[Lorspeaker]

ermm....greysmokeytubes are better of cos.
 
wait for a 2ndhand pair...then pick it up for a whirl...u have to...one day. ya Lotto

 

[UntilThen]

  ermm....greysmokeytubes are better of cos.
 
wait for a 2ndhand pair...then pick it up for a whirl...u have to...one day. ya Lotto

@hypnos1 has a pair. Since he's done with tube rolling, he might sell to me for $5...... 

 Ok I'll be generous ... I'll pay him $50... how's that?

 

[Lorspeaker]

he 's a great guy..... "mon ami mon ami mon ami"   he kept chanting..
 
u can listen to them for $1 / hour / tube

 

[UntilThen]

EL3N and 5998   15/10
 
Alright folks this is it. This is the benchmark of all benchmarks. This is the culmination of a year's worth of tube rolling on Elise. Blame @Lord Raven  for sleeping 6 months without upgrading his tubes.
 
Let me warm up my verbal gymnastics. This needs a proper write up. It is after all the best driver and best power tubes on the planet. Never mind @hypnos1 's GEC 6AS7G. That's out of reach for most of us. So it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
 
EL3N:- I've said before. My one word to describe this is ENERGY. JV's description is ORGANIC. I can't remember H1's description 

 Well he has more than one word. Quite a lot to be precise. This tube sounds great across the whole frequency spectrum. High notes are not a problem. Midrange is child's play. Bass ...are you kidding me? This is bass king...much better than ECC31. In a word, the tube does the whole FR well and presents to you as a musical masterpiece. Not only that, it's equally adapt at the role of power as it is in the role of a driver. Take your pick, EL3N is everything to everybody. Question is, do we have enough of this tube to last 10 years?
 
5998:- This power tube has been described countless times by just about every tube rollers. About 5998 times is not too far off the mark. Surprisingly this power tube also excels in the whole FR presentation. Most people will tell you they hear the bass first but that is so inaccurate. There's has never been a more sweeter tube for vocals. Midrange is it's fiefdom.Treble is it's playground. Take it anyway, the 1st listen of this power tube will be one of astonishment. The sonic qualities of this power tube is as good as it is expensive. So please don't buy up the stocks completely.
 
So what happens when you combine the EL3N and the 5998. Well for a start, 2 worlds collide, sparks fly everywhere and you experience a deep awakening. Decades old pent up energies are released and as the tubes warm up, the 1st listen is nothing short of breath taking....but then this word has been used so many times, it's lost much of it's meaning. Truth is this combo is the bringer of wars, mars, love, peace, tranquility and ultimately a state of Zen. You've finally arrived and attain audio nirvana. Congrats, you deserve it.
 
Oh one other thing. This combo works exceptionally well with HD650, HE560 and the venerable T1...... as well as <insert your headphones here>.
 
Cheers happy listening. 

 

 

[hypnos1]

  he 's a great guy..... "mon ami mon ami mon ami"   he kept chanting..
 
u can listen to them for $1 / hour / tube

 
Hi L....mon ami! (do I have favourites?...yes!...all fellow Elise owners, to be sure, lol!...and a good few more besides!...

...but I have to admit to getting just a tad impatient at your delay in becoming "one of us"!!!

...c'mon...MON AMI, MON AMI!!!

).
 
ps. The EL3N trounces the PsVanes, alas...shame, 'cos I love the look of those PsVs lol! (Haven't tried them as powers in the Elise though!).
 

  EL3N and 5998   15/10
 
Alright folks this is it. This is the benchmark of all benchmarks. This is the culmination of a year's worth of tube rolling on Elise. Blame @Lord Raven  for sleeping 6 months without upgrading his tubes.
 
Let me warm up my verbal gymnastics. This needs a proper write up. It is after all the best driver and best power tubes on the planet. Never mind @hypnos1 's GEC 6AS7G. That's out of reach for most of us. So it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
 
EL3N:- I've said before. My one word to describe this is ENERGY. JV's description is ORGANIC. I can't remember H1's description 

 Well he has more than one word. Quite a lot to be precise. This tube sounds great across the whole frequency spectrum. High notes are not a problem. Midrange is child's play. Bass ...are you kidding me? This is bass king...much better than ECC31. In a word, the tube does the whole FR well and presents to you as a musical masterpiece. Not only that, it's equally adapt at the role of power as it is in the role of a driver. Take your pick, EL3N is everything to everybody. Question is, do we have enough of this tube to last 10 years?
 
