ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |
Jan 13, 2016 at 10:11 AM Post #3,256 of 16,326
  Havent listened with good headphones atm, so no review yet, not even a comment on SQ.
 
My notes as of now:
 
- beautiful to look at and to hold.
- great build quality
- not a fan of the laggy volume adjustments, but then i dont change volume often once i find my sweet spot
- so many sound options to play with + EQ, love it
- slightly disappointed about amp section as on high gain with my apple earphones, im already between 115 - 122/160. So i dont think the Onkyo has the humpf to drive any difficult headphones.
 
thats all for the moment

 
 
do you find it too big with a straight plug and in the pocket? i can barely fit the pioneer in the pocket without the plug
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 10:14 AM Post #3,257 of 16,326
Totally NOT my fault :p

Btw, picked up parcel, off home (via bus grr roar)!
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Parcel is big but should mean it's equally protective!

First impression of parcel box = EXCELLENT muhahahahahahaha!

Unfortunately, yes, I got stung by customs charge, to the tune of £29.25 ($42.16 US)! :'(

Oh well, never mind.

I'll reply to previous posts as best as I can later.

 
 
you should have made a list of things test. hope you enjoy it
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 10:15 AM Post #3,258 of 16,326
My gain setting was on high by default.
Also, my volume limit was to the max during my short testing.
Apparently the EU version will be identical but if you listen to more than 20hrs at above 130 levels, the unit will shut off !!!!!

 
What makes you say that???
It shouldn't be identical as EU is the only region with regulations that cripple most audio devices...
 
That would be bad news but I don't believe it.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 11:05 AM Post #3,260 of 16,326
  if the balance out was separated from the se, i am sure a lot of users will be curious about it.

 To be fair the ZX2 plug supporting TRRS is not a fully balanced connection either you had to know they put it there to use first, kudos to @Whitigir for that!
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 11:24 AM Post #3,261 of 16,326
Just setting up my Onkyo DP-X1, adding my Google Account but only a select number of apps, downloading OTA update, charging, etc.

Will post impressions later after some food, tea, and listening to Onkyo DP-X1!

I must say that the Onkyo DP-X1 is the most beautiful piece of technology I have seen, outside my gorgeous Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus!

Here's some pics for you (in the Spoiler tag):









 
Jan 13, 2016 at 11:28 AM Post #3,263 of 16,326
Just setting up my Onkyo DP-X1, adding my Google Account but only a select number of apps, downloading OTA update, charging, etc.

Will post impressions later after some food, tea, and listening to Onkyo DP-X1!

I must say that the Onkyo DP-X1 is the most beautiful piece of technology I have seen, outside my gorgeous Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus!

Here's some pics for you (in the Spoiler tag):










Dat black magnetic box...I must confess at first I don't know how to open it lol Maybe I'm too familiar with Chinese DAP package...
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 11:59 AM Post #3,265 of 16,326
So, given that my Onkyo will arrive tomorrow, and that I have zero Android experience would any of you kind souls tell me what tasks I need to do in order to get up and running? Ideally I would shut off everything non-music related at first, and I believe there is a mode that essentially shuts down WiFi, Bluetooth and other OS activities. Short of doing that, what applications are installed that are CPU and or memory intensive, run on start-up of Android and are not very useful. As well, with WiFi on at first will the Onkyo prompt me to run the update, or do I need to manually check for it? Thanks in advance, and sorry for looking for a free lunch. I promise once I have some Android skills I'll pay it forward!
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 12:03 PM Post #3,266 of 16,326
Ah yes indeed. In the background j can hear the parasite sound...

Which app are you using?
 
What confuses me is that the distortion originally reported by @earfonia was evident with UAPP. Now UAPP uses native Android audio, unless it is interfaced to an external DAC, in which case it has the ability to bypass native Android.
 
If, as has been suggested, the DP-X1 'grabs' anything that is being directed via Android and routes it through its Sabre DAC, I don't understand why there is a problem with UAPP.
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM Post #3,268 of 16,326
I'm sorry I've not replied to any messages direct.

I thank all those who quoted me, enjoyed my posts and ramblings, and asked for advice.

At the moment I am listening to David Bowie's 'Blackstar' at 24 bit/96 kHz using my unbalanced/SE AKG K 712 headphones in high gain mode (from Settings > Sound & notification > Gain setting > High), no up sampling, Digital Filter: Sharp, Lock Range Adjust: Normal, volume set between 144 - 148.
Unit does get warm but not hot during use.

The player is not as powerful as my CEntrance HiFi-M8 (the AKG K 712 are hungry hippos...), but the music is so effortlessly, airy, detailed, huge soundstage, great depth, unsure on width (hey just got it...), ORGANIC.
This is something else.
I'm not OTG this to my CEntrance as I'll lose a lot of the above, I'm sacrificing power because this beautiful slab of metal and glass is insane.
These are just initial impressions, hardly anytime with my DP-X1 (haven't applied the DPA-GL033 tempered glass screen protector yet!), so I'll need time.

Even so, I have been tearing up with wet cheeks at how lovely the music is, how amazing Bowie is. I'll let you take from that my first sonic impression as you will :')
Listening to Lazarus...I'm connecting to music anew...

I'm in aural bliss right now, brb, but enjoy the pics:



 
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:05 PM Post #3,269 of 16,326
Anyone know how can I buy this cover from Amazon Japan? http://www.amazon.co.jp/バンナイズ-VanNuys-ONKYO-Pioneer-XDP-100R/dp/B018RXI1PM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1452680750&sr=8-3&keywords=onkyo+dp-x1


Kaneda emailed me when I asked him.

The Van Nuys VD-280-00 DP-X1/XDP-100R Carrying Case will take about a month to ship according to Kaneda (at the time I enquired, around the 3rd).
He quoted me $94 on it's own or $60 with the DP-X1.

I decided to stick to the official DPA-PUX1 leather case for the DP-X1 instead, receiving when it's released (around the 22nd, again according to Kaneda).
 
Jan 13, 2016 at 1:06 PM Post #3,270 of 16,326
It's in the manual
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I believe you're referring to this in the manual :
 
Volume settings (Only for countries/areas complying with European Directives)
A warning is displayed when the volume level exceeds 130. Check the message and tap "OK".
When the volume level is 130 or over and the elapsed play time exceeds 20 hours, a message is displayed and this unit shuts down. (The elapsed play time is reset when the unit shuts down.) 




 

 
It does not mean EU and international units are identical, volume limitation in EU means different volume table.
 
 
what should gain setting be for earphones, high medium low?
 

 
Usually IEMs depending on impedance and sensitivity would need low to normal, headphones between normal and high for higher impedance
 

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