[lukeap69]

  Does anybody know how the 7236 compares to the Bendix 6080WB?

 
I am interested to know too.

 

[UntilThen]

   
I am interested to know too.

Bendix 6080 are as rare as hens teeth now. It's easier to compare 7236 with GEC 6080.

 

[mordy]

Far side or funny side?
 

 

Wind Farm where a forest once stood.

 

[Oskari]

I'm trying to contain my laughter here.

[VIDEO]https://youtu.be/wZnF4hfL6cU[/VIDEO]

 

[UntilThen]

Woo she can sing. I sat through the whole song.

 

[mordy]

Hi UT,
 
Here are four hens teeth (items 2 and 3):
 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.XBendix+6080.TRS0&_nkw=Bendix+6080&_sacat=0

 

[lukeap69]

 
Bendix 6080 are as rare as hens teeth now. It's easier to compare 7236 with GEC 6080.

 
Right. Have you heard the Chatham 6080WB? Not sure if these are re-branded Bendix?
 

 

[UntilThen]

  Hi UT,
 
Here are four hens teeth (items 2 and 3):
 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.XBendix+6080.TRS0&_nkw=Bendix+6080&_sacat=0

Items 1,2 and 3 but they are individual and in separate auction. 
 
These Cetron 7236 came back though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7236-Cetron-NOS-Balance-6520-5998-Tube-421A-2399-6AS7G-Buy-it-Now/172240306744?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D69cfcbaad74e4c14b0f0e118955c02b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172241681467

 

[UntilThen]

   
Right. Have you heard the Chatham 6080WB? Not sure if these are re-branded Bendix?
 

Not all Chatham 6080 are the same but yours looks like the coveted graphite plates.
 
I've seen Tung Sol label too. There's a link on Bendix 6080wb. I'll dig it out.
 
There you go. http://www.head-fi.org/t/410326/for-6as7g-tube-rollers-here/3615#post_12634863

 

[UntilThen]

So Arnold if you have the 7236, you can tell us the difference.

 

[lukeap69]

  So Arnold if you have the 7236, you can tell us the difference.

 
I was planning to buy the pair I linked earlier but decided to go for the Chatham 6080WB. I don't find much sense in getting the 7236 also unless they are a lot better than the Chatham. For my HD800 SD, I still prefer six-6BL7's. Quite a lot actually.

 

[UntilThen]

I have heard the HD800S so I know what you mean. Would certainly pair better with more neutral tones. 

 

[lukeap69]

  I have heard the HD800S so I know what you mean. Would certainly pair better with more neutral tones. 

 
The bottom slam and the bass is the best I have heard with my HD800 SD! No kidding... 
 
My friend with HD650 came few days ago to audition my Darna with his HD650. His jaw dropped...
 
 
And I ordered an HD650 the next day. 

 

 

[hypnos1]

Hi there folks...am still around, but unfortunately can't devote the same amount of time keeping up with the Ferrari pace of this thread (which I'm glad continues to be leaving most others behind, lol!

...keep up the good work...).
 
First - and most importantly - can I say how happy I am that @connieflyer is now back in the saddle after his sad loss, and how proud I am of the wonderful support and encouragement shown by you great bunch of guys here...this thread is indeed one of the best!!...(and what a contrast to another site I will expand on in a mo...).
 
Second, my apologies to all those I haven't yet thanked for your kind words re. my great fortune in persuading FA to grant my never-thought-would-happen wish - for an "Elise"!
 
And also a very warm welcome to all those who have recently received their own bundles of joy....not to mention my own joy at seeing how you are all in love with her already LOL. (The love affair becomes even more intense, I assure you!).
 
Less enjoyable was my recent savage mauling by @Oskari's a-holes at the place @DecentLevi warned us about. My own fault, I know, but I simply had to defend our position regarding "excessive" (their words) tube rolling, not to mention Elise herself...I fully understand, and appreciate, the views of those who believe no-one should veer away from the tubes specifically configured for a particular amp. But to display such bigoted prejudice and venom towards those who are prepared to push the boundaries (within reason!) - especially when at their own risk - is just totally mind-boggling, to say the least. Disagreement is one thing - Heaven knows we (inevitably) have our own - but I was somewhat unprepared for such unbelievable attitudes. However, that's by the by...such ignorance is easy to shrug off...But no-one in their right mind joins in such dubious company - 'tis a place to watch from the outside only (and which I shall be doing, simply to see how things progress there with regard to Elise...).
 
But actually, the experience has prompted me to just mention some points covered in the past - especially for those fairly new to Elisedom :
 
Firstly, although I personally am in favour of pushing boundaries with regard to tube rolling, the more we enter "Frankenstein" territory, the more we become ridiculed by many others (not all!) in the hi-fi World - not just jokers!...this is a fact, whether we choose to ignore it or not...or don't care. This, however, is everyone's freedom of choice of course.
 
Secondly - and as has been mentioned here several times recently - results from our unconventional tube experiments can vary wildly between people...and sometimes for no obvious reason at all. But usually, such variations are purely down to the differences in individual systems and/or environment...probably far more so than simple preference. The final performance of any tube is thus determined by a host of other factors, not just the particular amp in question. And so it is always a gamble as to how each of us will find a tube performing, no matter what others have found. This is something we must all be prepared to accept when joining in the rolling "madness"...for good or bad. Therefore, when/if disappointment hits us, the only reasonable, meaningful statement can be related to what our own particular system - preferably listed a,b,c,d,e, etc. - or our own particular ears, deliver. Each experience is of necessity unique (and valid for the individual), but cannot in all honesty then be made into a broader, blanket statement concerning the tube itself. This fact is sometimes lost sight of all too easily in the "passion" of our hobby. We need to be constantly on our guard...if only for the sake of continued harmony, lol!

...
 
Sorry for any indigestion caused...y'all should now get back to enjoying this wonderful amp to the full (not that you need any encouraging, I'm sure!!).
 
CHEERS to you all...and HAPPY LISTENING!
CJ

 

[connieflyer]

Having been on that site in the past, I know what you mean, they are extremely narrow minded. I had the audacity to question one of the head guru's on something I was very well versed in, and he and fellow members were outraged that I would question the guru's fact's, listened to their (crap) for a few weeks with out replying and then got back on with facts with links from expert sites, silence for a few days and then they gathered around their guru, and admonished me for linking sites and opionions  not in accord with the "accepted" info. Sometimes you can lead a horse(es asses) to water but better to leave them somewhere to die of thirst. Needless to say I am not overly welcome. I have this forum don't need the other.  This thread in particular, is very friendly and informative, when you figure the low number of Elise's out there, this thread flies.  Thanks to all. Don