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Me too....I was tempted to order one from Amazon U.K. ( but the price went back up today. ) If I read any feedback, that it's as good as, ( or very close ) to the ZX2, I think i'll be tempted to pull the trigger....

Should be very close ? Improved circuit board, improved gaps fillings, improved ground chassis, improved capacitors but uses only 4 vs ZX2 which has 7. It is a direct successor of ZX1 but staying under the flagship ZX2 with ZX2 inspirations onto it.
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Originally Posted by Whitigir View Post
Should be very close ? Improved circuit board, improved gaps fillings, improved ground chassis, improved capacitors but uses only 4 vs ZX2 which has 7. It is a direct successor of ZX1 but staying under the flagship ZX2 with ZX2 inspirations onto it.

@Whitigiris a bit not doing the math MATH zx2 may have 7 but of 47 uF (or nF who knows i forgot the article) and zx100 has 4 of 100 again forgot the units if uF or nF (F = farad) however don't know if 47 xF does a huge difference  vs 100 xF

 

Interms of HARDWARE i wouldn't call the ZX2 "more advanced" than zx100... zx2 uses the same board substrate as A10 walkman, zx100 was developed from scratch, the different uF ratings... just because the TRRs?... take that away and compare them with TRS as usual headphones


Edited by gerelmx1986 - 10/22/15 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by gerelmx1986 View Post

@Whitigir
is a bit not doing the math MATH zx2 may have 7 but of 47 uF (or nF who knows i forgot the article) and zx100 has 4 of 100 again forgot the units if uF or nF (F = farad) however don't know if 47 xF does a huge difference  vs 100 xF

Interms of HARDWARE i wouldn't call the ZX2 "more advanced" than zx100... zx2 uses the same board substrate as A10 walkman, zx100 was developed from scratch, the different uF ratings... just because the TRRs?... take that away and compare them with TRS as usual headphones

Let's put the math a side. Here is my question to you. When you are listening to a drummer. There are 2 set of drums, one is with 4 drums, and another one is with 7 drums. Which one do you prefer to listen to ?

Next question, if I gave you an equalizer, one is with 4 bands, and another is with 7 bands....which one do you prefer ?

Ofcourse, Capacity and or power output is a whole other thing. The quality of the sound produced is the thing that people most chased after biggrin.gif isn't it.

The reason why I gave out those example is because of Class D design. You can google it to read further wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Whitigir View Post


Should be very close ? Improved circuit board, improved gaps fillings, improved ground chassis, improved capacitors but uses only 4 vs ZX2 which has 7. It is a direct successor of ZX1 but staying under the flagship ZX2 with ZX2 inspirations onto it.

 

closer to the zx2 than the zx1 in terms of overall feel. the soundstage of my zx100 opens up to my surprise due to burn-in and leaves not much of a gap behind the zx2 demo unit, but depth is not quite there. imaging is more natural after burn-in, but not as 3d and does not form that "body". most noticeable difference that makes is in the bass, if you have heard the zx2 and have compared it with others you know what i mean. zx100 does not have that in its sound but still has nice texture and extension. the mid is leaner(of course) with a slightly "sweet" colouration for vocals(is that warmth), while the zx2 sounds more neutral. the zx2 is a lot darker and still provides a same level of transparency(don't quote me on that, cause the brighter sound of zx100 can bias my inferior hearings). the treble for me is better than the zx2. zx2 is smoother in the treble and the "thick" sound of it makes the treble quite strange that i have not experienced before, so i cannot describe it.(it makes the outline not as sharp as i would like it to be)

 

from the performance of zx100 after burn-in, it holds up quite good for its price. the only attraction for me in the zx2 now is the trrs connection and the above comparison is all in single ended config. but i am also looking at the x7 if i want to play with the balance mode.

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Originally Posted by Whitigir View Post
Let's put the math a side. Here is my question to you. When you are listening to a drummer. There are 2 set of drums, one is with 4 drums, and another one is with 7 drums. Which one do you prefer to listen to ?

Next question, if I gave you an equalizer, one is with 4 bands, and another is with 7 bands....which one do you prefer ?

Ofcourse, Capacity and or power output is a whole other thing. The quality of the sound produced is the thing that people most chased after biggrin.gif isn't it.