5998:- This power tube has been described countless times by just about every tube rollers. About 5998 times is not too far off the mark. Surprisingly this power tube also excels in the whole FR presentation. Most people will tell you they hear the bass first but that is so inaccurate. There's has never been a more sweeter tube for vocals. Midrange is it's fiefdom.Treble is it's playground. Take it anyway, the 1st listen of this power tube will be one of astonishment. The sonic qualities of this power tube is as good as it is expensive. So please don't buy up the stocks completely.
 
So what happens when you combine the EL3N and the 5998. Well for a start, 2 worlds collide, sparks fly everywhere and you experience a deep awakening. Decades old pent up energies are released and as the tubes warm up, the 1st listen is nothing short of breath taking....but then this word has been used so many times, it's lost much of it's meaning. Truth is this combo is the bringer of wars, mars, love, peace, tranquility and ultimately a state of Zen. You've finally arrived and attain audio nirvana. Congrats, you deserve it.
 
Oh one other thing. This combo works exceptionally well with HD650, HE560 and the venerable T1...... as well as <insert your headphones here>.
 
Cheers happy listening. 

 

 
Well UT...with this (and all that's gone before!) I think this is just about all that needs to be said, lol....there surely can't be any doubt - or questions! - left in anyones' minds...or can there, lol?!!
 
HOWEVER, the down side of this (for us Elise owners, that is!) is that word is obviously spreading far and wide about this amazing tube, and yes, already the generous supply of your bargain find (Peter) is exhausted...he must be a very happy - if not bewildered! - chap indeed, lol! I can only hope that folks here took our repeated advice and got their own supply quickly!
 
Now, back to my WARNING about the EL3N as power/output tube : first, the volume level was between 11 and 12o'clock, and still below what would probably be needed with 2 in place (due to the still higher vol from the weakened GEC/Osram).
 
My first suspicion was occasional 'extra' noises that I put down to sounds in the recording I simply hadn't noticed before. Then a form of 'clipping', which I haven't encountered before, accompanied by changes in balance (over and above that due to tube vol. difference). By now I was feeling a bit uncomfortable...but then at sudden peaks in the recording - especially male voice - full-blown distorted break-up of same occurred...and that was it, I'm afraid...enough was enough!
 
And so for this to happen at below what I would regard as 'normal' listening level is, for me, a complete NO NO!!!
 
As for going double, I'm afraid I haven't the faintest clue as to what might happen...sorry...
 
ps. PsVane CV181TIIs for $50?...sorry!!...now a return ticket to Sydney and fully escorted - by you! - tour of your amazing country, and I might be tempted, lol!

....Ah well, perhaps one day I shall just pack a rucksack and tour the parts of the World I've missed so far!...trouble is, a rucksack just ain't gonna do it - what with Elise packed in there as well!!

...I need a hug, lol...

...BFN...CHEERS!

 

[TomNC]

@UT, you are a smooth copywriter.

 

[B-60]

  EL3N and 5998   15/10
 
Alright folks this is it. This is the benchmark of all benchmarks. This is the culmination of a year's worth of tube rolling on Elise. Blame @Lord Raven  for sleeping 6 months without upgrading his tubes.
 
Let me warm up my verbal gymnastics. This needs a proper write up. It is after all the best driver and best power tubes on the planet. Never mind @hypnos1 's GEC 6AS7G. That's out of reach for most of us. So it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
 
EL3N:- I've said before. My one word to describe this is ENERGY. JV's description is ORGANIC. I can't remember H1's description 

 Well he has more than one word. Quite a lot to be precise. This tube sounds great across the whole frequency spectrum. High notes are not a problem. Midrange is child's play. Bass ...are you kidding me? This is bass king...much better than ECC31. In a word, the tube does the whole FR well and presents to you as a musical masterpiece. Not only that, it's equally adapt at the role of power as it is in the role of a driver. Take your pick, EL3N is everything to everybody. Question is, do we have enough of this tube to last 10 years?
 
5998:- This power tube has been described countless times by just about every tube rollers. About 5998 times is not too far off the mark. Surprisingly this power tube also excels in the whole FR presentation. Most people will tell you they hear the bass first but that is so inaccurate. There's has never been a more sweeter tube for vocals. Midrange is it's fiefdom.Treble is it's playground. Take it anyway, the 1st listen of this power tube will be one of astonishment. The sonic qualities of this power tube is as good as it is expensive. So please don't buy up the stocks completely.
 
