people reported stuff that meant it might not be practical for desktop use'. It meant that my decision to open the Mojo when it arrived was put on hold. I figured wait and see what fixes or ideas transpired. Then the issue showed up on this thread that the first second of music got missed. With no criticism of Chord, it took weeks before it was explained why. (I think it was prompted by me asking.) Once I understood why, and people assured me it was OK, that issue was resolved for me.
 
As of now the only issues that I could have using it as a desktop DAC are:
1. making a noise when charging,
2. cutting out when charging and playing.
 
The second point I think I could cure with fixing cooling to it. Therefor I think I will go ahead and try it. I had just two days ago contacted Amazon about these two concerns, explaining the Mojo is still factory sealed. I was assured if a problem arises, I will be able to return it. I was left still nervous though because I am not someone who buys online to audition. I was buying the Mojo blindly to keep, based on review. 

 
At home I use Mojo as a desktop constantly connected to the Apple little cube, optical in, and audio out to my NAD. It was mentioned that not a very good charger might make it whine.
My Mojo makes no noise when charging or when charging and playing.
Never experience cutting out yet, it has been just two weeks. Never experience it getting hot so it would cut off, it gets warm, but I couldn't even warm my hands with it.
For me, mobile usage is - so I can take it to work and use it with headphones during the day.
 
I think you take people opinions and experiences as true reality, it might be true, but only to them.
There is no way of knowing what it is for you without trying.
Preemptively trying to fix problems that you might not have, sound a bit over the board. Not trying to offend, just trying to push you to try since it is already in your hands.
When I got mine, I disregarded all the advices to charge it first, just opened it as fast as I could, plugged it in to see if I can experience all the positive comments about its ability to make music come alive, and it was just great!
All I'd ever wanted for a while, may be for a very long while, "cheap" Chord wasn't cheap in my neck of the woods. Sometimes I do not know what to think when a well regarded reviewers/bloggers complain how expensive Apple devices are and jump right in into reviewing a $3K headphones or $15K speakers, not to mention Chord Dave, like it is something everyone can afford. Well, I'm glad I got to the point of convincing myself that I'll try Mojo and if not like it, take a loss and sell it.
 
I have no intent to part with it, it is my precious. Well recorded music through Mojo is audio bliss. Not well recorded, oh well, just stays in that "not well recored" domain, no Mojo's fault.
 
Try it, you might get lucky, like I did, and like it. Like it a lot.
 
Jan 16, 2016 at 10:22 PM Post #9,378 of 42,916
I found the charging noise is only present when charging with the Mojo off, and only audible when right next to my ear. Turn it on and the noise goes away. I get the same thing from other battery chargers for other devices (not audio related).

Also, pretty much all electronics that use the case to dissipate heat run warm, some may even feel it as 'hot', but, as Chord has said, even a hot cup of tea is only around 60° C. I would trust Chord to be able to appropriately deal with the thermals.
 
Jan 16, 2016 at 11:41 PM Post #9,380 of 42,916
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  4. x RELIC x
 
Thank you all. I guess I will try later on Sunday as it's 4.33am here in the UK.
 
I think the Mojo is cute too; (adorable). It's size as with the Hugo is desktop perfect. I genuinely didn't expect to see four members post in a row that their Mojo charges silently.
 
I also think I would struggle to wait ten hours for it to charge first time. I wondered if that was for battery conditioning. Whereas used straight from the box charging and playing, it's still going to see a full length charge.
 
I totally completely and absolutely understand why folk love the Mojo, from what I read in pro-reviews, and impressions. I feel re-enthusiastic, and grateful to each of you.
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 12:17 AM Post #9,381 of 42,916
 
  1. AudioBear
  2. wym2
  3. bikutoru
  4. x RELIC x
 
Thank you all. I guess I will try later on Sunday as it's 4.33am here in the UK.
 
I think the Mojo is cute too; (adorable). It's size as with the Hugo is desktop perfect. I genuinely didn't expect to see four members post in a row that their Mojo charges silently.
 
I also think I would struggle to wait ten hours for it to charge first time. I wondered if that was for battery conditioning. Whereas used straight from the box charging and playing, it's still going to see a full length charge.
 
I totally completely and absolutely understand why folk love the Mojo, from what I read in pro-reviews, and impressions. I feel re-enthusiastic, and grateful to each of you.

 
Don't think 10hrs.
 
Plug it in now and charge it till the light below the charge port goes off...I don't believe it will take 10hrs if the charge port is at least 1 amp. Then enjoy your music.
 
 
MBP → SDragon → Mojo →AQ Big Sur trs →LC
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 1:43 AM Post #9,384 of 42,916
  Will the ak100 act as transport bypassing the internal dac and amp if I pair it with the mojo? 
Is so what kind of connector is needed? 
Just a 3.5mm to 3.5mm interconnect? 

 
Most use this I believe.
 
http://www.sysconcept.ca/product_info.php?products_id=349&osCsid=h3rcdr6jutf2tnngjd7vqafnb2
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 1:45 AM Post #9,385 of 42,916
ah I see sorry!


Please no worries!
However, iwas wondering if you could answer, the Mojo on line level mode - does this still run thru the Mojo's amp? from how i understand your earlier descriptions, buth the amping and DAC is done in the FPGA?
thus there is no way to truly use it as a dac without double amping?
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 1:53 AM Post #9,386 of 42,916
Will the ak100 act as transport bypassing the internal dac and amp if I pair it with the mojo? 
Is so what kind of connector is needed? 
Just a 3.5mm to 3.5mm interconnect? 

Most computer optical cables will work but they tend to be a bit long at 3 feet. I got mine at about 6" from e-earphone in Japan for $12
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 1:56 AM Post #9,387 of 42,916
Last i checked monoprice has very nice and short optical cables.
The beauty of digital calbes like optical audio or USB is no matter the costruction of the cable, as long as 1s and 0s  gets from one end to the other properly a $1 cable sounds s good as a $500 cable!
I stocked up on cables over the last couple years from monoprice, prbobably 500-600 in cables, but i never lack any kind of cable i might need.
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 2:09 AM Post #9,389 of 42,916
Please no worries!
However, iwas wondering if you could answer, the Mojo on line level mode - does this still run thru the Mojo's amp? from how i understand your earlier descriptions, buth the amping and DAC is done in the FPGA?
thus there is no way to truly use it as a dac without double amping?
how to double amp when there is no amp in the mojo?
 
Jan 17, 2016 at 2:11 AM Post #9,390 of 42,916
Please no worries!
However, iwas wondering if you could answer, the Mojo on line level mode - does this still run thru the Mojo's amp? from how i understand your earlier descriptions, buth the amping and DAC is done in the FPGA?
thus there is no way to truly use it as a dac without double amping?


The Mojo is always on line level mode. The setting that you get when holding both volume buttons on power on is just a shortcut to 3V output, nothing fundamentally changes or is bypassed. Think of the MoJo's headphone output as being full time variable line out from the DAC. Much cleaner with less distortion than using a seperate amp like in most setups.
 

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