The reason why I gave out those example is because of Class D design. You can google it to read further wink.gif

Not familir wih drums LOL but harpsichords often have 1 to 4 sets of strings... 2', 4', 8' 16' (rarer cembalos do exist with a 16 foot register), which one i would chose... :biggrin: depends on the performance to be held, if chamber intimate music mabe one with 4 and 8 foot, a soloist depends of the music repertoire too Haydn often uses 2'4' and 8 foot strings but bach can go as deep as 16' lautenwerk (lute harpsichord) if orchestra then a full bodied harpsichord to be able to coouple manys ets of strings together to make it LOUD even two Harpsichordists are used in orchestrated settings being too quiet instrument (reason i ditched trevor Pinnocks recording of bach Harpsichord concerti, too quiet Harpsi... boomy orchestra)

Also organs can be small and big vurt depends on the performnace, My Lover told me if they dare to use the Big grand organ of the St. Michaelis catehdral againsta  chorus.... the chorus would be shadowed by the potent sound... reason i saw many smaller organs called choir/chamber orgels

 

And yes while bieng in hamburg with my BF i heard a big Grand organ... super loud than what i imagined... size matters :biggrin: depends on performances and tastes


Edited by gerelmx1986 - 10/22/15 at 9:58am
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Really tempting but the $700 price tag on Amazon seems really offputting.  Especially when you can get a new ZX2 for around $250 more.

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The art of composing and instruments size and number, you got it correctly, and let's not go there. However for music reproductions, it is different. It matters whether or not a device can reproduce each spectrum accurately, because all the composing art were done and recorded.....the device simply reproducing it. So the more caps, the matter. How many caps would be enough ? That will need much in depth engineering knowledge and I can't get there.

All I am trying to say is that would you take a 4 bands equalizer, or a 7 bands equalizer ? See what I am trying to say ? Output power can always be adjusted by the volume knobs.....but the built in filter can never be additionally put on smily_headphones1.gif.
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At the end of the day, I really don't think technicalities matters much, especially when a product is already launched and is available for purchase or audition. Imo the ZX2 is shoulders ahead the ZX100, and ZX100 sounds quite brighter than ZX2 which I feel is the perfect warm sounding DAP.

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At the end of the day, I really don't think technicalities matters much, especially when a product is already launched and is available for purchase or audition. Imo the ZX2 is shoulders ahead the ZX100, and ZX100 sounds quite brighter than ZX2 which I feel is the perfect warm sounding DAP.

If you have a ZX2 try to disable the sound adjustment app for better trebles and brightness.
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i did when i tried the demo unit

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i did when i tried the demo unit

You did what ? biggrin.gif Compare ZX100 to ZX2 ?
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Really tempting but the $700 price tag on Amazon seems really offputting.  Especially when you can get a new ZX2 for around $250 more.


AJ has it for 589.99

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Originally Posted by PoRidge View Post

i did when i tried the demo unit

You did what ? biggrin.gif Compare ZX100 to ZX2 ?


he referred to disabling the sound gimmicks i do the same when i got my A10 and my zx100, curiously my zx100 only ON was DSEE and my A17 has DSEE, CLEAR AUDIO+, custom EQ2 WTF??? at clearbass all the way up... recently gave the A10 a reset before selling and again the custom 2 EQ went to on with ClearBass maxed out WTF???? is mexican walkmen modded in the factory?

 

I did hear a class AB amp and class D amps thru my life... AB on the fiio x3 didn't like its warmer sound and sper narrow soundstage, Class D ipod-style sounds too digital and lifeless... sony does the class D right very detailes natural sounding music has life on sony's Class D implementation


Edited by gerelmx1986 - 10/22/15 at 10:50am
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AJ has it for 589.99


What is AJ?

post #1125 of 3592
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Originally Posted by muscular View Post
 

At the end of the day, I really don't think technicalities matters much, especially when a product is already launched and is available for purchase or audition. Imo the ZX2 is shoulders ahead the ZX100, and ZX100 sounds quite brighter than ZX2 which I feel is the perfect warm sounding DAP.

Do you have a F886, to compare to the ZX100 ?

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