So what happens when you combine the EL3N and the 5998. Well for a start, 2 worlds collide, sparks fly everywhere and you experience a deep awakening. Decades old pent up energies are released and as the tubes warm up, the 1st listen is nothing short of breath taking....but then this word has been used so many times, it's lost much of it's meaning. Truth is this combo is the bringer of wars, mars, love, peace, tranquility and ultimately a state of Zen. You've finally arrived and attain audio nirvana. Congrats, you deserve it.
 
Oh one other thing. This combo works exceptionally well with HD650, HE560 and the venerable T1...... as well as <insert your headphones here>.
 
Cheers happy listening. 

 

Hi UT,
Should I grab a pair of the PhillipsEL3N's????
Did you get yours from thetubecenter?
Cheers
UPDATE :Could not wait, got my pair of EL3N's ,and I will order the adaptors later on ,I don't thing they will be in a short supply any time soon.

 

[JazzVinyl]

@UntilThen

Where is EL3N/FDD20 as powers, review?

 

[Lord Raven]

Brother, please also mention that LR is also hum free and he is going to witness another hum free Elise, to make it more clear to fellow Elise owners LOL
 
Yes, I blame myself for staying away from tube rolling for 6 months but look at me now, I got all the best combos LOL Just need the T1 and I will be set for the rest of my life
 
 
PS FDD20 with 5998 is definitely magic, I can rate it 9.8/10 as everybody else did. 
 
Edit: EL3N adapters are still riding the camel, I think I will shortly experience the 15/10 combo on my HD600 

 
Wish me luck, all the lucky ones I am depleting the 5998s now LOL
 
Quote:

 
aqsw, your final solution is to visit me and bring Elise. LR is going to witness a humphrey Elise when he comes. 
 
One other thing, you have to get to love the T1 especially coming from a LCD2.2.  If you're like me, going from one extreme to the other, you'll gradually love the T1. T1.2 will obviously give you a tone closer to LCD2.2, especially with warm sounding tubes.
 
Which ever way, cure the distortion first and you're be in sonic heaven.

 

[UntilThen]

  he 's a great guy..... "mon ami mon ami mon ami"   he kept chanting..
 

 
Obi Wan Kenobi?
 

   
Well UT...with this (and all that's gone before!) I think this is just about all that needs to be said, lol....there surely can't be any doubt - or questions! - left in anyones' minds...or can there, lol?!!
 

 
But we've just started .... there's lots more to be said ... 

 

@UT, you are a smooth copywriter.

 
I've been called typewriter, speechwriter, playmaker, bookkeeper, grammy awards winner but I'll accept copywriter as well. 

 

@UntilThen

Where is EL3N/FDD20 as powers, review?

 
It's baking at the moment. I need you to start on the draft first. I'll fill in the blanks...and I don't expect any blanks from you. Seriously JV, that is your undertaking. We'll all eagerly await.  

 

  Hi UT,
Should I grab a pair of the PhillipsEL3N's????
Did you get yours from thetubecenter?
Cheers
UPDATE :Could not wait, got my pair of EL3N's ,and I will order the adaptors later on ,I don't thing they will be in a short supply any time soon.

 
@B-60 you get it from anywhere, as long as it says EL3N, has a band of red and penguin paddles feet because as soon as more reviews gets out, this commodity will be rarer than a Tasmanian Tiger.
 

Brother, please also mention that LR is also hum free and he is going to witness another hum free Elise to make it more clear to fellow Elise owners LOL

 
My oversight. I should have remembered that you use lightning rod for greater SQ. There's 2 types of hum free. The desert hum free and the down under hum free. Don't you think it's logical that to be grounded, it has to be down under? Let's face it, you don't put your ground wire up in the sky. It has to be down there. 

 

 

[puffmtd]

Mr. UT, do the 5998's require an adapter?  I notice adapters in the picture you posted.

 

[jerick70]

@UntilThen I have my T1s now.  I'm really enjoying them!  You and @Suuup were not wrong about how well they pair with the Elise.  All I can say is Amazing!  Why isn't the T1 regarded better on Head-fi?

 

[UntilThen]

  Mr. UT, do the 5998's require an adapter?  I notice adapters in the picture you posted.

5998 does not need an adapter. Those are socket savers. You can use a stack of this to make an Eiffel Tower. My main purpose in using them is to make them of proportionate height to the front drivers. 

 

[jerick70]

 
5998 does not need an adapter. Those are socket savers. You can use a stack of this to make an Eiffel Tower. My main purpose in using them is to make them of proportionate height to the front drivers. 

Plus with as much tube rolling as you do UT, it will "SAVE" your Elise in the long run.

 

[jerick70]

Here is what I'm listening to this morning...  Amazing on the Elsie with the T1s.  Sounds even better on Tidal.